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US Seargent Branded A Coward Mounts Furious Fightback
Independent (UK) ^ | 1-12-2004 | Andrew Gumbel

Posted on 01/11/2004 3:53:22 PM PST by blam

US sergeant branded a coward mounts furious fightback

Combat Stress

By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angles
12 January 2004

If Jessica Lynch, the fresh-faced West Virginia teenager turned international media icon, could be described as the accidental hero of the Iraq war, then Georg-Andreas Pogany is the accidental coward.

Like Private Lynch, who became an international celebrity largely through the manipulation of the Pentagon's propaganda machine rather than anything she did or did not do on the battlefield, Staff Sergeant Pogany, hired as a translator and interrogator with US Special Forces, did nothing to seek out his poster-child status and almost certainly does not deserve the notoriety that has come his way.

Unlike Ms Lynch, though, he has no million-dollar book deals or exclusive television interviews lined up. Instead, he is back at his home base in Fort Carson, Colorado, treated as a pariah by his fellow soldiers and former colleagues in the Green Berets, his legal status in limbo and his reputation in tatters.

His story, on the surface, seems unremarkable. Last September, after just two days on active duty in Iraq, he caught sight of the mangled body of a dead Iraqi soldier inside a white body bag. The body was ripped almost in two, with a large hole and strips of ripped flesh where the man's chest should have been.

Although a gun battle was in progress at the time - he was stationed in the tense city of Samarra, within the so-called "Sunni Triangle" of central Iraq - Sgt Pogany was not himself involved in the combat. Initially, he pushed the image of the dead Iraqi to the back of his mind and continued puffing on a cigarette.

But a few hours later, the image returned and began to haunt him. He started shaking and vomiting and could not sleep. By the next morning, he thought he might be having a nervous breakdown.

One might conclude that this was a relatively routine case of combat stress. That was the opinion of an Army chaplain Sgt Pogany consulted, and also that of an Army psychologist who suggested he transfer to other, less stressful duties until the panic attack subsided and he could return to his regular job. His, they concluded, was a normal reaction to the brutality of war.

But Sgt Pogany's misfortune was to have a singularly unsympathetic commanding officer, whose first reaction was to tell him to "get your head out of your ass". It only deteriorated from there.

In short order, Sgt Pogany found himself stripped of his weapons and sent home to face a formal charge of cowardice before a court martial - a serious, and rarely prosecuted offence punishable by death.

According to an account Sgt Pogany gave recently to the Denver Post newspaper, he had begun to implement the army psychologist's advice and was feeling much better when his commanding officer took the drastic action of branding him a coward. In front of a group of lower-ranking soldiers, the commander told him "what a shit bag I am and what a fucking coward I am".

Soon, Sgt Pogany was being vilified in the US media as a disgrace to his country. One television station put his picture beside Jessica Lynch's in a split-screen montage. Pte Lynch's image was emblazoned with the word "hero", while his carried the tag "coward".

On his return to the US, he was frisked and patted down, examined at an army hospital and deemed fit for duty. His expectation at that point was to be returned to active duty - something he would not have opposed. "The soldier should be returned to duty with no change in duty status," the hospital psychologist wrote in his report.

But within a week he was instead slapped with the cowardice charge and put on humiliating cleaning duties at Fort Carson.

His legal status has steadily improved since then. The cowardice charge was dropped and replaced with a formal accusation of "dereliction of duty" - which carries a possible six month sentence in a military prison. In mid-December, that charge, too, was dropped - in effect, an admission by the military authorities that there was no case against him in the first place.

But Sgt Pogany's nightmare is far from over. His commanders could still try him on a non-judicial charge of dereliction of duty, which could lead to confinement, docked pay and rank, and a less than honourable discharge. Or they could opt to revive the court martial charges. The danger, especially, in the former case, is that the officer bringing the charges would also be the one presiding over the trial, making it almost impossible for him to clear his name.

The third option is that the case would be dropped altogether, but there is no indication such a decision would be taken quickly. Even in that best of scenarios, Sgt Pogany's reputation would be almost impossible to salvage.

"Some might say he has received national notoriety," his lawyer, Richard Travis, said recently. "How do you fix that? How do you reinstate your integrity?"

Sgt Pogany's case has elicited some sympathy in the US media - in newspapers if not on television. "The message is that under no circumstances should a man show any emotions, even in the face of the brutal events of war. Here we go again," wrote one impassioned editorialist, Philip Rose, in an upstate New York newspaper.


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KEYWORDS: coward; deadiraqisoldiers; fightback; furious; seargent; us
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1 posted on 01/11/2004 3:53:24 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
"It's my nerves, Sir."
2 posted on 01/11/2004 4:02:10 PM PST by onedoug
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3 posted on 01/11/2004 4:03:00 PM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: blam
The only thing in this article I agree with is that this guy doesn't deserve the notoriety he's getting. He should be quietly cleaning toilets with his tongue for bailing out on his comrades. You can bet he wasn't the only soldier sickened by what he saw in the war -- but he was the only one to chicken out.
4 posted on 01/11/2004 4:05:43 PM PST by mikegi
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To: blam
Thank God that the troops on Omaha Beach weren't afflicted with the Pogany Syndrome.
5 posted on 01/11/2004 4:07:29 PM PST by jackbill
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To: blam
I'm shocked they didn't have grief counselors available fo the poor lad!
6 posted on 01/11/2004 4:10:44 PM PST by Dionysius
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To: blam
But Sgt Pogany's nightmare is far from over. His commanders could still try him on a non-judicial charge of dereliction of duty, which could lead to confinement, docked pay and rank, and a less than honourable discharge. Or they could opt to revive the court martial charges. The danger, especially, in the former case, is that the officer bringing the charges would also be the one presiding over the trial, making it almost impossible for him to clear his name.

A very poor explanation of NJP and a court martial. I don't know if this kid is a coward or not, but his options under the UCMJ are not quite this bleak.

7 posted on 01/11/2004 4:12:53 PM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: blam
Special Forces (Green Beret's) are 100% volunteers. He's got ZERO excuses.

I understand human reactions to stress, the horrors of war, etc. A normal serviceman gets my sympathy in this type of situation if they truly aren't cut out for war. There are other things they can do (and be safer for others in the line). But a Green Beret Sergeant? He put himself in this situation, went through lots of training with lots of opportunities to opt out. He should do a long stretch at Fort Leveanworth, at the very least.

From the sound of this article (so far as you can trust it) he didn't abandon his comrades under fire, so this probably doesn't warrant Private Stivick's (sp?) ultimate punishment, but he can't ever be trusted in combat and should be court martialed according to his conduct.

8 posted on 01/11/2004 4:16:39 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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B.S., you guys.

We have an all volunteer force and if someone doesn't be there, they shouldn't be there. It would put other lives in jeapordy.

Hold on for a second so I can pull my asbestos long johns on...OK...I'm ready.
9 posted on 01/11/2004 4:16:51 PM PST by baltodog (A diamond lasts a lifetime, but a Freeper post lasts forever....)
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To: blam
Patton would have slapped it out of him.
10 posted on 01/11/2004 4:17:39 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (A little knowledge is dangerous.-- I live dangerously::))
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Sickened by war? This guy didn't see anything that an EMT doesn't see all the time.

He was exposed to no combat. He saw a dead body in bad condition. If that pegs out his stress meter, he has no business being in the Army, much less serving as a support guy in an SF unit.

11 posted on 01/11/2004 4:19:33 PM PST by Steel Wolf (My other ride is a black helicopter.)
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To: onedoug
6-6 and a kick.
12 posted on 01/11/2004 4:20:33 PM PST by tet68
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To: Phsstpok
Hello...the US Army is 100% volunteers.
13 posted on 01/11/2004 4:22:17 PM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: baltodog
We have an all volunteer force and if someone doesn't be there, they shouldn't be there

I assume you meant to say 'doesn't want to be there'

If someone doesn't want to be there, then at some point during the long enlistment process they should have said 'I do not want to enlist', and gone home. Once you make the commitment to serve, you serve. If you do not care to make that commitment, then don't. No one made him sign up.

14 posted on 01/11/2004 4:23:28 PM PST by Steel Wolf (My other ride is a black helicopter.)
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To: blam
Using Audie Murphy as a standard, we're most of us cowards... and what other standard is there? I remember thinking at the time this blew up that what we have here is not so much a failure on the soldier's part as a failure by his commander to show any leadership whatever. Guys getting nervy is a part of combat and dealing with that fact is a part of what leadership is about.
15 posted on 01/11/2004 4:24:37 PM PST by Grut
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To: blam
As an EIB certified intelligence analyst I must point out the 2 mile hole in Gumbel's story. I would bill him for my services but he needs the money.That was the opinion of an Army chaplain Sgt Pogany consulted, and also that of an Army psychologist who suggested he transfer to other, less stressful duties until the panic attack subsided and he could return to his regular job. His, they concluded, was a normal reaction to the brutality of war.

But Sgt Pogany's misfortune was to have a singularly unsympathetic commanding officer, whose first reaction was to tell him to "get your head out of your ass". It only deteriorated from there.

[EIB analyst notes: journalist Gumbel purposefully left out any facts about what happened next to support cowardice and dereliction of duty charges]

In short order, Sgt Pogany found himself stripped of his weapons and sent home to face a formal charge of cowardice before a court martial - a serious, and rarely prosecuted offence punishable by death.

Andrew Gumbel, professional journalist

16 posted on 01/11/2004 4:28:58 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Phsstpok
He's not a Green Beret, he's a support guy who works in an SF unit. Green Berets are the 'triple volunteers', Army, Airborne and SF, respectively speaking.

Even a support guy is a double volunteer. By that stage in his career he has no excuse to either act as he did, or be surprised at the results.

That, if nothing else, cinches it for me. Were I to publicly disgrace my unit, the last thing I'd want to do is run crying to the press. If he's this incapable of falling on his sword to cover up for his own failings, it demonstrates exactly what kind of person and soldier he is.

Were he actually being screwed over, as the Army is known to do, that would be one thing, and I'd be all for him trying to bust them out. But in this case, he seems to clearly be the one in the wrong, but too dense and stubborn to admit it. He is selfishly trying to cast 10th SF in a negative light to get himself off the hook, which is despicable.

17 posted on 01/11/2004 4:33:44 PM PST by Steel Wolf (My other ride is a black helicopter.)
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To: blam
In my opinion courage is not the absence of fear.

I have known a few people who did not know fear. They were for the most part psychotics. One was a criminal sociopath.

Courage is overcoming fear, refusing the paralysis that comes with fear, moving forward in spite of fear.

18 posted on 01/11/2004 4:38:43 PM PST by LibKill ("Two crossed, dead, Frenchmen emblazoned on a mound of dead Frenchmen.")
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To: wtc911
the US Army is 100% volunteers

True, but you get assigned an MOS,like cook or infantry. He had to volunteer several more times to be associated with the SF.

19 posted on 01/11/2004 4:44:38 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: blam
None of us should be passing judgement on this guy unless we've had the misfortune of being in a similar situation.

My questions is this....if they aren't going to listen to what the Army psychologist has to say then why in the hell are they assigned to a battle area in the first place?

....and before you start in on me, I'm a conservetive (like many of you) and a former Marine (unlike many of you)
20 posted on 01/11/2004 4:45:00 PM PST by theyibby
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