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Mark Steyn: We are falling under the imam's spell
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 01/13/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/12/2004 4:32:29 PM PST by Pokey78

Let me see if I understand the BBC Rules of Engagement correctly: if you're Robert Kilroy-Silk and you make some robust statements about the Arab penchant for suicide bombing, amputations, repression of women and a generally celebratory attitude to September 11 – none of which is factually in dispute – the BBC will yank you off the air and the Commission for Racial Equality will file a complaint to the police which could result in your serving seven years in gaol. Message: this behaviour is unacceptable in multicultural Britain.

But, if you're Tom Paulin and you incite murder, in a part of the world where folks need little incitement to murder, as part of a non-factual emotive rant about how "Brooklyn-born" Jewish settlers on the West Bank "should be shot dead" because "they are Nazis" and "I feel nothing but hatred for them", the BBC will keep you on the air, kibitzing (as the Zionists would say) with the crème de la crème of London's cultural arbiters each week. Message: this behaviour is completely acceptable.

So, while the BBC is "investigating" Kilroy, its only statement on Mr Paulin was an oblique but curiously worded allusion to the non-controversy on the Corporation website: "His polemical, knockabout style has ruffled feathers in the US, where the Jewish question is notoriously sensitive." "The Jewish question"? "Notoriously sensitive"? Is this really how they talk at the BBC?

Mr Paulin's style is only metaphorically knockabout. But, a few days after his remarks were published in the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram, some doughty Palestinian "activists" rose to his challenge and knocked about some settlers more literally, murdering among others five-year-old Danielle Shefi. In a touch of symbolism the critic in Mr Paulin might have found a wee bit obvious, they left her Mickey Mouse sheets soaked in blood.

Evidently Kilroy's "polemical, knockabout style" is far more problematic. For what it's worth, I accept the BBC's right to axe his show. I haven't seen it in a decade and I thought they should have axed it then. I myself got fired by the BBC a while back and, although I had a couple of rough years sleeping in a rotting boxcar at the back of the freight yards, I crawled my way back to semi-insolvency. There's no doubt in my mind that, when the CRE, the BBC, the Metropolitan Police and the Muslim Council of Britain are through making an example of him, he'll still be able to find gainful employment, if not in TV then certainly in casual construction work or seasonal fruit-picking.

But it's not really about Kilroy or Paulin or Jews, or the Saudis beheading men for (alleged) homosexuality, or the inability of the "moderate" Jordanian parliament to ban honour killing, or the fact that (as Jonathan Kay of Canada's National Post memorably put it) if Robert Mugabe walked into an Arab League summit he'd be the most democratically legitimate leader in the room. It's not about any of that: it's about the future of your "multicultural" society.

One reason why the Arab world is in the state it's in is because one cannot raise certain subjects without it impacting severely on one's wellbeing. And if you can't discuss issues, they don't exist. According to Ibrahim Nawar of Arab Press Freedom Watch, in the last two years seven Saudi editors have been fired for criticising government policies. To fire a British talk-show host for criticising Saudi policies is surely over-reaching even for the notoriously super-sensitive Muslim lobby.

But apparently not. "What Robert could do," suggested the CRE's Trevor Phillips helpfully, "is issue a proper apology, not for the fact that people were offended, but for saying this stuff in the first place. Secondly he could learn something about Muslims and Arabs – they gave us maths and medicine – and thirdly he could use some of his vast earnings to support a Muslim charity. Then I would say he has been properly contrite."

Extravagant public contrition. Re-education camp. "Voluntary" surrender of assets. It's not unknown for officials at government agencies to lean on troublemaking citizens in this way, but not usually in functioning democracies.

When Catholic groups complain about things like Terrence McNally's Broadway play Corpus Christi (in which a gay Jesus enjoys anal sex with Judas), the arts crowd says a healthy society has to have "artists" with the "courage" to "explore" "transgressive" "ideas", etc. But, when Cincinnati Muslims complained about the local theatre's new play about a Palestinian suicide bomber, the production was immediately cancelled: the courageous transgressive arts guys folded like a Bedouin tent. The play was almost laughably pro-Palestinian, but that wasn't the point: the Muslim community leaders didn't care whether the play was pro- or anti-Islam: for them, Islam was beyond discussion. End of subject. And so it was.

Fifteen years ago, when the fatwa against Salman Rushdie was declared and both his defenders and detractors managed to miss what the business was really about, the Times's Clifford Longley nailed it very well. Surveying the threats from British Muslim groups, he wrote that certain Muslim beliefs "are not compatible with a plural society: Islam does not know how to exist as a minority culture. For it is not just a set of private individual principles and beliefs. Islam is a social creed above all, a radically different way of organising society as a whole."

Since then, societal organisation-wise, things seem to be going Islam's way swimmingly - literally in the case of the French municipal pool which bowed to Muslim requests to institute single-sex bathing, but also in more important ways. Thus, I see the French interior minister flew to Egypt to seek the blessing for his new religious legislation of the big-time imam at the al-Azhar theological institute. Rather odd, don't you think? After all, Egypt isn't in the French interior. But, if Egypt doesn't fall within the interior minister's jurisdiction, France apparently falls within the imam's.

And so, when free speech, artistic expression, feminism and other totems of western pluralism clash directly with the Islamic lobby, Islam more often than not wins – and all the noisy types who run around crying "Censorship!" if a Texas radio station refuses to play the Bush-bashing Dixie Chicks suddenly fall silent. I don't know about you, but this "multicultural Britain" business is beginning to feel like an interim phase.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ageofliberty; bbc; kilroy; marksteyn; marksteynlist
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To: Dog Gone
"Political correctness, especially in defense of radical Islam, will be the death of us all"

It's already led to death of some. Only in America, (and probably Britian) after the first WTC attack by Islamic extremists, does a president target Christian fundamentalists in Waco instead of those who attempted to kill Americans.

Only in America (and probably places in Europe) do we search 90-year old grannies before boarding planes so we don't look like we're profiling Arab men...even though 19 of them hijacked airliners killing over 3,000 Americans.

Only in America, is Timothy McVeigh an outright terrorist who deserves no understanding (which I agree), but the Arabs who are killing US troops in Iraq...and around the world are disgruntled/oppressed/impoverished... activists, geurillas, freedom fighters, etc. Not only do we attribute some excuse or root cause to their behaviour, the media even orders it's publishers to remove the word "terrorist" from their publications and broadcasts. Oh, yeah...we're definitely in the drivers seat for this war.
21 posted on 01/12/2004 5:14:08 PM PST by cwb (ç†)
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To: Pokey78
Steyn at his best.

Extravagant public contrition. Re-education camp. "Voluntary" surrender of assets. It's not unknown for officials at government agencies to lean on troublemaking citizens in this way, but not usually in functioning democracies.

But Mark, what makes you think it is still a functioning democracy? Do the people have recourse to arms to protect themselves and their property? Or is their only recourse to
plead with a government and pray it deals with them in a fair manner?

Oh we are not immune either, but we also have the means to make government responsive to our declarations.
Britain as much as france (at least I'll still capitalize Britain) is in serious denial as to the inroads Islam has
eaten away into their society. Not much different than here
but hopefully it's not too late for either of us. france on the other hand does not have the demographics on their side.
22 posted on 01/12/2004 5:14:11 PM PST by tet68
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To: Shermy
Kilroy-Silk is apparently protesting the BBC decision to take his program off the air. Per CNS.com BBC Talk Show Host Suspended For Anti-Arab Column

Prairie

23 posted on 01/12/2004 5:17:05 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Was O'Neill being blackmailed or did Clinton call in the aluminum favor? Only the Shadow knows.....)
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To: gcruse
For a very long time, it wasn't a defense against libel in this country either.
24 posted on 01/12/2004 5:17:59 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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To: Pokey78
Looks like the Battle of Britain was lost after all...at least in the hearts of Britishers
25 posted on 01/12/2004 5:19:30 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Shermy
The writer of that bio piece you linked shouldn't have been so mealy-mouthed and just written Endlösung der Judenfrage.

I can't see how anyone with even a tenth grade education would use a phrase like that, especially in an article describing a man who calls for the murder of Israelis. It must be intentional. I'm not sure if I should laugh or be horrified, but I'm leaning towards horrified.

26 posted on 01/12/2004 5:23:20 PM PST by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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To: NovemberCharlie
For a very long time, it wasn't a defense against libel in this country either.

What turned it around?
27 posted on 01/12/2004 5:25:57 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Cuttnhorse
That Islam combines church, state and culture in one big goody bag is something that's taught in Middle Eastern History 101.

In fact, they've been teaching that in the West for the last 1100 years.

The problem is that in the Moslem World it's not discussed at all ~ rather, it's enforced!

28 posted on 01/12/2004 5:29:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dog Gone
Political correctness, especially in defense of radical Islam, will be the death of us all.

All except the ones who would assimilate us. Resistance is futile. We're outnumbered. But we'll get 10 of them for every 1 of us.

And that's just counting Muslims...not to mention Marxist Racists like La Raza ---NEWSMAX Michael Savage Article

29 posted on 01/12/2004 5:33:34 PM PST by Indie (Hopefully my post is void of hate speech and spurious flames)
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To: Pokey78
Brilliant as always Steyn BUMP
30 posted on 01/12/2004 5:33:51 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Pokey78
Another smashing piece by Steyn.
31 posted on 01/12/2004 5:35:48 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: NovemberCharlie
Turns out to be quite a story.

[Alexander] Hamilton at first tried to chase down James Callender to appear as a witness for the defense [against President Jefferson], but Callender was found face down in a puddle, suspiciously dead.
32 posted on 01/12/2004 5:39:57 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Pokey78
Steyn BTT. I am beginning to suspect that the ruling class in charge of the BBC is no less susceptible to simple physical intimidation than the Islamists who are doing the intimidating - the latter seem to be thundering remarkably less in the U.S.'s direction since a certain vermin-infested mighty warrior was pulled from his hole, but they're still sufficient to impress a bunch of politically-correct wankers whose credo is that the West is always wrong.

It may not be safe for the British Broadcast Cadre to poke fun at the Islamists, but it's safe enough to bash the U.S. at leisure and it always will be. These flatter themselves as "gadflys" but in fact are no more than lice on the body politic, irritating and inescapable until their weary victim turns to the one cure - a private broadcasting alternative that isn't feeding off the public by force. The lice don't like competition.

33 posted on 01/12/2004 5:44:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78
"His polemical, knockabout style has ruffled feathers in the US, where the Jewish question is notoriously sensitive."

Maybe if they put their minds to it, the people at the BBC could come up with a final solution to the question.

34 posted on 01/12/2004 5:44:50 PM PST by Savage Beast (The delusional hate truth. It threatens the delusions. They also hate the bearers of truth.)
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To: Pokey78
Somebody had better put a protective ring around Steyn before he becomes the subject of a fatwa!
35 posted on 01/12/2004 5:44:53 PM PST by Gritty ("when totems of pluralism clash with the Islamic lobby, Islam more often than not wins -Mark Steyn)
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To: Pokey78
"His polemical, knockabout style has ruffled feathers in the US, where the Jewish question is notoriously sensitive."

Commentary worthy of Der Völkischer Beobachter.

36 posted on 01/12/2004 5:48:17 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Pokey78
"Islam is a social creed above all, a radically different way of organising society as a whole."

In other words: Islam is a political movement, as much as a religion, and it must be dealt with as such.

37 posted on 01/12/2004 5:52:39 PM PST by Savage Beast (The delusional hate truth. It threatens the delusions. They also hate the bearers of truth.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Agree. Longley has nailed it. Having lived in three Islamic countries for a total of nine years and traveled to numerous others, many in the West don't understand Islam in terms of its relationship to society as a whole. You can't separate the two. Even in the most liberal Islamic societies, tolerance of other religions and viewpoints that run counter to Islam is marginal at best. Although it may not be politcal correct, I view Islam more as a cult than a religion in the Judeo-Christian mold. Perhaps there will be a Reformation-like change some day to bring Islam into the modern world, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
38 posted on 01/12/2004 5:53:42 PM PST by kabar
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To: helives
"I don't know about you, but this "multicultural Britain" business is beginning to feel like an interim phase."

bump

39 posted on 01/12/2004 5:54:10 PM PST by mitch5501 (by the grace of God,I am what I am)
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To: gcruse
As to what I have no idea, but I read this NRO article by Eugene Volokh that gives a rough idea of when: In the late 1700s and early 1800s, courts routinely held that some antigovernment speech — even speech that wasn't directly inciting crime — was constitutionally unprotected. In many states, until the 1810s and 1820s truth wasn't a defense to criminal libel prosecutions. Even when it became a defense, it generally applied only when the statement was made with "good motives" and for "justifiable ends," however a judge or jury chose to interpret these vague phrases. Those limitations weren't eliminated until the 1960s.
40 posted on 01/12/2004 5:55:42 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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