Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

W's Live Speech Thread
Fox News | 1-7-04 | my favorite headache

Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 1,401-1,4201,421-1,4401,441-1,460 ... 1,581-1,591 next last
To: OXENinFLA
The workers under temporary status must pay a one-time fee to register in the program, abide by the rules, and return home after their period of work expires.
You've GOT to be kidding! After they bring their family with them and have "AMERICAN" babies? Get real.
1,421 posted on 01/07/2004 8:58:38 PM PST by Libertina (If it moves, tax it. If it doesn't move it's a sitting duck - tax it TWICE!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: InABunkerUnderSF
I am so depressed. It's all over. The country is gone.
1,422 posted on 01/07/2004 9:02:15 PM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1402 | View Replies]

To: Texaggie79
Minimum wage FORCES businesses to hire illegal workers to work the jobs that are not worth minimum wage wages

You have it exactly backwards.

The availability of illegals willing to work dirt cheap allows employers to hold down the wages of all blue collar workers in the sector.

If illegals were not present, employers would have to pay American workers a better wage.

Why are you so bent on driving down the wages of your fellow Americans?

Do you have any idea of how much the incomes of blue-collar workers have declined over the last thirty years, principally because of illegals and offshoring?

Do you really want to turn the United States into a Third World country?

1,423 posted on 01/07/2004 9:03:19 PM PST by WackyKat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1419 | View Replies]

To: Revel
Don't be such a fool. There are only four alternatives: Do nothing different and continue to turn back half the illegal immigrants who try to enter, 2) Open the borders, surrender sovereignty, and let there be a free-for-all, 3) Machine gun women and children at the border, suspend the Bill of Rights, and go house-to-house searching for people without legal papers or brown skin to expell them, or 4) Establish a humane system of lawful immigration which realistically reflects legitimate needs of business without doing damage to the broa5˜*society.
1,424 posted on 01/07/2004 9:07:22 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1413 | View Replies]

To: sfRummygirl
I am so depressed. It's all over. The country is gone.

I feel the same way.

The internationalists have complete control and won't stop until we're all serfs on their world-wide plantation.

1,425 posted on 01/07/2004 9:07:28 PM PST by WackyKat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1422 | View Replies]

To: WackyKat; Cultural Jihad
Wasn't there a story told by Jesus about giving money to beggers? Maybe we should teach the Mexican's "how to fish" instead of inviting them here for free medical and education at taxpayers expense.
1,426 posted on 01/07/2004 9:09:15 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1414 | View Replies]

To: Cultural Jihad
Establish a humane system of lawful immigration which realistically reflects legitimate needs of business without doing damage to the broa5˜*society.

We have that already.

It's called our current immigration system

You know, the one the globalists in both parties refuse to enforce?

1,427 posted on 01/07/2004 9:10:30 PM PST by WackyKat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1424 | View Replies]

To: WackyKat
There is nothing left. Even for us poor suckers on this website. We have lost our country.
I can't tell if I want to go screaming in the streets, or get drunk for the first time in 10 years. I could do both, I guess.
1,428 posted on 01/07/2004 9:11:18 PM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1425 | View Replies]

To: WackyKat
If illegals were not present, employers would have to pay American workers a better wage.

Did you go to Union University? That is pure balderdash.

Employers are not some fat dudes in top hats with cigars trying to screw their workers out of every cent they can. Employers pay what jobs are worth, and guess what, it has NOTHING to do with how much your rent is. It has to do with how much money your work produces for that company.

Your liberally blinded thinking may prevent you from seeing it, but it is a FACT that there are many jobs out there that are not worth but $3 an hour, or maybe even less. Now, those jobs are not going to be filled by legal workers because a company is not going to go in the negative just to hire workers to do those jobs. So they are forced to hire illegal workers who cannot report their wages.

If we removed minimum wage, then those low level jobs could be filled legally, and the companies could put more resources to paying its higher qualified workers instead of having to keep it's illegal workers secret.

1,429 posted on 01/07/2004 9:13:14 PM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1423 | View Replies]

To: RockyMtnMan
Welfare benefits and universal education are whole separate issues from immigration.
1,430 posted on 01/07/2004 9:14:43 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1426 | View Replies]

To: Texaggie79
This problem is so huge, and so out of control, we are now officially headed full steam towards at least a second world country.
1,431 posted on 01/07/2004 9:15:12 PM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1429 | View Replies]

To: sfRummygirl
I can't tell if I want to go screaming in the streets, or get drunk for the first time in 10 years. I could do both, I guess.

No, don't get drunk and go running down the street screaming

You'll end up in the drunk tank with a bunch of hard-working, law abiding illegal aliens

1,432 posted on 01/07/2004 9:15:13 PM PST by WackyKat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1428 | View Replies]

To: sfRummygirl
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
1,433 posted on 01/07/2004 9:15:40 PM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1431 | View Replies]

To: Texaggie79
I'm afraid your sarcasm is true.
1,434 posted on 01/07/2004 9:16:16 PM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1433 | View Replies]

To: WackyKat
I have never given up before. But I honestly don't see a way out. Do you?
1,435 posted on 01/07/2004 9:17:56 PM PST by sfRummygirl (Tancredo in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1432 | View Replies]

To: WackyKat

Nonsense. The so-called 'globalist' border police turn away a million border-crossers every year.

1,436 posted on 01/07/2004 9:19:05 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1427 | View Replies]

To: Cultural Jihad
... my belief that my $$$ is being spent to Hispander,

In the future, please try to at least mask or hide any revulsion you might have against another culture.

Typical BushBot response...try to make me into a racist hater of Mexicans!

I will be honeymooning in Mexico at Playacar Resort this year, and will make the pilgramage to Sammy Hagar's Cabo Wabo Cantina in Cabo...so stick that crap where you get your opinions from.

I am opposed to the ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS in this Country...I don't have any other thoughts about the folk in Mexico or south of them trying to get here legally...

Maybe YOU are the one who reviles a culture...the one here in America. Do you favor Aztlan? Are you a La Raza shill? Why do you oppose getting the Illegals out? ALL illegals, BTW, not just Mexicans or Hispanics.

The term "Hispander" was invented on FR, not by me...but it PERFECTLY describes Karl Rove's attempt to placate the Hispanic vote that he has been courting...and it IS Hispandering, since only Mexicans were at his presentation, and he spoke Spanish...not Vietnamese, or Chinese, or any OTHER lnguage...PLUS GWB made mention of the "bravery" of the ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS as they crossed the desert (ILLEGALLY) to get into America (ILLEGALLY)! Where was his praise for the Border Partol...his sympathy for the Border Partol agents who have died families?

I called it "Hispandering" correctly...sorry BushBot, he screwed us all, or Rove did.

But relax...your produce, maids, and lawn services will still be cheap..that's good news right?

1,437 posted on 01/07/2004 9:19:15 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1396 | View Replies]

To: Texaggie79
Simple market economics if there is no one available to do the work for $3 an hour then they have to offer $4 and so on. This continues to a point until someone is hired, the cost of labor is then passed to the customer. If the product is not worth the price you go into a different business.

If the lowest wage job in the country was $6 flipping burgers at McD's, set by true market economics, then we wouldn't need a minimum wage. Amnesty and minimum wage are both forms of government intervention in the market. If you are a free-trade advocate you can't have it both ways. You either go with the market price based on current immigration laws or you lobby to change the law.
1,438 posted on 01/07/2004 9:19:37 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1429 | View Replies]

To: Texaggie79
Your liberally blinded thinking may prevent you from seeing it, but it is a FACT that there are many jobs out there that are not worth but $3 an hour, or maybe even less.

Really?

So it is your position that jobs such as carpentry, roofing, framing houses, dry walling, cement work,electrical work auto mechanics and other semi-skilled trades are not worth the minimum wage?

Because I know for a fact that illegals commonly work in those jobs, jobs that employers who obey the law will pay Americans 8-12 dollars or more an hour to do

But why should a crooked employer pay an American a wage that will allow him to support a family when he can pay an illegal a Third World wage?You don't understand economics at all, and obviously don't give a d#mn about your fellow Americans

1,439 posted on 01/07/2004 9:21:37 PM PST by WackyKat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1429 | View Replies]

To: sfRummygirl

How many children have you borne for the future of our culture, language, and workforce?

1,440 posted on 01/07/2004 9:23:08 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1435 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 1,401-1,4201,421-1,4401,441-1,460 ... 1,581-1,591 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson