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To: Swordmaker
End users don't install and configure their own Windows boxes. Dell or Gateway or Compaq/HP or Alienware does.

And here's the proof: MSFT Fourth Quarter 2003 Earnings Report

Allow me to break it down for you. Microsoft makes $2.53 billion from Windows sales -- and $2.49 billion of those sales originate in the OEM channel (ie. Dell, Gateway, etc). So OEMs account for 98.41% of all Windows installations; and hence, practically no end user installs Windows on his or her own box..

Thus, we can conclude that any security issues relating to user account configuration are caused by OEM failure to configure the boxes correctly. Game over.
124 posted on 01/12/2004 12:24:26 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
So the revenues are 2.53 Billion... 2.49 Billion of which is OEM sales. Great, good for them. That still leaves .04 Billion, $40 million X 4 quarters, Call it $150 Million (to account for the growth in sales) for a year that was generated by sales outside of OEM. Assuming a $100 average wholesale price to the jobber/retailer (It's probably less) that translates into 1.5 million people who will self install Windows.

Of course, according to you, everyone of them is "practically no end user."

Then of course, Bush, there are the millions of users who aren't upgrading and are still using '98, 2000, NT, ME, etc. that are still Windows users at risk.

130 posted on 01/12/2004 1:18:21 AM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Bush2000
So OEMs account for 98.41% of all Windows installations; and hence, practically no end user installs Windows on his or her own box..

Considering that Microsoft likely gets 50% of the end retail price for Windows XP, that's between 800,000 users (home edition upgrade) and 266,000 users (professional full purchase). Based on what I see on the shelves, probably 600,000 users got Windows from Microsoft in the fourth quarter, 2+ million last year. Doesn't sound like "practically no end user" to me, since we're talking over two million more poorly configured computers out of the box waiting to be exploited.

139 posted on 01/12/2004 9:00:02 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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