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With U.S. reliant on Chinese lending, two economies deeply linked
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | 1/06/04 | BY JOHN SCHMID

Posted on 01/15/2004 9:46:34 AM PST by JohnGalt

With U.S. reliant on Chinese lending, two economies deeply linked BY JOHN SCHMID Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

WASHINGTON - (KRT) - When an American buys a house, there's a decent chance the Chinese bankrolled a chunk of the mortgage.

In fact, the People's Republic of China finances more consumer and government spending than any foreign lender other than Japan.

Beijing's central bank, the People's Bank of China, buys mortgage-backed bonds from both U.S. home-lending agencies, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, to the tune of $48.6 million on average every workday. In that way, the central bank lends its vast dollar reserves, a byproduct of China's trade surplus with the United States, to Main Street homeowners. Those funds in turn help sustain the U.S. housing boom and put money into the pockets of American consumers.

"China, in other words, not only provides U.S. consumers with cheap, high-quality goods," said Joseph Quinlan, chief market strategist in New York at Banc of America Capital Management, it also lends Americans the money to buy the goods.

China's financial relationship with the United States goes well beyond consumer loans.

China maintains an even higher credit limit with the federal government. China's reserve bank buys some $187 million in U.S. Treasury securities every business day, helping fuel the nation's record federal deficit - which in turn pays for its military expansion, its welfare programs and the economic recovery.

"We are beholden to them by our Treasuries," said former U.S. Trade Representative Carla Hills. "That worries me."

It also should worry those who want Washington to clamp down on what they see as China's unfair trade practices, Quinlan and other analysts concur. That's because the United States, as the world's largest debtor nation, cannot afford to cut off a key source of foreign capital, they say. And apart from America's financial debt to China, political and national security reasons restrain the political establishment from imposing any meaningful tariffs, quotas or duties on the Middle Kingdom.

Nevertheless, protectionist calls in Washington are growing more common and louder. Makers of televisions, textiles and furniture demand political shelter from a surge of seductively priced imports from Chinese rivals.

And as freighter loads of washing machines, DVD players and running shoes pour onto U.S. shores, all with everyday low prices, they continue to depress prices across the economy. That deflation adds to the cost pressure on American producers, who - as a group - have cut factory jobs for 40 consecutive months.

For those industries feeling squeezed the most, fighting back is tough.

A blue-chip roster of U.S.-based multinational corporations forms the main line of resistance, pressuring lawmakers to widen trade ties, not constrict them. According to the Chinese government, 400 of America's Fortune 500 companies do business in China. Most of them boast lucrative profits.

"The Chinese spend no money on lobbying," said James Sasser, a former U.S. senator from Tennessee who served as ambassador to China from 1995-99. "Their lobbying is really done by the American business community in Washington. And they don't want legislation that will adversely affect business ties."

Then there are influential figures such as Alan Greenspan, who in November used his authority as chairman of the Federal Reserve to rebuff the protectionists.

"It is imperative that creeping protectionism be thwarted and reversed," he told a conference in Washington sponsored by the free-market Cato Institute.

National security also dictates a non-confrontational tone with the People's Republic.

With so much of its attention focused on Iraq and Afghanistan, Washington needs China to put pressure on North Korea to scale back its nuclear weapons program. Washington also relies on China, which has its own nuclear arsenal, to resist offers to sell deadly arms to other regimes. And Washington must deter China from military escalation against Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory. Taiwan, which insists on independence, is a traditional ally of the United States.

"Taiwan is the one place that could bring two major superpowers into conflict with each other," said William Vocke, senior adviser to World Affairs Councils of America, which promotes international exchanges and education.

In November, however, President Bush joined Beijing in pressuring Taiwan to drop a referendum that could advance the island's autonomy movement.

Experts say the U.S. policy of wide-open trade with China seems non-negotiable.

"Every president since Nixon, after a year or two of turbulent relationship with China, always reverts back to a relationship of mutual tolerance," Sasser said.

Bill Clinton initially refused to cuddle the "Butchers of Beijing," which is how rights activists labeled Deng Xiaoping and his deputies after the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre. But Clinton reverted to a "strategic partnership" with the mainland and even cleared the way for its entry into World Trade Organization, the 146-nation body that sets international trade rules.

Then, George W. Bush ran for office calling China a "strategic competitor," twisting Clinton's phrase into more of a snarl at what his advisers identified as an emerging rival superpower.

Less than three months after Bush took office, a Chinese fighter jet collided in an air duel with a U.S. Navy spy plane as it flew along the southern coast of China. The Chinese pilot died and the Chinese government held the American crew after an emergency landing on the Chinese island of Hainan.

The precarious incident was a foreign-policy turning point for Bush. The Chinese demanded a formal apology for its pilot's death and held the American crew for 11 days. And for more than three months, the Chinese took possession of America's top-of-the-line EP-3 intelligence-gathering aircraft, which they are believed to have thoroughly inspected.

It was Bush who blinked first. The State Department issued a carefully written apology with the words "sorry" and "regret." Then, a few days later, the American ambassador followed up with a written declaration of "sincere regret."

These days, Bush treats Chinese disputes gingerly, although his cabinet issues tough-sounding rebukes to the Chinese for keeping their exchange rate pegged at a level that boosts exports.

His administration in November used velvet gloves to apply "sanctions" on Chinese textiles - even though it announced them with blustery language. The actions won't reduce imports but merely force China to negotiate the size of the next annual increase, which must be at least 7.5 percent. The measures apply only to specific import niches: brassieres, corsets, girdles, nightgowns and certain bolts of knit fabric.

Lawmakers seem relieved to settle for symbolic gestures - like China's just-announced $6 billion spending spree on American cars and aircraft. The figure made a bold headline in the government-controlled China Daily.

But the amount won't prevent another record U.S.-China trade deficit. The bilateral trade gap, which will widen to at least $125 billion in 2003 from $103 billion in 2002, is the widest between any two nations in history.

Nevertheless, Daniel Griswold, an expert on world trade at Cato, notes that total imports from China equal 1 percent of total U.S. economic output. "I see no problem with the fact that Americans spend about one penny of every dollar of our income on goods made by the one-fifth of mankind that lives in China," Griswold said.

"Same bed, different dreams" - that ancient Chinese proverb circulates in Washington to describe how the United States and China use trade policy for widely differing strategic goals.

China pursues its ascendancy as an industrial superpower, not least to feed hundreds of millions of the world's poor, and legitimize China's unelected leaders by tending a national mood of optimism. Beijing's policy-makers want to double and then redouble economic output in the next 20 years. In 50 years, they want to attain the quality of life of a First World nation.

"China's leaders view the United States as a partner of convenience, useful for its capital, technology, know-how and market," says a report by the U.S.-China Security Review Commission, a permanent body created by Congress just before China joined the WTO.

Flashy, prosperous urban China coexists with a poor, massive rural population that struggles with illiteracy, crushing poverty and a fragile banking system.

Unprofitable Mao-era state-run industries, conceived before China opened its enterprises to competition from the outside world, are laying off millions of workers and creating a new class of nonfarm jobless migrant. Old steel mills alone shed 1.2 million jobs in the past four years - even though China remains the world's biggest steel producer, government figures show.

WTO membership, which China achieved in 2001, also means agribusiness giants, subsidized by Western governments and powered with gene-altered crops, will put another generation of Chinese farmers out of work and add to the urgency to create jobs.

There's little left of the worker protections from the discarded Socialist model. China's system of unemployment benefits expired in 2003.

"Their growth is impressive, but it's not something they can take a breather on," said a U.S. trade diplomat. "It's sort of like a treadmill that they cannot stop running on."

The Chinese economy may be huge and getting bigger, but it is hardly as robust as its 20 years of galloping growth would suggest.

At the extreme end of poverty live an estimated 40 million people in the wenbao class - without water, shelter or food. "With 1.3 billion people, this is the biggest example of every problem the world has," said David Lampton, professor of China studies in Washington at the Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies.

Case in point: By some accounts, China faces a day of reckoning on the environmental damage that its breakneck expansion has wrought; even today, the air in downtown Beijing is a brown ether.

And if Beijing's leaders don't produce the jobs, they'll run into serious social unrest. President Hu Jintao, one year in office, routinely expresses worries in his speeches about the widening income gap between the vibrant cities and the mass unemployment in the rural interior.

Corruption in the provinces is said to be commonplace, cheating people out of their pensions and imposing extortionate taxes on farmers. Workers, too, are on their guard. "Legal protection of their rights and interests remains woefully absent," the China Daily conceded in November. Factory and mine accidents killed 11,449 workers in the first nine months of 2003, an increase of 9 percent, according to the national Work Safety Administration.

"I see the hype on China preceding the reality, much like the dot-com boom," said Diane Swonk, chief economist in Chicago at Bank One Corp. "People are putting money into China without thinking about it."

For all its fragilities, nothing yet has slowed this fire-breathing dragon - not the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98; not the Internet and technology crash; not synchronous global recession of 2001; and not last year's outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS.

Nor can the United States afford to have China slow down. Throughout the past downturn, which has ravaged the global economy, China has been the one major nation with stable growth.

"The mega-trend is toward greater and greater integration of the two countries, with all the dislocation and fear that is associated with this," said Robert Kapp, president of The U.S.-China Business Council.

Said Vocke of the World Affairs Councils: "Managing the relationship with China is the key foreign-policy issue for the United States for the next 50 years, at least it was pre-9-11."

Trade remains the foundation for the relationship. And the more that Americans buy China's goods with their dollars, and the more foreign investment flows into the nation, the more dollars flow into the vaults of the People's Bank of China.

If China ever announced that it would stop financing the U.S. deficit - such a move would be extreme - U.S. interest rates would rise in response just to maintain buyer interest in the debt that the Chinese had snubbed. Higher interest rates could throw the U.S. back into recession.

"While it is not presently in China's interest to use its very large dollar reserves as an economic weapon against the U.S., this possibility exists," the U.S.-China Security Review Commission report warns.

"The U.S. has the best recovery that money can buy," said the outgoing chief economist of the International Monetary Fund, Kenneth Rogoff, when he retired in September. "It's borrowing a great deal in order to sustain this very high recovery."

"We borrow money from others to buy goods that we cannot afford," Lampton said. "No politician can run for office saying that people should save more and buy less. It's easier to blame others."

Those dollars are managed behind a glittering futuristic facade on Beijing's main boulevard. Standing sentry at the glassy front portal of People's Bank are a pair of elephants - feng shui symbols of fortune.

Inside the bank, Jiao Jinpu, director of the monetary policy division, argues that America needs China's loans "because the American economy is very important to the world."

Then Jiao cracks a smile and adds: "The U.S. government uses money from China to solve America's economic problems."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: china; consumer; debt; hearts; iraqwar; minds; soccermoms; trade
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Will some supporters of the debt financed "War on Terror" care to explain what they see as the national security implications of their policy as it relates to China?

China holds enough debt to, at the least, sway an election here in the states, but do people really believe Saddam posed a greater threat than the ChiComs?

1 posted on 01/15/2004 9:46:34 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: Willie Green; ex-snook
...towards a common ground on the economic front...

In liberty,
2 posted on 01/15/2004 9:49:17 AM PST by JohnGalt (Neoconservatives: Appeasers to the Alien Invaders)
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To: JohnGalt
What do you think China's ultimate intentions are regarding the US?

They clearly want superpower status. What do you think they intend to do once they have it?
3 posted on 01/15/2004 10:17:53 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: JohnGalt
What are the Americans to do? We are not going to stop buying these inexpensive imports. Huge number of Americans are also in debt with their budgets.

I think the only solution is to keep the pressure up for Chinese to buy more American-made products. It seems like the only country that China has a trade surplus with (at lease a huge one) is US.
4 posted on 01/15/2004 10:23:08 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: adam_az
The Chicom government, like any government, needs a reason to exist, and naturally, likes to accumulate power. It is not much more complicated than that.

Since I posted a long reply to you the other day but did not hear back, can you tackle the questions I posted so I have something to work with here?
5 posted on 01/15/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by JohnGalt (Neoconservatives: Appeasers to the Alien Invaders)
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To: JohnGalt
We are beholden to them by our Treasuries," said former U.S. Trade Representative Carla Hills. "That worries me."

We are not beholden to them at all. In fact, it's the other way around -- those Treasury bills could be made worthless to the Chinese at a moment's notice.

6 posted on 01/15/2004 10:26:11 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Fishing-guy
So rather than actually support a stable currency and small government, you think the only road is try and increase trade. Fair enough.

Was it reckless in your mind to debt finance a war against a third rate dictator at the expense of increasing the power of a rival government?
7 posted on 01/15/2004 10:27:20 AM PST by JohnGalt (Neoconservatives: Appeasers to the Alien Invaders)
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To: Alberta's Child
In theory, yes, but the international currency markets would beg to differ. China could retaliate with a scheme to get oil republics to drop the dollar and begin trading in their currency.

This type of fight could go back and forth, and at the least, if timed correctly, could sway an election.
8 posted on 01/15/2004 10:29:53 AM PST by JohnGalt (Neoconservatives: Appeasers to the Alien Invaders)
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To: JohnGalt
I recently read "Unrestricted Warfare", it is a short book by two senior colonels in the PLA. It extensively dealt with economics as a weapon. It is not beyond the realm of possibilities for the Chinese to dump our notes and bonds onto the market and so deflate the credit market as to force us to pay very high rates to sell our notes and bills.
9 posted on 01/15/2004 10:30:35 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor)
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To: JohnGalt
Will some supporters of the debt financed "War on Terror" care to explain what they see as the national security implications of their policy as it relates to China?

When China goes bankrupt from subsidizing its unprofitable industries with massive loans, we're going to have to find an alternate lender.

10 posted on 01/15/2004 10:32:25 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: JohnGalt
I think our federal budget deficit is out of control, and it is going to come back to bite us.

I remember the first Bush lost his re-election, because he came across as not caring about the economy. Of course, Ross Perot also took a lot of votes from him. Ross' platform was that we needed to balance our budget before it was too late.
11 posted on 01/15/2004 10:34:15 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: reluctantwarrior
I recently read "Unrestricted Warfare", it is a short book by two senior colonels in the PLA. It extensively dealt with economics as a weapon. It is not beyond the realm of possibilities for the Chinese to dump our notes and bonds onto the market and so deflate the credit market as to force us to pay very high rates to sell our notes and bills.

1. They would be selling at a huge loss.

2. Those notes are the only source of the income they constantly need to prop up their money-losing state-sponsored industries. Imagine what would happen if 20% of the American workforce was thrown out of their jobs tomorrow morning.

It's reminiscent of the new sheriff in Blazing Saddles. "One false move and the n****r gets it!"

12 posted on 01/15/2004 10:37:21 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: JohnGalt
China could retaliate with a scheme to get oil republics to drop the dollar and begin trading in their currency.

This is something they could do anyway. In that respect, they have even less control over their finances than we do. They now have a vested interest in a strong U.S. economy.

If you owe $200,000 on your mortgage, you may think the bank has some kind of leverage over you. The reality is that it's the other way around -- they have a vested interest in seeing you employed, healthy, etc. They can certainly foreclose on your home if you stop making payments, but even then they have no interest in foreclosing on a $200,000 mortgage if the home only appraises at $100,000 after the owner left it in shambles.

13 posted on 01/15/2004 10:38:28 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: reluctantwarrior
I am more concerned about the behind the scenes compromises that shape our future that we shall never know about, just as much as I am concerned about the havoc the Chinese could hurt or just as worrisome help, a sitting US President during an election year.

14 posted on 01/15/2004 10:38:46 AM PST by JohnGalt ("the constitution as it is, the union as it was")
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To: Poohbah
they dont float the renimbi, they tax all industries for the source of the cash so I think in order to crash the US ecomony as part of a campaign to destabilize the US they would gladly lose money because Marxists don't like money except when buying trinkets for their mistresses
15 posted on 01/15/2004 10:42:12 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor)
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To: JohnGalt
I asked what you thought Chinas intentions were in regard to the US. I was hoping you could be more specific than
"The Chicom government, like any government, needs a reason to exist, and naturally, likes to accumulate power." That statement makes China sound no more dangerous than any other government, though you think they are much more dangerous. Personally, I'm suspicious of China, but on the fence as to what the ultimate fate of the Communists will be, and what the best policy would be to bring about the demise of their single party rule.

If you're referring to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052523/posts?page=144#144 then I largely agree, except for one part... There was rationale for war with Iraq, and the war was authorized by Congress multiple times. Also, I think theres a good case for ending many US military deployments, but certainly not ALL.

I didn't reply to that message initially because it was clear that on that thread, you were reducing your opponents to cardboard cutouts. It's much easier to debate some wood pulp than a human, after all. BTW, Ayn Rand was ethnically Jewish, but philisophically atheist.
16 posted on 01/15/2004 10:43:39 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: reluctantwarrior
they dont float the renimbi, they tax all industries for the source of the cash

There's only so much that taxing the industry can accomplish. If they're not making money, then they won't be able to pay the increased taxes!

so I think in order to crash the US ecomony as part of a campaign to destabilize the US they would gladly lose money because Marxists don't like money except when buying trinkets for their mistresses

Imagine pursuing a policy that puts 20% of your country's workforce out of work--specifically, the 20% concentrated around your national capitol. And it does it tomorrow.

You now have several million people who are not going to be able to afford to do things like, say, eat.

The ChiCom leadership and the mid-level bureaucrats who execute their policies may not care about money.

Unless they are stupid AND crazy, they do care about whether they're going to be breathing tomorrow. And your strategy would tend to preclude that option.

17 posted on 01/15/2004 10:47:34 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: adam_az
You know darn well what tactic you were employing no need to play coy, and I posted a long reply, which you asked for, and since I did not hear back from you, I am now leery of spending much time having a back and forth--so you got a short reply.

The Chinese government controls a lot of 'stuff' a lot more than just about any other country, hence because they are capable of doing more harm in a variety of ways over a longer period of time, to more people than the cave dwellers, I think the monetary issue, or what some see as a trade issue, is of utter importance.

So many of the Iraq Hawks have been employing a simpleton's dichotomy that requires a massive over estimation of the cave dweller threat which is how they rationalize the need to move faster with virtually no understanding of the national security issues that come with debt financing on the international market.
18 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:32 AM PST by JohnGalt (And I'm saying that men can live together without butchering one another. -Josey Wales)
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To: JohnGalt
Ping to yours. This is a gem.

"The Chinese spend no money on lobbying," said James Sasser, a former U.S. senator from Tennessee who served as ambassador to China from 1995-99. "Their lobbying is really done by the American business community in Washington. And they don't want legislation that will adversely affect business ties."

Why should patriotism be expected from American companies who refuse to salate the flag and are now corporations of the world.?

Bush was wrong to grant them most favorable trade status. When China's need for Treasuries is satisfied, then on to Wall Street to buy the public traded companies.

19 posted on 01/15/2004 10:54:05 AM PST by ex-snook (Where is the patriotism in the war on American jobs?)
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To: Poohbah
100 million Chinese are wenboa, hungry and homeless and the Chinese wouldn't care if 20 million more went without, power comes from the barrel of a gun and the PLA has the guns and is willing to kill as many as necessary. They would only do this as part of a comprehensive political and military campaign to either gain hegemony in the region or to topple a US government politically or militarily. Think power versus business interests only, they are not capitalists or nascent libertarians they are Marxists that use our consumer insanity to field better arms, period.
20 posted on 01/15/2004 10:54:44 AM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor)
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