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| 1-7-04
| my favorite headache
Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: You Dirty Rats
The appaer to me to be natural CONSERVATIVES in their outlook, but the hardcore anti-immigrant Conservatives are alienating what should be natural allies.Yet historically 'hispanics' vote 60/40 democratic.
Mexicans as a subgroup lean more left than that.
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posted on
01/07/2004 12:57:23 PM PST
by
skeeter
(Fac ut vivas)
To: Jennikins
"Who built this country anyway?:
Immigrants for the most part.
To: You Dirty Rats
I just don't understand the unrelenting hostility towards immigrants, and particularly towards Latino immigrantsHere's a clue, Stu: implying that racism is the motivation is a cheap gutter tactic. Don't stoop to it.
If 9 million white Canadians were skulking around illegally in our country, demanding that Bush find a way to legalize them, most if not all of us here would be just as angry.
But we don't have 9 million Canadians skulking around in our country illegally. Do you know why? Because by and large Canadians have successfully taken up the challenge to create a society of laws that works.
The problem rests with the Mexicans themselves--indivuduals as well as leaders. They have a hell-hole for a country, and rather than roll up the sleeves and fix it, they move across the border. They have no incentive to do the hard work of bettering their country (a place of magnificent geography and abundant natural resources) because Bush is willing to give them an easier short-term solution.
To: Flyer
Well said!!!!
664
posted on
01/07/2004 12:58:18 PM PST
by
malia
(BUSH/CHENEY '04 *A Cherished Constitutional right - the right to vote.)
To: BushisTheMan
Did Bush propose any of the policieses you just listed?
He didn't, did he? So your suggestions are completly irrelevant
To: HolgerDansk
So there's no significance in severity between infractions in your world? One has national security ramifications, hence it's inclusion in the constitution. The other has minimal to no impact on society in general.
I should remind you that the president's job is to uphold the constitution not make excuses as to why laws are not being enforced and offer further exemptions for law breakers.
To: mhking
>>Aw, hell no!<<
My hubby is almost like you. Although he does have a job, no raise for three years is drowning us.
I agree fully.
I love the, "Jobs no American will work." I did customer service for a while. One cannot talk on the phone to customer service without knowing the person is in a different country. I couldn't find one of those jobs now and I could use one.
667
posted on
01/07/2004 12:58:29 PM PST
by
netmilsmom
(RE: Bad relatives, "Her presence is like pee on a hot rock! " - Conspiracy Guy)
To: Flyer
CongressCONGRESS! Good Lord, this will never get resolved, let alone resolved the right way. Until then, I remain skeptically optimistic, or optimistically skeptical.
To: Flyer
I didn't see pandering, but rather a way to get a handle on who is in our country.One of two things will happen - either the illegals will ignore the program, which will keep the status quo, or the flow of illegals will increase. This will by no means stem the flow.
The one thing that's been said through this that gives me hope is that Congress has to approve it. I.E., we still get a say.
I'm still furious, but my blood pressure is starting to come back down.
669
posted on
01/07/2004 12:58:48 PM PST
by
mhking
(MaldiciĆ³n justa.)
To: eleni121
How many were illegal aliens?
670
posted on
01/07/2004 12:58:54 PM PST
by
sarcasm
(Tancredo 2004)
To: Sloth
Probably not.
I actually like gridlock - nothing happens and that's just fine with me. Less government.
671
posted on
01/07/2004 12:59:00 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: eleni121; sarcasm
Edit for accuracy:
"NOTABLE IMMIGRANTS TO AMERICA (very partial list FOCUSED ON ENTERTAINMENT)
672
posted on
01/07/2004 12:59:07 PM PST
by
Beck_isright
("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
To: TomGuy
To: HolgerDansk
The Conservative position on this issue should be pretty clear -- side with those who take personal responsibility for their lives, work their butts off and send money home to their families, and go after those who do not make a positive contribution to society.
*****
Excellent post! You put the president's proposal into one sentence!
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posted on
01/07/2004 12:59:19 PM PST
by
maica
(Laus Deo)
To: HolgerDansk
Yours is one of the few clear-eyed takes on this that I've read. The President's proposal is just that; Congress will have to debate its pros and cons and act on it one way or the other.
To: B Knotts
The icing on the cake would be renewing the AWB. You know he will do it if Rove thinks it is a good idea. I am so disappointed. I really thought W. had some character. Count me out in Nov. The Republican need to learn a lesson. So do conservatives.
To: You Dirty Rats
Not with respect to foreign policy / terrorism. But in terms of domestic fiscal policy, CFR, etc? Yes. Because Al's terrible policies would have been fought by Congress on partisan grounds, while Bush's similar policies have been embraced on partisan grounds.
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posted on
01/07/2004 1:00:31 PM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: mhking
I'm still furious, but my blood pressure is starting to come back down. Good. Take 2 Flyers and call me in the morning ;-)
678
posted on
01/07/2004 1:00:35 PM PST
by
Flyer
(Happy Birthday Houston Area Texans!)
To: tubavil
Enforcing existing law. By forcing them to register, they become temporary workers instead of illegal immigrants.
And how would you suggest enforcing the existing law? Pull the miltary back from Iraq and Afghanistan. Make more reservists leave they jobs and report to duty to guard the border? Volunteer yourself? Waiting for you to come up with a better plan....
To: HolgerDansk
Given that I've got Kemp, BennettKemp? Bennett? I listen to them about as much as I listen to the rest of the bootlickers.
and Cato
Please cite CATO's thinking on this policy. Thanks.
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posted on
01/07/2004 1:00:46 PM PST
by
TomServo
("She wouldn't have me on a silver platter." "How about on an air mattress slathered with butter?")
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