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Pre-emptive U.S. policy on terror may be working
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Jan 13 | William Safire

Posted on 01/13/2004 3:20:09 AM PST by SandRat

The strategic reason for crushing Saddam was to reverse the tide of global terror that incubated in the Middle East.

Is our pre-emptive policy working? Was the message sent by ousting the Baathists as well as the Taliban worth the cost?

Set aside the tens of thousands of lives saved each year by ending Saddam's sustained murder of Iraqi Shia and Kurds, which is of little concern to human rights inactivists. Consider only self-defense: the practical impact of U.S. action on the spread of dangerous weaponry in anti-democratic hands.

1. In Libya, Col. Gadhafi took one look at our army massing for the invasion of Iraq and decided to get out of the mass-destruction business. He has since stopped lying to gullible U.N. inspectors and - in return for U.S. investment instead of invasion - promises civilized behavior. The notion that this terror-supporting dictator's epiphany was not the direct result of our military action, but of decade-long diplomatic pleas for goodness and mercy, is laughable.

2. In Afghanistan, a grand conclave of leaders freed by U.S. power surprised the Arab world's doubting despots with the elements of a constitution that leads the way out of the past's abyss of barbarism.

3. In Syria, a hiding place for Saddam's finances, henchmen and weaponry - and exporter of Hezbollah and Hamas terrorism - the dictator Bashar Assad is nervously seeking to reopen negotiations with Israel to regain strategic heights his father lost in the last Syrian aggression. Secret talks have already begun; this would not have happened while Saddam was able to choke off illicit oil shipments to Syria.

4. On the West Bank, incipient Israeli negotiations with Syria - on top of the overthrow of the despot who rewarded Palestinian suicide bombers - further isolates the terror organizations behind Yasser Arafat. Under the pressure of Israel's security fence, and without the active support of Egypt and Saudi Arabia (each eager to retain protection of a strong-willed Bush administration), Palestinians now have incentives to find an anti-terrorist leader who can deliver statehood.

5. In Iran, the presence of 130,000 U.S. troops near the border was not lost on the despot-clerics in power, who suddenly seemed reasonable to European diplomats seeking guarantees that Russian-built nuclear plants would be inspected. Colin Powell has been secretly dickering with the so-called reform ayatollah for a year in hopes of being on the right side of a future revolution. The old "Great Satan" crowd has just barred four-score reformist Parliament members from seeking re-election. That panicky crackdown in Tehran is a sign of the rulers' weakness.

6. In Iraq, where casualties in Baghdad could be compared to civilian losses to everyday violence in New York and Los Angeles, a rudimentary federal republic is forming itself with all the customary growing pains.

But we did not depose Saddam to impose a puppet; we are helping Iraqis defeat the diehards and resist fragmentation to set in place a powerful democratic example.

Columnist Jim Hoagland cautions that it is too early to proclaim that nonproliferation is "spinning into control." But taken together, this phased array of fallout to our decision to lead the world's war against terror makes the case that what we have been doing is strategically sound as well as morally right.

William Safire is a columnist for The New York Times, 229 W. 43rd St., New York, N.Y. 10036; e-mail: safire@nytimes.com.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bushdoctrineunfold; collateralbenefits; hezbollah; iran; iraq; israel; libya; preemption; preemptive; safire; syria; terror; williamsafire
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1 posted on 01/13/2004 3:20:09 AM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Marine Inspector
ping
2 posted on 01/13/2004 3:22:18 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat; Clontarf76; Atlantic Friend; BigSkyFreeper; ThePointer; Robert_Paulson2
Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon
No, no, no -- Appeasement works!
If we just do what OBL asks, everything will be fine. /sarcasm
3 posted on 01/13/2004 3:26:11 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
Why, Risk, you are getting unfair : appeasement DO work ! Look : it worked for Hitler in Rhineland, Austria and Czechoslovakia, Mussolini in Ethiopia, Tojo in China, Lenin in Russia, Stalin in Eastern Europe, etc...

It's like what Shakespeare wrote about treason : appeasement never fails, because when it fails none dare call it appeasement...

4 posted on 01/13/2004 3:32:12 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Atlantic Friend; Travis McGee
It's like what Shakespeare wrote about treason : appeasement never fails, because when it fails none dare call it appeasement...

bttt

5 posted on 01/13/2004 3:33:05 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
Lord Chamberlain of Peace in Our Time fame is deeply proud of all appeasers.
6 posted on 01/13/2004 3:47:43 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Actually, he died a bitter and dissappointed old man. He knew he had failed, and I doubt he would have advocated appeasement again.
7 posted on 01/13/2004 3:50:45 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
The funny part is he serves as such a fine example of the cost of appeasement.

While assigned in Germany when Jimmie Carter was elected a British counter part accused us of bringing Lord Chamberlain back from the dead; and this was on the day Carter was elected.
8 posted on 01/13/2004 3:56:07 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: DoctorZIn
perspective ping
9 posted on 01/13/2004 4:21:41 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Freedom is a package deal - with it comes responsibilities and consequences.)
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To: SandRat
Pre-emptive U.S. policy on terror may be working

First humiliation, then denial. Then restoration of respect, accompanied by more denial. Then frustration, accompanied by the realization of defeat. Then capitualtion, accompanied by realignment of power. Then peace.

10 posted on 01/13/2004 4:25:07 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright
Oops. Capitulation.
11 posted on 01/13/2004 4:27:49 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright
It is working, but we still need to hit the mother lode of terrorists -- Pakistan and the banking behind most of them -- Saudi A.
12 posted on 01/13/2004 4:31:09 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Cronos
A reverse domino theory?
13 posted on 01/13/2004 5:01:08 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: Cronos
The role which lack of respect played in 9-11 was pivotal IMHO, and cannot be underestimated. Our response has surprised them, the consequences to the "Arab street" replete with the humiliation factor necessary to stunt their will to hit us again.

Those who rejoiced in our comeuppance now join us in silent pleading for an end to this madness, and this particular enemy requires an applauding audience to raise the curtain on another play.

This war is not yet won, but we must realize what we have done right, and the role psychology plays in all wars. There are more snakes in the grass, but they are scurrying, hissing and feinting, but no longer feeling invited to approach us with impunity.

14 posted on 01/13/2004 5:03:03 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
good news ping
15 posted on 01/13/2004 5:26:54 AM PST by getgoing (Candle in the window 'till our heroes are home.)
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To: wayoverontheright
and the role psychology plays in all wars

Psychology works with sane folks. The Soviets didn't nuke us as they knew the consequences. The slammies don't have such sane thoughts -- they'd nuke us even if we blow them out of existence. If we don't go out and attack and destroy this vile cult it's going to spread -- as it has spread for the past 1400 years, as a virulent disease, destroying individuals, nations, civilisations. And now it's coming for us.
16 posted on 01/13/2004 5:26:54 AM PST by Cronos (W2004!)
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To: Cronos
The Japanese and the Germans are living testament to the fact that abject belligerants can be turned into ultra pacifists through humiliation and dire consequences. I am confident, however, that at some point a huge conflagration (read nuclear) may have to befall this particular enemy before this is over.
17 posted on 01/13/2004 5:40:44 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Cronos
They surely haven't acted sanely to date, but we can hope ME wackos now understand the US will stand and kill them.

Are they sane or not? I have a nagging suspicion that the '72 virgin/martyr bonus' will become a tougher sell, except to the weakest of their kind.

18 posted on 01/13/2004 5:47:19 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: getgoing; SandRat; MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
The strategic reason for crushing Saddam was to reverse the tide of global terror that incubated in the Middle East.

Is our pre-emptive policy working? Was the message sent by ousting the Baathists as well as the Taliban worth the cost?

Set aside the tens of thousands of lives saved each year by ending Saddam's sustained murder of Iraqi Shia and Kurds, which is of little concern to human rights inactivists. Consider only self-defense: the practical impact of U.S. action on the spread of dangerous weaponry in anti-democratic hands.

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William Safire's editorial follows a string of year-end editorials with a common (common sense) theme: the war in Iraq is ~ and was ~ just.

Walter Cronkite and Jane Fonda are saddened.

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19 posted on 01/13/2004 6:33:34 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: wayoverontheright
This is a very winnable war. Terrorists are not an organized agency like the CIA. Sometimes they are helped by governments, but then we must crush those governments. Even the thousands of terrorists trained in Al Quaida camps can all be hunted down and killed - and that is the task at hand.

George W. Bush, the agencies involved, and his cabinet have done a brilliant job in this part of the war against Al Quaida and their backers. We may yet have to go to war against Iran, but that is for Iranians to decide.

The bad part of the war is the pseudo-war at home: intrusive "Patriot Acts" but no border security. Tens of millions of illegals and no coherent hunt for Moslem illegals. No systematic questioning whether Moslems here legally lied about affiliations to extremist organizations. And the TSA - 'nuff said. This is a war to preserve our freedom, and in the U.S. it is being conducted in a way that is counterproductive to that very freedom.
20 posted on 01/13/2004 6:36:15 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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