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US Security Needs Anger Some Europeans
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 1-8-2004 | Jill Lawless

Posted on 01/07/2004 5:29:17 PM PST by blam

U.S. Security Needs Anger Some Europeans

Thursday January 8, 2004 12:16 AM

By JILL LAWLESS

Associated Press Writer

LONDON (AP) - Fears of a new airborne terrorist attack have brought heightened tensions, grounded flights - and created turbulence for U.S.-European relations.

Some European nations have balked at the United States' tough new aviation security measures, which include armed guards on aircraft and preflight scrutiny of passenger lists. Airlines, hit by rising security demands, want governments to handle part of the cost.

``There are tensions within Europe on how to handle U.S. requests,'' said Philip Butterworth-Hayes, editor of Jane's Aircraft Components. ``Politically, it's a complete nightmare for Europe.''

Meanwhile, France is searching for an Afghan on a U.S. list of suspected terrorists because someone with his name failed to board a Christmas Eve flight across the Atlantic that was canceled amid security fears, officials said Wednesday.

A passenger surnamed Hai was ticketed for Air France Flight 68 to Los Angeles but did not show up, French officials said. They said investigators have not yet established whether the passenger is the Abdou Hai on a U.S. terrorism watch list or someone with the same name.

The name was one reason why security on trans-Atlantic flights was stepped up over the holiday season. In all, six Air France flights between Paris and Los Angeles on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day were canceled amid concerns members of the al-Qaida terrorist network might try to board planes.

Investigators said Abdou Hai is not known to French intelligence, and France's judiciary has not opened an investigation into him, meaning he is not now suspected of wrongdoing.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, asked at a news conference Wednesday if there was a single potential terrorist loose who is a source of grave concern, said he was ``not aware of any one particular individual who is loose.''

But Justice Minister Dominique Perben confirmed Wednesday that French and European authorities were searching for someone who failed to show up for an Air France flight.

``We are looking for someone, but I can't say more,'' Perben told RMC radio. ``What's important when someone doesn't take a plane is to know why he didn't take it,'' he added.

The Air France flights were canceled after U.S. intelligence told their French counterparts that al-Qaida operatives would try to board the planes over Christmas, French officials have said.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, many airlines around the world have acceded to U.S. requests, installing bulletproof cockpit doors on aircraft and agreeing to share passenger lists with U.S. authorities. But for some, the demand for armed sky marshals on flights to the United States was a step too far.

While a European Union-wide aviation safety agency is being established, each member country has been free to take its own position on sky marshals.

The Irish government, which took over the rotating presidency of the European Union on Jan. 1, said Wednesday it was organizing a meeting of EU aviation chiefs in Brussels, Belgium, next week to discuss the U.S. request.

On Dec. 29, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security announced that airlines would be required to place armed law enforcement officers on flights to the United States ``where necessary.''

The announcement came after U.S. authorities raised their terrorism alert to orange, the second-highest level, and increased security surrounding international flights. More than a dozen flights to the United States on British Airways, Aeromexico and Air France have been canceled or delayed since New Year's Eve because of security fears.

British Transport Secretary Alistair Darling called the deployment of sky marshals ``responsible and prudent'' and said passengers would have to get used to increased security. France and Germany, alongside nations such as Canada and Australia, also agreed to the U.S. request, with Germany saying it has had sky marshals on some flights for more than two years.

But civil aviation authorities in Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Portugal all said they would not allow armed marshals to fly and would instead cancel flights if there was a strong suspicion of a planned attack.

Denmark's Transportation Minister, Flemming Hansen, told the Politiken newspaper that ``putting armed guards on passenger planes is the same as saying that the terrorists have won.''

Package tour operator Thomas Cook, which operates charter flights between London and Orlando, Fla., also said it would not accept sky marshals, and pilot organizations in Britain, Spain and other countries expressed strong reservations.

``We do not accept that it is necessary to introduce armed officials on to aircraft,'' Conor Nolan, director of safety for the Irish Airline Pilots Association, was quoted as saying by the Irish Examiner newspaper. ``The aircraft should be the last place for security measures. They should have taken place on the ground before takeoff.''

Aviation expert Butterworth-Hayes said the trans-Atlantic disagreement ``partly comes from differences of culture, for example on the issue of arming pilots. The U.S. is much more bullish about that.''

Cost is also a factor. Heightened security measures since Sept. 11 have cost major airlines between $90 million and $180 million, according to aviation analyst Nick van den Brul of BN Paribas.

Sky marshals are not the first American demand to have met a mixed reception. In December, after months of negotiations, the European Union agreed to share flight passenger lists with U.S. authorities. But the EU won concessions to comply with European privacy rules, including an agreement to hold the data for 3 years rather than the 50 years originally proposed.

And on Wednesday the Australian airline Qantas bridled at a U.S. request that it discourage passengers from gathering in groups during flights to America. Australian Transport Minister John Anderson described the request as ``a little bit hard to handle.''

Darrin Kayser, a spokesman for the U.S. Transportation Security Administration, said Wednesday that passengers were free to wait in line for airplane bathrooms. But he said the agency had asked all airlines flying to the United States to discourage people from congregating on planes, possibly by making announcements to that effect before takeoff.

Other nations have been irked by the U.S. introduction of fingerprint scanning and photographing for visitors from all but 27 mostly European nations. Last week, Brazil began fingerprinting and photographing arriving Americans in retaliation.

On Tuesday, the Brazilian foreign minister met with the U.S. ambassador to ask that Brazilians be exempted from fingerprinting and that they ``be treated with dignity,'' according to a government statement.

David Learmount, an aviation expert with Flight International magazine, said U.S. authorities would have to accept a compromise on some of its security demands.

The effort against terrorism should be ``about people working together, not America bulldozing its way around, telling everyone what to do,'' he said.


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KEYWORDS: abdouhai; af68; afghan; airfrance; airlinesecurity; anger; europeans; france; hai; needs; security; shoebomb; terrorism; threats; us
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1 posted on 01/07/2004 5:29:18 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
``There are tensions within Europe on how to handle U.S. requests,'' said Philip Butterworth-Hayes, editor of Jane's Aircraft Components.>>

What part of 'comply or be shot out of the sky' don't they understand?
2 posted on 01/07/2004 5:33:12 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (the more things change...)
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To: blam
Message to the Euroweenies: it wasn't your buildings -and citizens - turned into rubble. Yet. Humor us.
3 posted on 01/07/2004 5:33:20 PM PST by Viking2002
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4 posted on 01/07/2004 5:34:40 PM PST by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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To: blam
""Some European nations have balked at the United States' tough new aviation security measures, which include armed guards on aircraft and preflight scrutiny of passenger lists.""

Tough!

Europe has been a second home for terrorism for far too long, and now they are paying the price for it. How many times does France and Germany come up in any discussion/report about individuals and groups linked to terrorism, including 9/11. The US has paid for their security since WWII, so let them bear the costs for THIS security threat they helped sow.
5 posted on 01/07/2004 5:36:35 PM PST by Jackson Brown
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To: blam
I can't tell you how it saddens and worries me that the Euroween Eurinals-- ahem-- folks from Europe are unhappy with our requirements. /sarcasm
6 posted on 01/07/2004 5:38:20 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: blam
The effort against terrorism should be ``about people working together, not America bulldozing its way around, telling everyone what to do,'' he said.

OK, but if you want to land in the US, or fly over it, you have to meet our standards.

7 posted on 01/07/2004 5:48:50 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: blam
Talk about being self centered! Hey Europe....if you don't like it....STAY HOME!
8 posted on 01/07/2004 5:49:30 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: blam
Investigators said Abdou Hai is not known to French intelligence...

OXYMORON ALERT!

9 posted on 01/07/2004 5:49:32 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Okay how about this as a security measure instead:

"The United States will regard any attack on US territory by an aircraft of a foriegn country as an ACT OF WAR. The United States will use any and all means of retaliation including use of it's strategic nuclear deterant, without further warning against the attacking country.
Have a nice day.


Maybe when Paris is a glassy crater the rest of the Euuroweanies will get the message. This is war and we are serious.
10 posted on 01/07/2004 5:50:09 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Viking2002
The Europeans aren't worried. After all, terrorists only attack Jews over there...until they run out of Jews.
11 posted on 01/07/2004 6:00:55 PM PST by skr (Pro-life from cradle to grave)
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To: Viking2002
Cry babies...


12 posted on 01/07/2004 6:02:09 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: blam
Are we really dodging bullets right now, or is this in part a way of getting the French to help us by helping themselves?

If the French gov't gets enough flack from its traveling citizens, likely far more important than your typical paysans, it may find a palatable way to ease the burden on itself...by stopping terrorists.

13 posted on 01/07/2004 6:03:08 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: blam
'Denmark's Transportation Minister, Flemming Hansen, told the Politiken newspaper that ``putting armed guards on passenger planes is the same as saying that the terrorists have won.'' '

Gee, I guess when you put police on the street it means criminals have won then...
14 posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:22 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Monti Cello
Wait to the French people on that cancled flight find out that the US saved their lives.

A little reality check.
15 posted on 01/07/2004 6:08:05 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: blam
..there are tensions within Europe on how to handle U.S. requests...

"Requests"??? Demands, is more like it. Here's a new insanity inflicted upon travelling citizens of America's staunchest ally, and prompted by Homeland Security chief Eddie Munster's most recent attack of paranoia:

Qantas passengers have been ordered not to queue outside toilets while making the 14-hour flight to and from the US. The directive was issued late yesterday by the US Transport and Security Administration, which is demanding pilots make a pre-flight announcement banning passengers from "congregating in groups around toilets or anywhere else in the aircraft". Flight attendants will be expected to police the toilets, including checking every two hours for "suspicious packages".

16 posted on 01/07/2004 6:16:02 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Arpege92
..if you don't like it....STAY HOME!...

Don't worry, we are. Haven't you seen the job loss figures in the US airline business, Arpege?

17 posted on 01/07/2004 6:17:31 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Kozak
..this is war and we are serious...

It's not war. It's regulation-for-its-own sake, gone mad. Compliance costs alone for Patriot Act financial regulations in the US are expected to be $11 billion.

18 posted on 01/07/2004 6:19:47 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Hey Europe, it's a new ballgame today. Get over it!
19 posted on 01/07/2004 6:29:54 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
"It's not war. It's regulation-for-its-own sake, gone mad."

Ummm....no it's not! It's war and if the Europeans don't want to follow OUR rules, then they can just stay home. It's up to us to protect ourselves....not Europe!
20 posted on 01/07/2004 6:32:50 PM PST by Arpege92
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