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1 posted on 01/10/2004 7:02:51 PM PST by freedom44
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After reading this article, I'm more happy than ever that I was raised in home without American race based drama. My mom was shocked that interracial marriage was illegal when she first came to this country 1963. She's a West Indian creole woman herself, and my father is Italian. The only reason why black-white is such an issue is because of the past history between the two groups in this country. Either way, race was NEVER brought up in this home because I had two parents who had better things to do.
2 posted on 01/10/2004 7:07:52 PM PST by cyborg
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3 posted on 01/10/2004 7:09:01 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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The only time I hear of the issue of whites/blacks marrying, it is usually brought up by a black person complaining that the best black men turn against their race and marry white women.

It has never been an issue with anyone I've ever known.
4 posted on 01/10/2004 7:12:47 PM PST by kingu (Remember: Politicians and members of the press are going to read what you write today.)
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That's not likely until power among the races is on a level playing field

I've never seen this "uneven playing field" that people keep talking about. Where is it?

7 posted on 01/10/2004 7:16:40 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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I live across the street from two interacial couples; in Forsyth County, Georgia, no less. I haven't observed any of the neighbors treat them any differently than any other married couples.

They've been good neighbors so far; that's all I care about.

12 posted on 01/10/2004 7:26:32 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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I wasn't aware there was such a bias. Somehow I keep missing these memos.
17 posted on 01/10/2004 7:38:31 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
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One of my older sisters dated a black guy during her rebellious stage and ended up marrying him.

My father who is from the south was very opposed to it, so my parents didn't attend the wedding, though the rest of us did and had no problem with it.

Though the marriage didn't last long, and she's remarried twice since (both white guys..so much for the "once you go black you never go back" cliche) it opened my eyes up to the degree of opposition against interracial couples.

I had a brother marry a Korean and another married a girl from Guam and my parents initially gave them both problems about it.

However, I've had many, if not mostly black friends during my life and found that there is a lot of opposition to interracial dating and marriage in the black community as well.

I think prefering one's own race is a natural tendency and doesn't necessarily mean that much otherwise.

18 posted on 01/10/2004 7:40:18 PM PST by Jorge
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I dated a woman who was half black. We didn't get any grief here in CT or back home in Il when I went to visit the folks. However, we took a trip to Germany and should have seen the stares I got there. I look very German. It was like I was being accused of heresy.
22 posted on 01/10/2004 7:47:06 PM PST by raybbr
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Interesting. Over the years, I've had black male friends who dated (and some who married) whites, and black female friends who dated (and one who married) whites. All of the said the dating was fine, being married was hard because of attitudes they encountered and how tough it was on the children. Uniformly, they said the biggest attitude problems were from the black side.

My own limited experience bears this out. During college and grad school I dated two black girls and, later when I was in the Army, I dated a Commanche girl. In all cases, these were relationships that developed out of mutual interests and some natural attraction. In the first instance, during the summer her parents found out and forbade her from seeing me, in the case of the second black girl, she was confronted by a number of other black girls on campus and threatened by them. With the Commanche girl, I'd been seeing her in and around the small city where I was stationed for a couple of months, when she asked me come out to her place to pick her up (she lived with her parents). It was with some shock that I found the tribal police wouldn't even let me on the reservation, and that her father had forbidden her to see 'that white army officer'. He even made her quit her job in town to work out on the reservation.

It's very funny, I hear all the stories of white families reacting badly, ala Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, but what I've actually seen has been the opposite.

33 posted on 01/10/2004 8:18:29 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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Its funny, I guess we tend to attract people who are similar to us in outlook, but its hard for me to imagine there is anyone left who cares about "inter-racial dating". I know there are people out there who are obsessed by race, certainly the Dems are obsessed by it, but I don't hang around people like that so its easy to forget.

When I run up against someone who is honestly racist, and you do from time to time, it always hits me like cold water in the face.

Such people always assume that everyone thinks like they do. If you tell them otherwise, they are sure you are lying, they can't imagine that there are people uninterested in their number one obsession.

One such guy asked me, as if to close the subject, what I would think if my daughter dated someone outside her race... I had to stop and think, it surprised me anyone would even think to ask such a question. My daughter is divorced from a man of dubious morals, my main concern (and hers) is that she find a man of character.

One of the things I most enjoyed in the time I worked overseas is that for a while you get to forget about race completely. This may in fact be a part of why I do forget about it unless someone forces me to focus. Each country has its own kinds of bigotry, but I am outside that also, so it is like a load removed from my shoulders. Once the load is gone I don't know why anyone would want to take it on again.

"Jerk" has no color. I have always said that "jerk" should have its own passport and its own homeland, so the rest of us can go on our way in peace.
58 posted on 01/10/2004 9:28:54 PM PST by marron
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I'm a white male. My brother has a black wife and they have had children. My family was opposed to the union, but once he made the decision and went through with the marriage they all supported him. Their reason for being opposed to the relationship wasn't at all motivated by racism or bigotry, but by a desire to see him make the most of his future and children's future as possible. They said that there are still very strong social stigmas attached to interracial relationships that would cause him, her, and their children undue added pressure and disadvantages.

We have a great time at family gatherings and my wife regularly goes on "outings" with his. My brother and his wife have both said that the concern that my family voiced over their relationship was valid. We accept them, respect them, and love them - many others certainly do not. For that reason, I would voice the same concerns to my own children in the same situation. While there is some opposition to interracial relationships based on hatred, I would say that far more opposition is based on simply wanting to avoid the whole sneering, pointing, rejecting, screaming crowd.
59 posted on 01/10/2004 9:33:58 PM PST by Jaysun (If a cluttered desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what is the significance of a clean desk?)
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I ask because the statistics suggest that many may lament the failings of a racist culture but few want to withstand the approbation when racial boundaries are crossed.

Huh? Diane must be a public school product.

60 posted on 01/10/2004 9:34:48 PM PST by cynwoody
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The folks in this group keep falling into using the adopted rhetoric of the Democratic Party. What do you mean by black or white? The whole concept of race is predicated upon nothing but ignorance and hate. The Democrats have used this false premise to enslave, lynch, and segregate. There is one race, the human race.
63 posted on 01/10/2004 9:38:57 PM PST by AUH2OY2K
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Why is there a bias against interracial dating, especially between blacks and whites? Almost certainly, people with that bias are people who have no close friends of other races. And unfortunately that's still a sizeable population. Once you have spent time with each other, cried on each other's shoulders, worshipped together at church, or played games long into the night at each other's homes, somehow the idea of their daughter dating your son becomes a non-issue.

The issue is larger than race. It is tribal. Can your date become your mate ? Do you share the same faith and family values ? Do you treat each other with mutual respect befitting the parent of your children ?

If the answer to these questions is no, then race, language, nationality, or faith accentuates the gulf between the couple not to be.

66 posted on 01/10/2004 9:41:42 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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The Asian population intermixes with any race and this barely raises an eyebrow

Now that is REALLY rich.

67 posted on 01/10/2004 9:43:54 PM PST by gaijin
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> The blond Ivory Girl smile and blue eyes of Tiger Woods' future wife no doubt raised the ire of many who wondered why such a powerful role model to black youth couldn't embrace his own race. <

Shows you how dumb the writer is: Tiger is multi-racial himself, more Thai than black, since Earl (his father) has both American Indian and (I believe) Caucasian blood in his veins.
84 posted on 01/10/2004 10:12:56 PM PST by jaime1959
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I could be perfectly happy with mixed-race grandkids but I can't stomach the thought of having Carrot Top marry my daughter and having grandkids that look like him.

Am I a "hairist"?


90 posted on 01/10/2004 10:26:29 PM PST by Polybius
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Racial diversity and Homogenizing the gene pool.

How do you do both ?
92 posted on 01/10/2004 10:28:38 PM PST by festus
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My older brother is married to a second generation Chinese woman. My younger brother is married to a second generation Mexican woman. My sister has a black son. Me, I married a white girl - I'm the racist in my family, I guess.
112 posted on 01/11/2004 12:08:38 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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No bias from this freeper. I've seen numerous mixed marriages in my time. For me, being divorced I have no interest in dating anyone right now (I'm 43), but if I was date anyone I wouldn't narrow my search to white women. Matter of fact I've always been fond of asian women. While I've seen some asian women that make cows look prettier by comparison, some of them are "knock 'em down drop dead gorgeous."
122 posted on 01/11/2004 8:25:31 AM PST by pctech
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