Posted on 01/08/2004 5:25:19 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice
Well Freepers our President has sold us up the river and hopefully this is a wake up call to conservatives. The guest worker program is a DISASTER waiting to happen. One of President Reagan's mistakes in 1986 was to give blanket amnesty to illegals prior to sealing up the border and overhauling INS. It was stated that by doing this it would curb and put an end to illegal immigration. Since then it has doubled. Now we are seeing the same thing all over again.
O'Reilly pulled current numbers from the census bureau and foun the following. It costs this country 20 billion dollars a year in illegal immigration. 35% of LEGAL immigrants are on welfare or receive some form of government assistance. Like O'Reilly said if I were a Mexican living in Mexico I would be on the next bus here to America. When is America going to wake up and understand that current immigration brings unskilled, uneducated workers who NEED government assistance. Do they want to work? Yes and no. Yes there is no doubt about it that those who wish to work bust their butts in working but for below average wages. This myth that they pay taxes is also false. Those in the lower tax brackets pay no federal income taxes. Most have no health coverage and use hospitals for common illnesses. Guess who picks up the tab? I say also no they do not want to work because current numbers would support this, the 35% LEGAL immigrants currently on welfare. O'Reilly also stated that Vicente Fox is probably jumping for joy over this. He gets to dump his unskilled poor labor force on us and then reap the rewards when these people dump money back into his economy. It is a win win for this guy. I still do not understand why America appeases this guy.
This myth that immigrant workers take jobs the rest of Americans would not is totally false. Remember the great depression in the 20's? A time in which American workers were killing each other to find work? There is also a myth that immigrants are paying their share of taxes. This is also false. Illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. Furthermore, of those immigrants, LEGAL immigrants cost this country more in services rendered than what they put into the system. To save myself making such a broad accusation without proof I will provide you links of these facts. I will first provide you a quote from this website and then you may click on the link to read the website further. "For instance, in 1996 legal immigration alone cost Floridians $6 billion, up 77% from 1992. Legal immigration cost Texans $7 billion, New Yorkers $14 billion and Californians an amazing $28 billion. These are the compounded costs of Public Schools, Bilingual Education, Medicaid, AFDC, Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, Housing Assistance, Criminal Justice, as well as job loss by Americans and other programs, for a total cost to American taxpayers of $136 billion dollars." http://www.carryingcapacity.org/100000.html
I will provide you with one more quote and link. I hope that you take these facts seriously. "research suggests that "between 40 and 50 percent of wage-loss among low-skilled Americans is due to the immigration of low-skilled workers. Some native workers lose not just wages but their jobs through immigrant competition. An estimated 1,880,000 American workers are displaced from their jobs every year by immigration; the cost for providing welfare and assistance to these Americans is over $15 billion a year." http://www.cairco.org/econ/econ.html
As a solution we need to make abled body Americans currently on the government dole (welfare) take those jobs that people claim only illegal immigrants will take. Our entire INS dept. needs an overhaul. We should start mass deportation of those immigrants that do not belong here. Many would say that we do not have the money for this. This is not true. Stop services, it is that simple. Stop the medical care, stop the welfare, stop other related services and dump it into immigration reform, border agents backed up by the National Guard, and deportation. My tax dollars are going to people that 1)Do not belong here and 2)Going to those that have been placed into a legal status because the defunct INS gives legal status to those that have nothing to offer this country in the way of professional services or real job production. For example; remember that LEGAL citizen that came from Europe, I believe he may have been Croatian, who lived in California? He killed his child some 3 years ago and placed the child into a dumpster. He then wrote to police where they could find the child. Want to know what this legal citizens' profession was? He was an unemployed shoe repairman. How was this individual granted legal status? Was this a man that was considered a contributor to society? Because of current immigration policy, these are the types of individuals that my tax dollars pay for.
I encourage ALL to write their Congressmen and Senators. I already have. This is the collective end to America as we know it.
Under the Senate proposal I linked you to, it has all the details. There is on bright spot on the horizon, the House bill is surprisingly sponsored by Tancredo. After a quick view of the text of this version, all I can say is "WOW", he seems to cover all the bases and then some, including placing the military at the border.
And you came to this conclusion how? Without reading the text of the proposed legislation? I think that the time you spend bashing a program you know nothing about would be better spent reviewing the text of the current proposals I have linked to and writing your Congresscritter about any problems you may have with the existing text.
Some things are unexplainable.
How about, it was a quote from Pat Buchanans book "The Death of the West", and in reply to an earlier "Emitter" post.
REQUIRED PROVISION OF HEALTH INSURANCE- An employer of a nonimmigrant described in section 101(a)(15)(H) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (as amended by section 210 of this Act) shall provide such nonimmigrant with health insurance that meets existing minimum Federal and State requirements, as applicable.
Also of special interest to most folks on this forum:
SPECIAL RULE ON CITIZENSHIP AT BIRTH FOR CHILDREN OF H NONIMMIGRANTS- Notwithstanding title III of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401 et seq.), or any other law, a child born in the United States to a parent who is a nonimmigrant described in section 101(a)(15)(H) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (as amended by section 210 of this Act) shall not be a national or citizen of the United States at birth unless the other parent is a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence.I suggest we back Tancredo's version, it is MUCH better.
The 108th congress is going to be fun to watch!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/usbudget/blueprint/bud14.html
From 2-28-01
The Administration is committed to removing those who have entered the country illegally and to detain criminal aliens.
SEC. 101. SENSE OF CONGRESS REGARDING USE OF MILITARY TO GUARD LAND BORDERS OF THE UNITED STATES.It is the sense of Congress that the President should deploy United States military troops to perform support functions along the southern and northern United States land borders until such time as additional Border Patrol agents authorized under this Act are hired and deployed.
SEC. 102. USE OF ARMY AND AIR FORCE TO SECURE THE BORDER.
Section 1385 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after `execute the laws' the following: `other than at or near a border of the United States in order to prevent aliens, terrorists, and drug smugglers from entering the United States'.
SEC. 103. INCREASE IN FULL-TIME BORDER PATROL AGENTS.
Subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall increase the number of full-time Border Patrol agents to 20,000 by fiscal year 2008. There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary for additional resources for support personnel and equipment for the activities of the new Border Patrol personnel.
SEC. 104. INCREASE IN FULL-TIME BCBP IMMIGRATION INSPECTORS. Subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall increase by 2,000 the number of full-time Bureau of Customs and Border Protection immigration inspectors by the end of fiscal year 2006. There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary for such additional resources for support personnel and equipment for inspections as may be necessary to implement such increase in inspectors.
SEC. 105. INCREASE IN FULL-TIME 1811-SERIES BICE SPECIAL AGENTS.
Subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall increase the number of full-time 1811-series Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement special agents devoted to the immigration function to 4,500 by the end of the fiscal year 2006. There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary for such additional resources for support personnel, training, equipment, and case funds for investigations as may be necessary to implement such increase in the number of special agents.
SEC. 106. INCREASE IN FULL-TIME DETENTION AND REMOVAL OFFICERS.
Subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall increase by 2,000 the number of full-time detention and removal officers by the end of the fiscal year 2006. There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary for additional resources for support personnel and equipment for removals to implement such increase in personnel.
The legal ones, maybe. You obviously don't live in an area that has been flooded with illegals. They are not honorable, (crime has increased tremendously since they began to invade. Bars went up on doors and windows. Graffiti and abandoned shopping carts are everywhere. Just about everyone I know has had their cars stolen or vandalized. Trust me. You would NOT want your wife, daughter, sister, or mother to walk or even drive through an illegal alien neighborhood.)
Conservative? HA! Not judging by the amount collecting welfare, WIC, food stamps, etc. Besides, conservatives believe in obeying the law.
Family loving??? Is that why so many Mexican men abandon their wives and children? They're not all sending money home, either. On the contrary, many leave their wives and kids to starve in Mexico, while they take up with a new woman and start fathering anchor babies here in the states.
What a slap in the face to the legal immigrants of the past, who truly were honorable, conservative and family loving, to compare them to the lawless leeches who are invading now.
Read his remarks yourself and see what he actually said:
Yes it is. And FYI, Bush clearly stated that he would send his recommendations for a guest worker program to Congress and they would be the ones to decide what program would be appropriate, he merely laid out the outline, not the specifics, so I wouldn't be too harsh on him, he just wants to get the ball rolling.
That is why it is so important to get behind Tancredo's bill by writing your Congresscritter and spreading the word for others to do the same.
Disgust over what? A proposal that you have not even read yet? The knee-jerk reactions on this board are ridiculous. Check out Tancredo's version of the bill. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. As I stated to another poster above, Bush merely outlined the proposal, he is leaving it up to Congress on the specifics, he just wants to get the ball rolling to get things under control ASAP.
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