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W's Live Speech Thread
Fox News | 1-7-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: McGavin999
Did you see the very short interview Shepard Smith did with the INS point man to the WH...Shep asked him what happens to those who do not register...the INS guy said *they will have a certain amount of time to do so, and if they don't take advantage of it, they are going to be sorry they missed the chance*....there's more to this than meets the eye...more enforce of current laws.
981 posted on 01/07/2004 1:47:53 PM PST by mystery-ak (Mike...we are entering the home stretch)
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To: sinkspur
I agree with JD Hayworth, Tom Tancredo and others who support rounding up illegal aliens through enforcement measures existing in American law today. My post at RE:#695 contains some the original legislation that was enacted back in 1986 to combat future immigration problems involving illegal aliens. Holding employers accountable is critical if this new policy will work. Strengthening US border patrol is also critical if this new policy is going to work. This new policy will only flood the US with more and more illegal aliens.

A lot of what PresBush said today sounded great, but he has to backup his rhetoric with actions. After the fiasco of 1986 immigration policy, I don't have a good feeling about this new policy. Giving temporary workers a visa for three years, allowing them to request three year extentions and then allowing them to become a US citizen is backdoor amnesty in my book. These illegals should have to go through the same procedure that all foreigners must go through. It takes years to get a US citizenship and everyone should be held to the same standard. Period!

982 posted on 01/07/2004 1:48:12 PM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
ping
983 posted on 01/07/2004 1:48:24 PM PST by Laura Earl (80 days)
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To: Lazamataz
I'll take one of those, too.
984 posted on 01/07/2004 1:48:39 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Karl Rove clearly doesn't believe there are still Reagan Democrats

There's a reason Rove is 0-2 in Michigan, and why he polled less than the "weak candidate" Dick Posthumus.

985 posted on 01/07/2004 1:48:49 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Every man dies. Not every man really lives")
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To: tubavil
The country is going down the crapper fast

LOL!!! Well, I guess you're kids will grow up with the same attitude toward the country you have.

Thanks for passing along the pessimism.

986 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:03 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Lazamataz
Maybe we could use this approach to the Drug War.

987 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:26 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: mystery-ak
yeah they'll be put on DOUBLE secret probation! He's blowing smoke up our tuckas.
988 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:29 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Sloth
Apply this to legalization of any other crime. Rape, for example. Or tax evasion.

Feel dumb yet?

Nah, IMO the dumb person is you for equating a person who cleans toilets or makes beds for an honest days pay to a rapist.

989 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:30 PM PST by Dane
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To: mystery-ak
...if they don't take advantage of it, they are going to be sorry they missed the chance*....there's more to this than meets the eye...more enforce of current laws.

Yeah. And the SCOTUS is gonna put a stop to that CFR thing, too.

990 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:48 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: kevao
Amnisty is a pardon. It wipes away any wrong doing and makes you legal. This is NOT amnisty. It is a guest worker program that does not lead to citizenship. You have to pay a fee if you are already here. That is the punishment. If you don't have a full time job, you have to go home, that is the OTHER punishment.
991 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:53 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
There's a reason Rove is 0-2 in Michigan, and why he polled less than the "weak candidate" Dick Posthumus.

He's going for a third loss in Michigan, not to mention putting Ohio back in play.

992 posted on 01/07/2004 1:49:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: Age of Reason
That means even more Mexicans will sneak across the border to undercut those Mexicans in this proposed program.

Oh please...this program will relieve the INS backlog so they can have the resources to go after those that did not apply by the deadline.

993 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:09 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: My Favorite Headache
The leaks have been out for 24 + hrs on this..if they are wrong..I will suck it up.

Fellow Rush-o-phile (Band, that is) you were NOT wrong, and we have been SOLD OUT!

Guess who does NOT get my vote in November?

994 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:18 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: SCalGal
Look at this: when the illegals become legal workers, they will have to be paid minimum wage, along with all the extras - worker's comp, employment tax, etc. The price of labor just went up. Enter the *next* wave of illegals.... who will work for lower (cash) wages.... and the newly legalized are going to start having trouble finding jobs, too.

That's exactly what is going to happen. If many Americans think this Invasion of our country by Mexico is out of hand now (and it is) they will watch in horror at what will unfold shortly. Bush has just opened the Flood Gates.

995 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:22 PM PST by WRhine
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To: BushisTheMan
See my 978.
996 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:22 PM PST by kevao
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To: GraniteStateConservative
First we have to beat the Dems before we can purge out RINOs.

We DID BEAT the Dems in 2000. We elected a Republican. Now, he must ACT like a conservative -- or he deserves our wrath! You have the mentality of a slave who dares not criticize a master.

997 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:36 PM PST by churchillbuff (?)
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To: Dan from Michigan
There's a reason Rove is 0-2 in Michigan, and why he polled less than the "weak candidate" Dick Posthumus

You should include the caveat with no help from you Dan.

998 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:54 PM PST by Dane
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To: Sloth
It's already been applied to tax evasion.
999 posted on 01/07/2004 1:50:58 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: mystery-ak
That's what I've been trying to tell people but emotions are just so high that I think most of the posters haven't even bothered to find out what this proposal really is.
1,000 posted on 01/07/2004 1:51:01 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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