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To: Swordmaker
Excuse me, Bush... on second thought DON'T excuse me... but exactly what access level does a new installation of Windows, on either an old or new computer, present to the user at completion? Oh, Administrator Access... thought so.

End users don't install and configure their own Windows boxes. Dell or Gateway or Compaq/HP or Alienware does.
123 posted on 01/11/2004 11:50:35 PM PST by Bush2000 (tro)
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To: Swordmaker
End users don't install and configure their own Windows boxes. Dell or Gateway or Compaq/HP or Alienware does.

And here's the proof: MSFT Fourth Quarter 2003 Earnings Report

Allow me to break it down for you. Microsoft makes $2.53 billion from Windows sales -- and $2.49 billion of those sales originate in the OEM channel (ie. Dell, Gateway, etc). So OEMs account for 98.41% of all Windows installations; and hence, practically no end user installs Windows on his or her own box..

Thus, we can conclude that any security issues relating to user account configuration are caused by OEM failure to configure the boxes correctly. Game over.
124 posted on 01/12/2004 12:24:26 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000; antiRepublicrat
End users don't install and configure their own Windows boxes. Dell or Gateway or Compaq/HP or Alienware does.

Why don't you move into the REAL WORLD, Bush.

In the real world users are handed a box that boots into ADMINISTRATOR ACCESS and very few users are sophisticated enough to restrict their own default access.

In the real world Windows installers install Internet Explorer, Outlook, and a host of other applications that 99.9999% of Windows users think is part of their computer''s suite of WINDOWS software.

In the real world, Microsoft installers finish the job with the Messenger Service turned ON... so they and others can pop ads into your browser.

In the real world, Bush, many people buy an off-the-shelf upgrade so they can bring an older computer into the wonderful world of Windows XP.

In the real world, some even buy full installation versions so they can build their own boxes.

In the real world people want to install and USE software rather than just sit there and admire the Kernal of Windows doing nothing so they can be totally secure.

129 posted on 01/12/2004 1:00:37 AM PST by Swordmaker
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