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Reworked images reveal hot Venus
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| 1-13-03
| Dr David Whitehouse
Posted on 01/14/2004 5:25:16 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser
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To: John H K
US doesn't have a single Venus mission planned or even in the proposal stage. Clinton should go there. Tell him Venus is a hot chick.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:02:04 PM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: Central Scrutiniser
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:07:36 PM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"Pretty flat . . . Branson, MO."Dolly Parton . . . Branson, MO.
Something does not compute here. Oh yeah. The Venus theme. Never mind.
To: Central Scrutiniser
A carbon dioxide atomosphere, high temperatures and pressure. I bet diamonds are much more common on Venus than on earth.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:40:11 PM PST
by
Nateman
(Socialism first, cancer second.)
To: Fester Chugabrew
You can have Venus, I will take Branson and Dolly anyday.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:56:10 PM PST
by
TYVets
("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlein & me)
To: Central Scrutiniser
I'd still prefer it to Branson, MOBranson MO would prefer that you roast in sulfuric acid too, I'm sure.
To: Kevin Curry
Slow night eh Kevvie? No poo on Venus, must bore you.
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:08:49 PM PST
by
Central Scrutiniser
(The actress playing Anne Frank was so bad, a heckler yelled "She's in Attic!" to the guards!)
To: Central Scrutiniser
"What did they hope to achieve visiting a totally inhospitable planet 10 times? No wonder they lost the cold war.
Did they want to invade it, move to it, use it for a new gulag? What?
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:48:36 PM PST
by
JSteff
To: John H K
Resources better used somewhere else. After we own the rest of the solar system we can check it out at our leisure.
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:51:05 PM PST
by
JSteff
To: JSteff
They sent several craft to Mars as well, only one transmitted from the surface, but malfunctioned in about one minute. They did a few moon landers, including one that landed and returned soil to earth. But, they did do a few smart things, they developed very reliable manned rocket, as well as a great heavy lift rocket the Energiya. And they were smart enough to kill the Buran, the Shuttle that they didn't need.
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:58:18 PM PST
by
Central Scrutiniser
(The actress playing Anne Frank was so bad, a heckler yelled "She's in Attic!" to the guards!)
To: Kevin Curry
Branson MO is like Las Vegas, if it was run by Ned Flanders.
To: Central Scrutiniser
Cool stuff bump!
To: Lancey Howard
bttt
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posted on
01/15/2004 6:19:09 PM PST
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: ValerieUSA
Perhaps Al Gore's global warming speech would make sense on Venus. -- ValerieUSA
Venus emits 40x more light than it receives from the Sun, so, yeah, Gore's "greenhouse effect" demagoguery would work just fine. In fact, it was first applied to Venus by Carl Sagan, another partisan demagogue.
Here's a snip of something I posted to the SCF:
Venus in transit refers to the partial eclipse of the Sun by the planet Venus as seen from Earth. Because the orbit of Venus is inclined in comparison with that of the Earth, the 8 year resonance (it's about a day off) between the two planets means that eclipse cycles are about 122 years long, and usually (at least in our lifetimes) there are two separated by eight years -- then nothing more than a century.
The dustjacket has changed (probably for positioning in the market), but it's the same book. It went fast. I read the whole thing in no time, and mostly while soaking in the tub. Basically, each chapter is an anecdote from the more than three centuries of astronomical interest in these transits.
"On our departure we left two iron pillars, on which our apparatus for photographing the sun was mounted, firmly imbedded in the ground, as we had used them. Whether they will remain there until the transit of 2004, I do not know, but cannot help entertaining a sentimental wish that, when the time of that transit arrives, the phenomenon will be observed from the same station, and the pillars be found in such a condition that they can again be used." -- astronomer Simon Newcomb, regarding the 1874 transit of Venus, quoted on p 121
The last transit took place in 1882. The next one will take place in 2012. In June of 2004 the transit observations will begin in Asia, and
may be visible in western Alaska. The end of the transit will take place almost six hours later when it's high noon in Tunisia. Much of the second half of the transit will be visible in the eastern United States (weather permitting), as far west as Chicago, and (Ras'...) throughout the Florida peninsula.
Maor includes precautions for viewing on pp 163-164, and also gives an eclipse webpage (see the link in the book listing below).
Sunglasses / smoked glass isn't enough! Maor sez "a safe filter is a #14 welder's glass, available at hardware stores." Using a
camera obscura or so-called pinhole camera is the safest method, and familiar to all those whose dads used empty Charmin boxes and white meat paper to show the kids the solar eclipse in 1959.
Excellent book, and a quick read. Dunno how the Amazon reviews are, but there may be a good one up pretty soon now. :') Thanks go to the family member who gave this book to me for Christmas.
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posted on
01/16/2004 9:03:50 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Before this decade is out, send Al Gore to Venus and NOT return him safely to Earth)
To: Central Scrutiniser
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posted on
01/16/2004 9:11:44 PM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
To: John H K
A sample return mission and/or sample study mission, for the Venusian atmosphere rather than the surface, has been advocated for a while, but the Space Shuttle and International Space Station eats the NASA budget. The probe to Pluto has been off-again, on-again due to budget problems, and has been delayed so long now, there's probably no point as the atmosphere will freeze soon.
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posted on
01/16/2004 9:12:04 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(V-ger, starring in "Robots in space")
To: SunkenCiv
Why can't you be like everyone else and review John Gray's Venus and Mars book? *L*
Don't ever change.
*smooch*
To: ValerieUSA
ooh. Missed that one somehow...
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posted on
07/24/2004 2:12:53 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
To: Central Scrutiniser
>Reworked images reveal
hot Venus
To: theFIRMbss; blackdog; Central Scrutiniser; Chi-townChief; DoctorMichael; Fester Chugabrew; ...
just bumping the topic, not a ping list; here's a small selection of other FR topics on astro/science:
NOT A PING LIST, merely posted to: theFIRMbss; blackdog; Central Scrutiniser; Chi-townChief; DoctorMichael; Fester Chugabrew; Fred Hayek; gcruse; Izzy Dunne; John H K; JSteff; Kevin Curry; Lancey Howard; Mark; Monty22; martin_fierro; Nateman; NormsRevenge; nightdriver; Paleo Conservative; Pappy Smear; RightWhale; Snickersnee; TYVets; ValerieUSA
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posted on
07/24/2004 2:56:07 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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