Posted on 01/10/2004 9:35:28 AM PST by doug from upland
FReepers, I would appreciate some research help regarding Paul Fray, whom America knows as the FJB. I can still picture Hillary at an outside podium with Nita Lowey by her side denying Jewish slurs. Her true believers, of course, believed her.
Fray passed a polygraph and many are convinced that he is telling the truth. Former trooper Larry Patterson appeared on the Sean Hannity show to affirm that he had heard her use Jewish slurs and the N word. Patterson says that there are other witnesses to those events. We need to find those witnesses.
If a person uses a racial or ethnic slur a few times in anger during their lifetime, it does not make them a racist. If caught, however, most people would admit they made a mistake and don't use that language anymore. They would be remorseful. Not Hillary. Her first instinct is to lie. She did, and we need to prove it to everyone.
Please post some appropriate links here about the FJB-gate. Also, can anyone get me contact numbers for Larry Patterson and Paul Fray? Thanks.
(Also, please help with more info about Peter Paul and post on the link above.)
Jerry Oppenheimer's new book STATE OF A UNION: INSIDE THE COMPLEX MARRIAGE OF BILL AND Hillary CLINTON ---
In one particularly shocking passage in the book, Oppenheimer quotes a campaign official who describes an angry attack by Hillary in which she screams at him, "You f***ing Jew bastard!"
Two sourced eyewitnesses confirmed to Oppenheimer that they heard the verbal assault.
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http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2000/slur.html
"Fray was the target of the alleged 1974 '(expletive) Jew bastard' comment. As an Associated Press story points out, Fray 'can no longer practice law because someone paid him to alter a court document and he surrendered his law license to the Arkansas Supreme Court in 1980. He suffered a cerebral hemorrhage that led to seizures, addiction to prescription pain killers, erratic behavior and memory loss, according to court records. He wrote a letter to Clinton begging her forgiveness for saying things about her 'without factual foundation.'"
[continuing]: "NewsMax says nothing about Fray's letter or his disbarment, but briefly mentions his memory problems, buried deep in a story and cited as evidence that "the White House and its media allies" was trying to 'discredit' Fray."
This David Limbaugh article has a number of leads that might offer possibilities: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/david/limbaugh071900.asp
A visibly angry and emotional Mrs. Clinton questioned the credibility of Fray and the others cited in the book. Her campaign released copies of a handwritten letter, dated July 1, 1997, that Fray allegedly wrote Mrs. Clinton.
In the letter, Fray states: ''I have wronged you. I ask for your forgiveness because I did say things against you, and called you names, not only to your face - but behind your back ... names that are unmentionable.''
Fray adds: ''At one time in my life, I would say things without thinking, without factual foundation ... I beg your forgiveness.''
Mrs. Clinton said she was releasing the letter to show that ''there's a history of these kinds of charges coming from the people in question. They've been false in the past. They're false now.''
She wouldn't comment what sort of statements Fray was apologizing for in the letter.
In Monday's New York Times, Fray acknowledged writing a letter of forgiveness to Mrs. Clinton but said he would have to see it first to determine if what she released was what he wrote.
The Clinton campaign also released a statement from the president in which he said, in part: ''I was there on election night in 1974 and this charge is simply not true. It did not happen.''
'Concerned Citizens' for Hillary
By Susan Jones
July 20, 2000
(CNSNews.com) - "It wasn't true, it didn't happen and I'm not going to allow it to distract from the real issues of this campaign," Hillary Rodham Clinton said Wednesday at a news conference in Albany, New York - referring to an anti-Semitic remark she reportedly made 26 years ago.
A new book claims Hillary let loose on her husband's campaign manager the night Bill Clinton lost his bid for a seat in the US House of Representatives in 1974. Her remark - as described by former campaign manager Paul Frey - has been the fodder of newspaper reports and talk radio since Sunday, when Hillary called a remarkable press conference at her home in Chappaqua, to deny making the alleged Jewish slur.
As talk continues to swirl about Hillary's temper, what she may or may not have said, and whether it really matters after all these years - her campaign just did something that's also raising eyebrows.
An email message written by Karen Adler -- Hillary's point person on Jewish issues -- urges members of Hillary's "Jewish Advisory Group" to pose as "concerned citizens" and call reporters who are covering the Senate race for Jewish newspapers.
The email's subject line reads, "Rapid Response to Charges of Anti-Semitism." The text says, "It is important that you do not say you are calling because the campaign asked you to, but because you are outraged with what was said about her.
"The most important thing is to let them know that you know Hillary and you know that she would never make these kinds of anti-Semitic or racist comments."
The memo also includes a series of "talking points" to help Hillary's "concerned citizens" refute the allegation. During the Bill Clinton sex scandal, much was made of the fact that Monica Lewinsky offered her friend Linda Tripp "talking points" in a memo Lewinsky claimed to have written.
Wire services report that a spokeswoman for Hillary, when questioned about the "call reporters" memo, said only that the campaign was "gratified by the outpouring of support" they have received since the charge came to light.
A spokesman for Rep. Rick Lazio, Hillary's Republican challenger for the US Senate seat from New York, called the Clinton campaign memo "outrageous."
Dan McLagan is quoted as saying, "Her credibility has suffered irreparable damage today and increasingly, New Yorkers have to wonder if they can trust Hillary Clinton."
On Sunday, Hillary Rodham Clinton received a taste of such tactics. In a 15-minute news conference outside her home in Chappaqua, New York, Mrs. Clinton denied calling her husband's campaign manager, Paul Fray, a "Jew bastard" the night Bill Clinton lost his bid to represent Arkansas in Congress in 1974.
"In have in the past certainly, maybe, called somebody a name," Hillary told reporters. "But I have never used an ethnic, racial, anti-Semitic, bigoted, discriminatory or prejudiced accusation against anybody. "I've never thought it," she said.
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