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A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day....01-08-04....Terror Alert Goes Orange: Is America Any Safer?
JohnHuang2; Aquamarine; Billie | JohnHuang2

Posted on 01/07/2004 9:17:04 PM PST by Aquamarine

Edited on 01/07/2004 9:53:39 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: LadyX
Did you read my post earlier at #71?

That tells you where I stand on this particular issue and how I feel about President Bush.

81 posted on 01/08/2004 10:54:20 AM PST by Pippin (Bush still has MY vote!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Regarding Afghanistan, Democrats say Osama still exists even if we haven't found him.

WhoooHoo! Atta boy JH2. If that SOB is making tapes, then he is getting them to Al Jwhatever TV somehow. Or else he's sitting right in the studio. Whether the transfer is direct or by courier, once we got one the jig is up. If the Al Jwhatever press is being "escorted in" then start with the enablers. Get him or get whomever is making those tapes. Tic-toc it doesn't stop. I'm sure the US Intel is doing everything it can right now.

Still I can't help but woonder if it could it be possible that all involved parties have an interest in keeping the boogeyman alive? Some to believe in perpetuating a Jihad, and some to think of providing time and cover for "nation building". I don't know, I just look forward to it being over soon. Hopefully very soon.

82 posted on 01/08/2004 11:26:33 AM PST by Kudsman (LIE= ""We have to exert all of our efforts militarily" Hillary Nov. 2003)
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To: Aquamarine; JohnHuang2
WMG's!!! HAHAHAHA. This is too good. Great job by both of you. Congrats Aqua on your raise.
83 posted on 01/08/2004 11:40:35 AM PST by Kudsman (LIE= ""We have to exert all of our efforts militarily" Hillary Nov. 2003)
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To: The Mayor
Hello Mayor. I do look forward to your readings that you link. I compare your NIV version to my NAB one and note the similarities and differences. It is quite interesting. Sometimes. To me. Thanks for what you do.
84 posted on 01/08/2004 11:57:51 AM PST by Kudsman (LIE= ""We have to exert all of our efforts militarily" Hillary Nov. 2003)
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To: The Thin Man; LadyX
All I ask is for a simple apology.


85 posted on 01/08/2004 12:04:16 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: Pippin
Hi Pippin. I have some problems with this immigration policy also. The American's whose ancestor's settled this country have to pay Income Tax because the law says so and if you don't believe it just see what the IRS has to say about it. Have seen many a people ruined over not paying their taxes, as the penalties pile up. Why should the Mexican's be allowed to break the immigration laws and then even be rewarded by receiving social security?

They say no one else will work for 5 dollars an hour. I say raise the pay, most of those employer's are millionaires who can well afford better pay. The problem with this country is it forgot how to be faithful to itself.
The really guilty party is the employer's of these illegals...it's like modern day slavery based on greed as always.

I'll still vote for Bush, there is no way I'd vote for a democrat.

86 posted on 01/08/2004 12:24:44 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Calpernia
Thanks Cal. Mooooooooo :)
87 posted on 01/08/2004 12:28:03 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: dixie sass
Hi Dixie! We'll be here when you get back...at least some of us will. :)
88 posted on 01/08/2004 12:29:27 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: jwfiv
"Dean's record in Vermont is so well hidden, even Hans Blix wouldn't find it. (Not even with both Hans!)" Bwahahahaha.

Makes some laugh and some groan. LOL!

Hi JW!

89 posted on 01/08/2004 12:31:19 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: All; JohnHuang2; Billie; Aquamarine; dutchess; ohioWfan; dansangel; MEG33; The Mayor; Mama_Bear; ...
Afternoon, John, Aqua, Billie, everyone!

WOW, John! You really sliced and diced 'em today!! He, he....they deserved every cut:-))

90 posted on 01/08/2004 12:31:20 PM PST by Molly Pitcher (I miss Bob Bartley....)
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To: Kudsman
Thanks!
91 posted on 01/08/2004 12:34:24 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Molly Pitcher; LadyX; Pippin; Calpernia; jwfiv; All
Hi Molly!

Have to go now, y'all hold the fort down.......

92 posted on 01/08/2004 12:36:24 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Pippin; LadyX; Billie; Aquamarine; JohnHuang2; MeeknMing; JustAmy; ST.LOUIE1; Dubya; Diver Dave; ...
Pip, I was just as mad as anybody over our President's refusal to face this insanity of illegal immigration.
It IS a BIG issue to me, but once again I misjudged our President.
I could see no evidence that he was giving any thought about how to correct the problems; I was wrong.

As I stated on a thread yesterday, a lot of freepers remind me of lemmings.
When one jumps over the cliff the others are bound and determined to follow.

The whole transcript of the President's speech concerning illegal immigration was on a thread yesterday, but I'll bet not one person out of ten who read it did so with an open mind.

One problem that exists now is that most freepers are too young to remember the old Bracero Program, from which the President's program is patterned.
It worked very well, and I've often wondered why it was discontinued.
Employers would request a certain number of illegals to work for a certain period of time.
In my dad's case, he requested 150 to work for a period of three months on the cotton farm in West Texas.
He provided for their welfare and was responsible for them for the duration of their stay.
When their stay was finished, the trucks picked them up and took them back to Mexico.

The only difference I see in the President's program is that he is going to give them a chance to apply for citizenship and become a citizen the hard way, albeit from the back of the line.
I think that is a good addition.

I'm probably one of the few on FR who has switched from being an avid antagonist about illegal immigration to applauding his recent program.
He's getting a lot of flak from his opponents over this program, but I expect more from FReepers.
We have no political agenda except to promote Conservative principles.
I think this program fits our ideals, and I will stand behind the President with this the same way I've stood behind him in his war effort.

Thank you, God, for George W. Bush!

93 posted on 01/08/2004 12:45:09 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Pippin
Amen !


94 posted on 01/08/2004 2:15:45 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Howie Dean in the South !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/IowaRatsLastMealNewDeal.JPG)
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To: Pippin; Billie; Mama_Bear; dansangel; dutchess; Aquamarine; SpookBrat; LadyX; nicmarlo
The Texas Dodocrat:

Remap could create an endangered species -
Texas' white Democratic Reps struggle for survival


95 posted on 01/08/2004 2:18:28 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Howie Dean in the South !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/IowaRatsLastMealNewDeal.JPG)
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To: TexasCowboy
Thank you, God, for George W. Bush!

Amen to that !

And thank you, sir, for your post ! I need to read that transcript of his speech.


96 posted on 01/08/2004 2:38:56 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Howie Dean in the South !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/IowaRatsLastMealNewDeal.JPG)
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To: TexasCowboy; JohnHuang2; MEG33; Dubya; Pippin; All; Billie; Mama_Bear; dansangel; dutchess; ...
Thoughtful analysis, TC...
Yes, when we were youngsters, all immigration was on the condition that each person must have a sponsor.
That person had to assume responsibility for housing and work, and their adjustment to the new way of life here and their burden on all of us.
If unsuited, unhappy, committed crimes or did not stay employed, they could be returned to their homeland. We thus were spared most of today's endless problems with illegal entrants.

In today's lessened morality, there are many persons who for a 'fee' would 'sponsor' workers, pocketing the 'entrance fee' and looking the other way as to where they went or what they did.
It would require an enormous new area of government to oversee and enforce the conduct of such 'bosses,' but still, that is perhaps better than the sieve the borders have become.

One huge segment for concern is the many who come here on visas - many as students - who quietly move into a life here and no one ever follows up to determine where they currently live or if they returned upon expiration of the visa.

One observation I made is for at least two decades, small nonproductive motels all over America have been quietly purchased by foreigners; quite a few of Middle Eastern descent. The motels usually have no restaurant in them, lessening outside traffic that might notice the users of the rooms.
It therefore is possible for 'illegals' to reside there, going out regularly to menial jobs.
Again, not noticed by the clientele of these non-luxury, inexpensive motel rooms looking for a 'cheap' one night stay on their journey.

Oh, yes - could they not house small cells of potential terrorists, patiently waiting for an opportunity and/or a signal from their backers to create havoc with large strikes, or many small ones all over an area???

They easily are thus already in place in virtually every fair-sized city in America....no need to look for them to arrive on airplanes or ships, already all over the United States.

They know most Americans do not even 'see' insignificant them, as we go about work and the pursuit of wealth and gluttony.

America in general is completely asleep at the wheel, unable to see the forest for the trees.....

97 posted on 01/08/2004 3:16:32 PM PST by LadyX (((( To God give praise and honor !! ))))
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To: LadyX; TexasCowboy
Something else that all three of us can relate to is the First Responders who are out all night, responding to the DUI wrecks and fights that these illegals get into. There's many a story I could tell about the trouble that's caused by criminals who have no legal right to even be here.
The crime is so bad in Mexico that most have bars on their windows and won't walk the streets alone. It will come to that here one day if we don't start to weed out the criminals through legal immigration.
98 posted on 01/08/2004 4:03:06 PM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine
ty, Aqua....hope you had a good day today.
99 posted on 01/08/2004 4:23:00 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Aquamarine; LadyX; MeeknMing; All
For those who might have missed the transcript of the President's speech:

President Bush Proposes New Temporary Worker Program

Bottom line is that someone has to be responsible for these temporary workers.
We can't continue letting them blend into our society with no accountability.

I look on the President's plan as a stop gap measure which had to be done.
It's like the little boy sticking his finger in the dam to stop the flow.
Now we can concentrate on what to do about the water that's already accumulated.

100 posted on 01/08/2004 5:08:49 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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