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Mexican migrant workers oppose Bush immigration proposal
SFGate.com ^
| Tuesday, January 13, 2004
| JULIANA BARBASSA
Posted on 01/14/2004 5:35:57 AM PST by putupon
President Bush's plan to give undocumented workers temporary legal status brings back painful memories for Florentino Lararios, who spent 14 grueling years in a similar World War II-era program.
Lararios, a 77-year-old with large, rough hands that never mastered a pencil, recalls the back-breaking work picking cotton in the South, the slapped-together communal housing, the cold meals eaten in the fields, and the unwelcome prospect of going back to Mexico without a chance to become a U.S. citizen.
"If we accept, then our grandsons and great-grandsons will go through what we went through," Lararios said. "We suffered a lot."
While generally welcomed by farmers, Bush's immigration proposals face opposition from an unlikely combination that includes unions, conservatives and migrant workers like Lararios who are supposed to benefit the most.
The issue is sure to resonate far beyond the vegetable fields and orange groves that make up the heart of California's central valley. Bush considers the immigration overhaul crucial to his re-election bid as he courts the growing Hispanic vote, but the proposal faces an uncertain fate in Congress.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; hispander; illegal; immigrantlist; stoptheexcerpts
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posted on
01/14/2004 5:35:58 AM PST
by
putupon
To: putupon
BumpTTT!
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posted on
01/14/2004 5:41:01 AM PST
by
BellStar
Comment #3 Removed by Moderator
To: putupon
"It's not good. The Mexican government shouldn't let him do it," he said in Spanish, pushing his worn straw hat down against the cold wind. WAAAA. Still can't speak the language, thinks this is Mexico, and they don't mention it, but what do you want to bet about his status? I loved the other quote about how humiliating it was to work, get paid, and be expected to go home afterward. Poor baby, become a citizen then.
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posted on
01/14/2004 5:46:14 AM PST
by
doodad
To: putupon
recalls the back-breaking work picking cotton in the South, the slapped-together communal housing, the cold meals eaten in the fields,Heck,alot of southerners in those days did the same thing.My mother,for one.Back then you picked cotton from sun-up to sun-down.They didn't go home for lunch.They ate cornbread and buttermilk in the field.Something she still enjoys today,except she chooses to eat it at home:)A glass of buttermilk with crumbled up cornbread in it,eaten with a spoon of course.
They make it sound like immigrants are the only people who ever work in this country.
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posted on
01/14/2004 5:51:55 AM PST
by
quack
To: JackelopeBreeder
The former braceros say they cannot support the current president's proposal. "If they can't pay us back, then they shouldn't bring any more," Lararios said.
This Mexican understands what the President's plan will do "Bring more"!
Why is this so difficult for others to comprehend?
___________________SITUATION REPORT______________________
Twenty years ago a high school drop out could get a job in construction, trucking, or manufacturing, and still do pretty well for himself. Well enough to own a car and afford some type of housing, by the age of twenty.
One by one these jobs have been outsourced, or filled by a wage suppressing immigrant, lowering the expectation and living standard of many Americans. Such is not suppose to be the case. In raising the boat of third world nations we have sunk the boats of many average Americans. Meanwhile those that stick it out through college are finding their jobs outsourced and their options limited.
Why do you think so many people my age are enraged, we know what has happened, we know America is being stripmined, and youth who has never known anything else, raised in the fed propaganda camps, have no clue of how badly they have been robbed.
You are merely parroting the propaganda of the enemy like a good little public school student. There are not that many white collar jobs and in fact all jobs have been artificially manipulated out of the country, or by immigrants in country all due to deadly socialist government policies and freedom robbing Free Trade.
52 posted on 01/14/2004 5:15:38 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:07:19 AM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
To: putupon
The meathead should be grateful he was given a job. Mexico produces squat and what they pay is slave labor. As far as WWII goes, where is the statement that Mexico supported the NAZIS? Why can't these pigs say "Thank you"?
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:10:16 AM PST
by
Henchman
(I Hench, therefore I am!)
To: doodad
Lararios, a 77-year-old with large, rough hands that never mastered a pencil, recalls the back-breaking work picking cotton in the South, the slapped-together communal housing, the cold meals eaten in the fields, and the unwelcome prospect of going back to Mexico without a chance to become a U.S. citizen.True --- he never bothered to learn English but thought he should have been allowed to stay here. Poor baby --- communal housing? cold meals in the fields? not staying permanently? How is that so much worse than what our military men endure? These people want everything handed to them on a silver platter.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:16:15 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: quack
They didn't go home for lunch Heck no, they made how cakes if they were lucky and had the time to make a fire.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:20:23 AM PST
by
doodad
To: doodad
Argh, hoe cakes. Coworker interrupted me.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:25:00 AM PST
by
doodad
To: quack
They didn't go home for lunch.They ate cornbread and buttermilk in the field. I never saw anybody eating cornbread and buttermilk in the fields. We always were trucked to the store by the farmer who's field it was and ate potted meat, Vienna Sausage, crackers, Pepsi and moonpies.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:29:46 AM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: William Terrell
Oh,you were one of those "rich" cotton pickers :)My grandfather didn't have a truck to take them to the store.They rode in mule drawn wagons.The store was something they rarely saw.The only time they went was to get only the necessary items,like flour,sugar,etc.,,They churned their own buttermilk.When shoes fell apart,hog-rings were used to mend them.
And we think we have it rough.
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:02:54 AM PST
by
quack
To: FierceDraka
"It was humiliating," said Manuel Herrera, 75, who was a bracero from 1954 to 1960. "They rented us, got our work, then sent us back when they had no more use for us."Mind yo' tongue, serf! Yo're lucky Ah didn't come down there an' put an ID tattoo on yo' neck.
Seriously, Mexico is not, and has never been, a friend of the US. They have been seething with jealousy and resentment towards us for more than 150 years.
And now, they are trying to drive us into their own gutter by dumping their surplus impoverished illiterate population on us.
Americans are sometimes too soft-hearted for our own good. We're generous and compassionate to the point where we undermine our own self-interest because we want to be liked by everyone. And that's just one of the reasons we don't have the guts to do what needs to be done about the problem of this "soft invasion" from our southern border.
Remember, though, that we are a few people (~5% of world total, last I checked), and nobody loves us.
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:29:11 AM PST
by
FierceDraka
(Service and Glory!)
To: putupon
Deport them all!
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:30:19 AM PST
by
petercooper
(DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
To: quack
Well, I have to say the little country store was run by my uncle and was close to the cotton fields (actually, walking distance) for the picker business.
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:32:56 AM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: petercooper
Deport them all!NB4L BUMP
No Blood for Lettuce!
Click here and here for lists of crimes committed by illegal aliens
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:36:04 AM PST
by
putupon
(No Blood for Lettuce)
To: putupon
On one of our local radio stations here in San Antonio, an ''undocumented alien'' said he was troubled by the way the farmers and ranchers treat the migrants crossing the border and passing through their property on their way to fullfill jobs that the residents refuse to take. The guest responded by saying how he has documented the devastation and terror left behind by some of these aliens on the legal residents and home owners. Litter by the tons, cattle slaughtered, homes looted while the local police are almost powerless to stem the flow( if they wanted to )
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posted on
01/14/2004 7:49:36 AM PST
by
shadeaud
(Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
To: putupon
bttt
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posted on
01/14/2004 8:02:14 AM PST
by
lainde
(Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
To: seamole
"It was humiliating," said Manuel Herrera, 75, who was a bracero from 1954 to 1960. "They rented us, got our work, then sent us back when they had no more use for us." That's what happens to every one of every day at work --- when the office closes at 5pm or our shift ends, they send us back home because they have nor more use for us ---until the next day when we go back and they get our work again until they send us back home.
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posted on
01/14/2004 9:05:39 AM PST
by
FITZ
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