What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."

CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | 01/11/2004 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

[Hon]

Yeah, I'm sure Carlo was the Chairman and CEO of a company in FRANCE.

Good one! LOL!

[Hon]

"My call to Jim was to verify that Carlo is who he says he is."

Did Jim work with Edith Head, too?

You really don't know what a preposterous claim this is. And for him to say that he did the costume design for the trailers of a movie is just hilarious.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I'll leave you to your little vendetta. Spite suits you.

[Squantos]

Easy Crock Pot Mexican Chili

2 (15 1/2 oz.) cans red kidney beans, drained
1 (28 oz.) can tomatoes, cut up
1 c. chopped celery
1 c. chopped onion
1 (6 oz.) can tomato paste
1/2 c. chopped green pepper
1 (4 oz.) can green chili peppers, drained and chopped
2 tbsp. sugar
1 bay leaf
1/2 tsp. garlic powder
1 tsp. salt
1 tsp. dried, crushed marjoram
Dash of pepper
1 lb. ground beef

In skillet brown ground beef and drain. In crockery cooker combine all ingredients. Cover, cook on low heat for 8 to 10 hours. Remove bay leaf and stir before serving. Approximately 10 servings and great with corn bread!

Stay Safe Carlo !

[Hon]

Crock is appropriate.

[christie]

Seems to me you can't answer any questions yourself. Once again, what are YOUR credentials?

[jellybean]

Did Jim work with Edith Head, too?

I don't think so, but you'll have to ask JR that question. Perhaps you don't believe Jim is the owner of the website either.

Tell you what...you post your resumé and we'll see how many of the companies you worked for are listed on Google. Most of my past employers or positions wouldn't be found on a web search. That doesn't mean they didn't exist.

[Squantos]

Don't confuse my personal disapproval of this immigration issue presented to us this week with any thing close to approval with what you've implied about my friend Carlo......

Stay Safe !

[Hon]

When I start a thread making an argument based largely upon my work and general world experiences, and when others defend me based on my integrity and say that when I say I have done something I have done it--and when I link to my bio and resume in every tag line--then I will post my CV. Fair enough?

But it is edifying to see that Carlo called me a coward and other names, and yet will not respond to any of my questions. Instead it would appear he is hiding behind you, his fans.

[christie]

Carlo doesn't hide behind anyone. LOL. I'm not a fan, I'm a friend and he has been a true friend to me.

[AmericanVictory]

Well, your grandfather wanted to be American, to be a "Yankee," in the best sense of the word. Prblem here is that so many of the immigrants, especially from Mexico, don't want to be American, they want us to be like Mexico.

[jellybean]

Carlo is not hiding behind anyone. He's more than capable of speaking for himself. YOU are a coward!! And apparantly unemployed...you can't post a bio or resumé and you've been posting on the internet (this thread in particular) all day.

[jellybean]

I'm not a fan, I'm a friend

I don't think Hon understands friendship. He must be a lonely soul, sitting at his keyboard all day, unemployed, hoping someone...ANYONE! will pay attention to him.

[carlo3b]

You folks are truly wonderful.. I don't want to dignify this sophomoric exchange with any more nonsense.. I've been stupid enough to do as much as I have..

Thank you very much.. after all is said and done.. I am a lucky guy to have great FReeper FRiends indeed.. :)

[MissAmericanPie]

I understand your post better now, you didn't smuggle illegals you hired them. And you are right, you are not allowed to ask if they are illegal and have no real way of checking their papers, even if you suspect they are illegals.

The business's you have been in are teeming with them, but I take exception to your view, and I have seen other's repeat it often, about the laziness of the American worker.
I have had no such experience in my hiring of employee's in fact the opposite is true, I have hired minorities because they are minorities and able to do the job, and I have had to let them go because they were either not honest, or were interested in a salary but not interested in work or attendence.

That is not a blanket condemnation of all minority employees any more than your feelings about American workers is a blanket condemnation of all American workers it is our personal experiences with the matter. And they are 180 but there ya have it.

What does bother me, and it is not just you, it is also the attitude of my fellow countrymen that may also have not sat down and thought it out. I'm always astounded to find that I am the odd man out as usual on things that I just assume are elementry Watson, but find that I am holding yet again a minority opinion, so I have alot of experience with being a minority.

We live in a disposable society, use it toss it, to be replaced by a never ending supply of new and improved later.
Growing up in a small town on a small farm I have always felt a primal connection to this land called the USofA. My dad was big on the history of our family, my great, greats, were so alive to me that they may just have well been sitting in the next room.

But they were not, I listened as my Dad told me how they fought and died for this land I am so connected to and to those brothers who along with myself make up the decendents of this nation. I learned about integrity, fair play, justice, right and wrong, loyalty, oaths, and friendship and my Dad was very animated in the telling. I never lost interest or tuned out.

Another freeper Luis had an article on his personal page about the connection he felt to Cuba when he flew over it. The land reached into the plane to pull him. Your family came in under the fence, but with every intention of becoming Americans as fast as they could. But you have to ask yourself this, and this is the reason so many want no immigration or very limited immigration, with who do your loyalties lie? How much responsibility, loyalty, or gratitude do you have for your fellow countrymen and those who will eventually make this their home?

You hired people you suspected were illegal, fine good people, hard working, deserving, and you financed them and helped them prosper in their own business's. But do they vote carlo? And how do they vote carlo? Because as a native American, whose legal home this is, who holds title to it by the blood of my decendents, and who has the right to be left alone in my home, without home invasion, to determine who to, and not to, be charitable and welcoming to, I don't really care if they have halo's above their heads and wings sprouting out of their backs, are they voting my nation away? Are they voting their bellies? Are they voting in ways that puts pressure on the government to forgive illegals and insure more?

Because freedom is not free, carlo, and many have forgotten that fact. The Constitution is not free, it has cost vast amounts of American blood to insure. That makes native born and immigrant, responsible to preserve it. Squander it and it's only won back at the cost of vast amounts of blood and sacrifice, and then winning it is a long shot, and yet our politicians are eagerly throwing it away with both hands. What we have today is not immigration, it's Balkinization.

What we have today is not a democratic republic, what it is becoming, with each Balkinized immigrant vote, is a socialist totalitarian nightmare, and to boot all nations that have tried socialism fall. Usually to hordes of immigrants voting their bellies. In 1986 Reagan granted amnesty to three million illegals, that was three million new votes up for grabs and the demonrats wanted them, so they pandered open borders and the promised future arrival of more of their brothers and sisters as the carrot.

Where do their loyalties lay? Not with me. But why should it? My own governments loyalties don't lay with me either. If I feel a loyalty and responsibility to, if I with to insure the good of my own countrymen, then I am a nativist and a racist, when illegals do the same by wrangling more in, they are the noble needy.

What is the ultimate outcome of all this? Slave wages and a third world lifestyle for everyone, and friend, I'm just not slave material. What is the ultimate outcome? The end of the land of the free, the end of the last place to flee to, as we are put under the rule of international law. And friend, I will be ruled by no law but the Constitution of the USofA.

I feel a responsibility, no, I have a responsibility to, not only my fellow countrymen, and my own family, but those who will come, not to allow that happen just because someone is good, sweet, deserving, and a useful tool of the enemy, and so do you.

[jellybean]

I know you'd do the same for any of us...

I did some calculations to determine how much Hon's opinions matter to me. No matter which method I use (add, subtract, multiply, divide) zero still comes out to zero and fading...

[carlo3b]

But do they vote Carlo? And how do they vote Carlo?

Thank you for asking, my employees were fine respectable people with close families. I doubt it, but truly cannot recall if they voted or not before the became US citizens in 1986, I know they voted for Reagan in his bid for reelection. Because we told them it was this President that allowed them to have this opportunity.. :)

[carlo3b]

HUGGGGG.. sigh.. :)

[carlo3b]

Because freedom is not free, carlo, and many have forgotten that fact. The Constitution is not free, it has cost vast amounts of American blood to insure. That makes native born and immigrant, responsible to preserve it. Squander it and it's only won back at the cost of vast amounts of blood and sacrifice, and then winning it is a long shot, and yet our politicians are eagerly throwing it away with both hands.

WE do indeed have an obligation to protect this great country and we should do everything to preserve the integrity of our constitution..

I have, with the best of my mind and body, served my country both on the field of battle, as well as a good neighbor, as I am sure you have as well.. Thank you so very much for your commitment to your fellow countrymen.. :)

[Aetius]

If we need these workers ,and many economists say we do for our economy to grow,we must find a way to keep track and have them pay taxes.We must look at the longstanding law that if you are born here you are a citizen,as that complicates the "after three years go home" rule. Unless you are a native Indian,we are all descendents of immigrants or immigrants.We have to make it more orderly and keep up with who is who.Ranchers along the border have a right to have their property protected from trespassers. And many economists say we don't. And these 'guests' will not go home. The phenomenon of Anchor babies is just one of the reasons virtually all will be allowed to stay. You seem pretty rational, but must you bring up the whole 'unless you're an American Indian then we're all....' bit. First of all, the Indians themselves migrated to this land centuries ago, and the same could be said for virtually every native group in every nation on the planet. So what? Does that mean we must accept unending mass immigration forever, despite the fact that past great waves have been followed by long periods of low-moderate levels of immigration? And to anyone, how can you possibly cite the words inscribed on a statue (yrs later by the way) as evidence we should maintain mass immigration? Its absurd. Its seems as though for some people reducing immigration is off limits because of the Statue of Liberty. Its like something out of the Twilight Zone.