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Bush Plans $1.5 Billion Drive for Promotion of Marriage
The New York Times ^ | 01/14/04 | ROBERT PEAR and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 01/13/2004 8:00:06 PM PST by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 — Administration officials say they are planning an extensive election-year initiative to promote marriage, especially among low-income couples, and they are weighing whether President Bush should promote the plan next week in his State of the Union address.

For months, administration officials have worked with conservative groups on the proposal, which would provide at least $1.5 billion for training to help couples develop interpersonal skills that sustain "healthy marriages."

The officials said they believed that the measure was especially timely because they were facing pressure from conservatives eager to see the federal government defend traditional marriage, after a decision by the highest court in Massachusetts. The court ruled in November that gay couples had a right to marry under the state's Constitution.

"This is a way for the president to address the concerns of conservatives and to solidify his conservative base," a presidential adviser said.

Several conservative Christian advocacy groups are pressing Mr. Bush to go further and use the State of the Union address to champion a constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage. Leaders of these groups said they were confused by what they saw as the administration's hedging and hesitation concerning an amendment.

Administration officials said they did not know if Mr. Bush would mention the amendment, but they expressed confidence that his marriage promotion plan would please conservatives.

Ronald T. Haskins, a Republican who has previously worked on Capitol Hill and at the White House under Mr. Bush, said, "A lot of conservatives are very pleased with the healthy marriage initiative."

The proposal is the type of relatively inexpensive but politically potent initiative that appeals to White House officials at a time when they are squeezed by growing federal budget deficits.

It also plays to Mr. Bush's desire to be viewed as a "compassionate conservative," an image he sought to cultivate in his 2000 campaign. This year, administration officials said, Mr. Bush will probably visit programs trying to raise marriage rates in poor neighborhoods.

"The president loves to do that sort of thing in the inner city with black churches, and he's very good at it," a White House aide said.

In the last few years, some liberals have also expressed interest in marriage-education programs. They say a growing body of statistical evidence suggests that children fare best, financially and emotionally, in married two-parent families.

The president's proposal may not be enough, though, for some conservative groups that are pushing for a more emphatic statement from him opposing gay marriage.

"We have a hard time understanding why the reserve," said Glenn T. Stanton, a policy analyst at Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian organization. "You see him inching in the right direction. But the question for us is, why this inching? Why not just get there?"

The Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, chairman of a national group called the Traditional Values Coalition, has started an e-mail campaign urging Mr. Bush to push for an amendment opposing the legal recognition of same-sex marriage.

Other groups, like the Southern Baptist Convention and Focus on the Family, are pushing more quietly for the same thing, through contacts with White House officials, especially Karl Rove, the president's chief political aide, who has taken a personal interest in maintaining contacts with evangelical groups.

In an interview with ABC News last month, Mr. Bush was asked if he would support a constitutional amendment against gay marriage and gay civil unions.

"If necessary," he said, "I will support a constitutional amendment which would honor marriage between a man and a woman, codify that, and will — the position of this administration is that whatever legal arrangements people want to make, they're allowed to make, so long as it's embraced by the state, or does start at the state level."

Asked to cite the circumstances in which a constitutional amendment might be needed, Trent Duffy, a White House spokesman, said on Tuesday, "That is a decision the president has to make in due time."

The House of Representatives has approved a proposal to promote marriage as part of a bill to reauthorize the 1996 welfare law, but the bill is bogged down in the Senate.

Without waiting for Congress to act, the administration has retained consultants to help state and local government agencies, community organizations and religious groups develop marriage-promotion programs.

Wade F. Horn, the assistant secretary of health and human services for children and families, said: "Marriage programs do work. On average, children raised by their own parents in healthy, stable married families enjoy better physical and mental health and are less likely to be poor."

Prof. Linda J. Waite, a demographer and sociologist at the University of Chicago, compiled an abundance of evidence to support such assertions in the book "The Case for Marriage" (Doubleday, 2000). Ms. Waite, a former president of the Population Association of America, said she was a liberal Democrat, but not active in politics.

Some women's groups like the NOW Legal Defense and Education Fund oppose government programs that promote marriage. "Such programs intrude on personal privacy, may ignore the risk of domestic violence and may coerce women to marry," said Timothy J. Casey, a lawyer at the fund.

Administration officials said their goal was "healthy marriage," not marriage for its own sake.

"We know this is a sensitive area," Dr. Horn said. "We don't want to come in with a heavy hand. All services will be voluntary. We want to help couples, especially low-income couples, manage conflict in healthy ways. We know how to teach problem-solving, negotiation and listening skills. This initiative will not force anyone to get or stay married. The last thing we'd want is to increase the rate of domestic violence against women."

Under the president's proposal, federal money could be used for specific activities like advertising campaigns to publicize the value of marriage, instruction in marriage skills and mentoring programs that use married couples as role models.

Federal officials said they favored premarital education programs that focus on high school students; young adults interested in marriage; engaged couples; and unmarried couples at the moment of a child's birth, when the parents are thought to have the greatest commitment to each other.

Alan M. Hershey, a senior fellow at Mathematica Policy Research in Princeton, N.J., said his company had a $19.8 million federal contract to measure the effectiveness of such programs for unwed parents. Already, Mr. Hershey said, he is providing technical assistance to marriage-education projects in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, New Mexico and Texas.

A major purpose, he said, is to help people "communicate about money, sex, child-raising and other difficult issues that come up in their relationships."

Dr. Horn said that federal money for marriage promotion would be available only to heterosexual couples. As a federal official, he said, he is bound by a 1996 statute, the Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage for any program established by Congress. The law states, "The word `marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife."

But Dr. Horn said: "I don't have any problem with the government providing support services to gay couples under other programs. If a gay couple had a child and they were poor, they might be eligible for food stamps or cash assistance."

Sheri E. Steisel, a policy analyst at the National Conference of State Legislatures, said, "The Bush administration has raised this issue to the national level, but state legislators of both parties are interested in offering marriage education and premarital counseling to low-income couples."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004; homosexualagenda; marriage; mathematica; sotu; wadehorn
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To: Pokey78
Socialism: for every person helped, 10 persons get destituted.

Bush's plan is only going to help families get destroyed in the long run.... now if we could have a roll back on gay rights and hate crimes etc... that would do a lot for the US family...
61 posted on 01/14/2004 2:23:23 AM PST by JudgemAll
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To: Pokey78
I'll have to read up on this, but it sounds silly.

But I'll give Bush credit for FINALLY wiping out the marriage penalty in the tax code. A married couple filing jointly finally get a standard deduction equal to twice that of a single filer for the first time.

I computed my 2003 taxes compared to 2002 and my wife and I saved an additional $462 in income taxes with the increased deduction based on the 2002 code.
62 posted on 01/14/2004 2:27:46 AM PST by Fledermaus (Please Mr. Bush, don't make me a one issue voter based totally on the war on Islamic fascism.)
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To: ohioWfan
All politics...all the time.
63 posted on 01/14/2004 3:50:55 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: texasflower
My reading comprehension skills are top notch. And I suspect yours are good enough to know what he said too. That is, *if* you subtract off what you wnat it to say from what he actually said.

It's a sorry thing. The relationship improvement techniques that are now developed are good and work when taught. But they can easily be poisoned to long term negative effect. That negative poison is what that last statement "Marriage causes domestic violence" conveys.

Here -- with the poison two things happen. The break-up will be more likely yet more orderly and a lesser percentage of the chidren of the marriage will marry. Suicides will increase. IMO.

Why? Because passion makes a marriage, makes a life, and when poisoned, rather than wrestled with, rather than refined, killing passion turns life grey and labored.

64 posted on 01/14/2004 3:58:09 AM PST by bvw
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Are you sure this is not the joke of the day?
65 posted on 01/14/2004 4:00:30 AM PST by sawyer
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To: ohioWfan
Are you telling me that we had no problems when every one who wed stayed together or we just did not marry? Please do not tell me that.
66 posted on 01/14/2004 4:03:54 AM PST by sawyer
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
Only his young brother's.
67 posted on 01/14/2004 4:05:04 AM PST by sawyer
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To: Pokey78
"This is a way for the president to address the concerns of conservatives and to solidify his conservative base," a presidential adviser said.

BWAAAHAAAHAAHAHAHA

68 posted on 01/14/2004 4:10:53 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: xrp
Is he a latent liberal?
69 posted on 01/14/2004 4:11:31 AM PST by sawyer
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To: texasflower
There's another aspect of this I see, you may not. The people that seem to be throwing in with it. The social statisticians , the relationship program hawkers. An overlap to the crop of career bureaucrats, ivory towerines, beltway franchise-holders now dominating the national "eductaion" landscape. FedGov is unhealthy for many good ideas that are better nutured and grown outside the narrowing confines of the beltway.

If this goes through with any force watch how quickly those many and developing relationship building programs become robotized and neutered. Federal baronnies, pensions and sincures ... highly carcinogenic

70 posted on 01/14/2004 4:13:46 AM PST by bvw
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To: scripter
This is the only thread I will read to day as it has been so much fun. As if anyone has ever had a better laugh. By the way this is a world wild thing, divorce,where we could send our tax money is just wild to think about.
71 posted on 01/14/2004 4:20:27 AM PST by sawyer
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To: scripter
Being the President is a tough job.

I think we need a $2 billion federal study to find out how tough it is.

72 posted on 01/14/2004 4:44:25 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Sir Valentino
*SOME* things are *WORTH* spending money on, like *PRESERVING* the *SANCTITY* of marriage!!!!

Sure it is. Spend your own money. How effective do you think the federal government will be? This is the same government that lets 12 million illegals and terrorists waltz across our borders.

73 posted on 01/14/2004 4:50:33 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Pokey78
Who would have thought that we would live to see the day where the Democrats look like the party of fiscal responsibility and constraint?
74 posted on 01/14/2004 4:53:21 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Moonman62
How effective do you think the federal government will be? This is the same government that lets 12 million illegals and terrorists waltz across our borders.

Perhaps Bush will assign an illegal alien to do "the work that your American husband or wife won't do".

75 posted on 01/14/2004 4:54:46 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Too funny. I wish I'd thought of that.
76 posted on 01/14/2004 5:01:34 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Mulder
I'm not stupid, thank you.
77 posted on 01/14/2004 6:42:57 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality - my tagline is unchanged)
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To: Hank Rearden
I know your opinion of 'Bush, Jr', Hank.

You don't need to waste your effort telling me.....

78 posted on 01/14/2004 6:45:08 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality - my tagline is unchanged)
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To: texasflower
Vile people behave in vile ways.

It's best to ignore them.

79 posted on 01/14/2004 6:47:35 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality - my tagline is unchanged)
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To: RJCogburn
Right.

Whatever you say, Rooster. You're the expert.

80 posted on 01/14/2004 6:48:36 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality - my tagline is unchanged)
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