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Mark Steyn: We are falling under the imam's spell
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 01/13/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/12/2004 4:32:29 PM PST by Pokey78

Let me see if I understand the BBC Rules of Engagement correctly: if you're Robert Kilroy-Silk and you make some robust statements about the Arab penchant for suicide bombing, amputations, repression of women and a generally celebratory attitude to September 11 – none of which is factually in dispute – the BBC will yank you off the air and the Commission for Racial Equality will file a complaint to the police which could result in your serving seven years in gaol. Message: this behaviour is unacceptable in multicultural Britain.

But, if you're Tom Paulin and you incite murder, in a part of the world where folks need little incitement to murder, as part of a non-factual emotive rant about how "Brooklyn-born" Jewish settlers on the West Bank "should be shot dead" because "they are Nazis" and "I feel nothing but hatred for them", the BBC will keep you on the air, kibitzing (as the Zionists would say) with the crème de la crème of London's cultural arbiters each week. Message: this behaviour is completely acceptable.

So, while the BBC is "investigating" Kilroy, its only statement on Mr Paulin was an oblique but curiously worded allusion to the non-controversy on the Corporation website: "His polemical, knockabout style has ruffled feathers in the US, where the Jewish question is notoriously sensitive." "The Jewish question"? "Notoriously sensitive"? Is this really how they talk at the BBC?

Mr Paulin's style is only metaphorically knockabout. But, a few days after his remarks were published in the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram, some doughty Palestinian "activists" rose to his challenge and knocked about some settlers more literally, murdering among others five-year-old Danielle Shefi. In a touch of symbolism the critic in Mr Paulin might have found a wee bit obvious, they left her Mickey Mouse sheets soaked in blood.

Evidently Kilroy's "polemical, knockabout style" is far more problematic. For what it's worth, I accept the BBC's right to axe his show. I haven't seen it in a decade and I thought they should have axed it then. I myself got fired by the BBC a while back and, although I had a couple of rough years sleeping in a rotting boxcar at the back of the freight yards, I crawled my way back to semi-insolvency. There's no doubt in my mind that, when the CRE, the BBC, the Metropolitan Police and the Muslim Council of Britain are through making an example of him, he'll still be able to find gainful employment, if not in TV then certainly in casual construction work or seasonal fruit-picking.

But it's not really about Kilroy or Paulin or Jews, or the Saudis beheading men for (alleged) homosexuality, or the inability of the "moderate" Jordanian parliament to ban honour killing, or the fact that (as Jonathan Kay of Canada's National Post memorably put it) if Robert Mugabe walked into an Arab League summit he'd be the most democratically legitimate leader in the room. It's not about any of that: it's about the future of your "multicultural" society.

One reason why the Arab world is in the state it's in is because one cannot raise certain subjects without it impacting severely on one's wellbeing. And if you can't discuss issues, they don't exist. According to Ibrahim Nawar of Arab Press Freedom Watch, in the last two years seven Saudi editors have been fired for criticising government policies. To fire a British talk-show host for criticising Saudi policies is surely over-reaching even for the notoriously super-sensitive Muslim lobby.

But apparently not. "What Robert could do," suggested the CRE's Trevor Phillips helpfully, "is issue a proper apology, not for the fact that people were offended, but for saying this stuff in the first place. Secondly he could learn something about Muslims and Arabs – they gave us maths and medicine – and thirdly he could use some of his vast earnings to support a Muslim charity. Then I would say he has been properly contrite."

Extravagant public contrition. Re-education camp. "Voluntary" surrender of assets. It's not unknown for officials at government agencies to lean on troublemaking citizens in this way, but not usually in functioning democracies.

When Catholic groups complain about things like Terrence McNally's Broadway play Corpus Christi (in which a gay Jesus enjoys anal sex with Judas), the arts crowd says a healthy society has to have "artists" with the "courage" to "explore" "transgressive" "ideas", etc. But, when Cincinnati Muslims complained about the local theatre's new play about a Palestinian suicide bomber, the production was immediately cancelled: the courageous transgressive arts guys folded like a Bedouin tent. The play was almost laughably pro-Palestinian, but that wasn't the point: the Muslim community leaders didn't care whether the play was pro- or anti-Islam: for them, Islam was beyond discussion. End of subject. And so it was.

Fifteen years ago, when the fatwa against Salman Rushdie was declared and both his defenders and detractors managed to miss what the business was really about, the Times's Clifford Longley nailed it very well. Surveying the threats from British Muslim groups, he wrote that certain Muslim beliefs "are not compatible with a plural society: Islam does not know how to exist as a minority culture. For it is not just a set of private individual principles and beliefs. Islam is a social creed above all, a radically different way of organising society as a whole."

Since then, societal organisation-wise, things seem to be going Islam's way swimmingly - literally in the case of the French municipal pool which bowed to Muslim requests to institute single-sex bathing, but also in more important ways. Thus, I see the French interior minister flew to Egypt to seek the blessing for his new religious legislation of the big-time imam at the al-Azhar theological institute. Rather odd, don't you think? After all, Egypt isn't in the French interior. But, if Egypt doesn't fall within the interior minister's jurisdiction, France apparently falls within the imam's.

And so, when free speech, artistic expression, feminism and other totems of western pluralism clash directly with the Islamic lobby, Islam more often than not wins – and all the noisy types who run around crying "Censorship!" if a Texas radio station refuses to play the Bush-bashing Dixie Chicks suddenly fall silent. I don't know about you, but this "multicultural Britain" business is beginning to feel like an interim phase.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ageofliberty; bbc; kilroy; marksteyn; marksteynlist
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1 posted on 01/12/2004 4:32:29 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

2 posted on 01/12/2004 4:33:41 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: Pokey78
Message: this behaviour is unacceptable in multicultural Britain.

But not unexpected in country wherein truth is no defense against libel.
Let that sink in.  Truth is no defense.
3 posted on 01/12/2004 4:38:40 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Pokey78
"...the Times's Clifford Longley nailed it very well. Surveying the threats from British Muslim groups, he wrote that certain Muslim beliefs "are not compatible with a plural society: Islam does not know how to exist as a minority culture. For it is not just a set of private individual principles and beliefs. Islam is a social creed above all, a radically different way of organising society as a whole."

At the risk of being politically incorrect...what a great summary...worth keeping.

4 posted on 01/12/2004 4:40:02 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Pokey78
Great post and an even better tagline.
5 posted on 01/12/2004 4:42:56 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Pokey78
"The Jewish question"

I think the Imams would like to see a final solution to the Jewish question.

6 posted on 01/12/2004 4:46:15 PM PST by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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To: Pokey78
To fire a British talk-show host for criticising Saudi policies is surely over-reaching even for the notoriously super-sensitive Muslim lobby. ... But apparently not.

Reality is stranger than fiction ...

7 posted on 01/12/2004 4:46:26 PM PST by Tax-chick (I reserve the right to disclaim all January 2004 posts after the BABY is born!)
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To: Pokey78
So when are people going to get fed up enought to start doing something about this?
8 posted on 01/12/2004 4:48:28 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Pokey78
"Islam does not know how to exist as a minority culture. For it is not just a set of private individual principles and beliefs. Islam is a social creed above all, a radically different way of organising society as a whole."

Lord, I wish that fit into a tagline. That's the best summary of Islamism I have ever seen.

}:-)4

9 posted on 01/12/2004 4:49:03 PM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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To: Pokey78
Political correctness, especially in defense of radical Islam, will be the death of us all.
10 posted on 01/12/2004 4:51:41 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I find your response to be demeaning to the Islamic culture and I am greatly offended. I demand that your posting privilages be revoked, and that you are banned for your lack of sensitivity.

(Man, being despotic is really easy! No wonder it's the leftist / Islamofascist weapon of choice)

11 posted on 01/12/2004 4:56:02 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Inveniemus viam aut faciemus" - We will either find a way or make one.)
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To: Pokey78
I don't know about you, but this "multicultural Britain" business is beginning to feel like an interim phase.

I hope Steyn is not up to his usual accurate predictions on this one!

12 posted on 01/12/2004 4:56:21 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Dog Gone
According to Frank Gaffney, Grover Norquist is still regularly getting Islamists into the White House.
13 posted on 01/12/2004 4:56:45 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Pokey78
Comfort in numbers....we're not the only crazy ones. The Brits have a deathwish, like many libs over here. Payback for their/our lack of resolve and common sense will be hell. So sad. So dangerous.
14 posted on 01/12/2004 4:57:23 PM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: Dog Gone
When Cincinnati Muslims complained about the local theatre's new play about a Palestinian suicide bomber, the production was immediately cancelled: the courageous transgressive arts guys folded like a Bedouin tent. -Mark Steyn

Political correctness, especially in defense of radical Islam, will be the death of us all.

We need more straight talk. Put Steyn in the New York Times!

15 posted on 01/12/2004 4:58:43 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Moose4
How bout "France is now ruled by an Imam in Cairo."
16 posted on 01/12/2004 4:59:39 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Brian Allen
,,, BBC is also heavily lamenting the fall of Communism in the former Soviet Union.
17 posted on 01/12/2004 5:00:38 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: NutCrackerBoy
.We need more straight talk. Put Steyn in the New York Times!

Never happen.  But why hasn't he been on Fox News all along?
18 posted on 01/12/2004 5:00:48 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Snake65
#6

Here's the BBC lines

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/newsmakers/2481623.stm

"...Tom Paulin's passionate rhetoric puts him firmly in the great - and varied - tradition of Irish dissenters, whether they be Jonathan Swift, James Joyce or Ian Paisley.

Now his polemical, knockabout, style has ruffled feathers in the US, where the Jewish question is notoriously sensitive...."

Swift and Joyce would use Nazi-like terms like "Jewish Question?"

Ian Paisley?

Strange.

19 posted on 01/12/2004 5:05:34 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Pokey78; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2
<< When Catholic groups complain about things like Terrence McNally's Broadway play Corpus Christi [In which a (Sodomist misrepresentation of) Jesus (perpetrates simulated "sex") with Judas), the arts crowd says a healthy society has to have "artists" with the "courage" to "explore" "transgressive" "ideas" etceteras. But when Cincinnati Muslims complained about the local theatre's new play about a Palestinian suicide bomber, the production was immediately cancelled: the "courageous" "transgressive" "arts" "guys" folded like Bedouin tents. >>

[The camp bastards]

The false-fuerher-following death cult we know of as "islam" is not a "religion."

It's a hostile metastasizing invasion and unassimilable colonization of the Civilized World.
20 posted on 01/12/2004 5:09:57 PM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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