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W's Live Speech Thread
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| 1-7-04
| my favorite headache
Posted on 01/07/2004 11:29:59 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
Press conference starts at 2:45 EST....get the prilosec out...we are going to need it.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43; illegalimmigrants; immigrationreform
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To: ravingnutter
"There are ZERO illegal immigrants serving in the US military. ZERO! The requirements are quite strict, and aliens serving in the military must be legal residents of the United States. They are restricted as to rank and job assignments.
You only got the last sentence right...
April 2003 - As most people didn't know until a month ago, the military welcomes enlistment of non-citizens; more than 37,000 lawful permanent residents (green-card holders) serve in the military, where they account for about three percent of active-duty personnel
"
You seem to have missed the word illegal in my message. If they have a green card, they are not illegal. I got every sentence right.
To: ArneFufkin; Dane; My Favorite Headache
No, I stand by what I said in your linked post.
Do you deny that the (R) party treats Conservatives like the DemonRATS treat Black voters? How may FReepers have said "Just hold your nose./..we don't ALWAYS get what we want".
I did vote Buchanan...I REGRET THAT now, since he's such an Arabist scumbag. But I couldn't STAND GHWB's "New World Order" crap!
I "HELD" my nose, and voted GHWB....because Klinton was such OBVIOUS scum!
I "HELD" my nose and voted for Viagra Bob Dole...even though his campaign needed Viagra more than he did..it was PATHETIC!
I supported Alan Keyes in the 2000 Primary...and voted for GWB in the General.
I thanked G_D I supported GWB after 9/11!
However...that does NOT MEAN that I am a kool-aide drinker like you and "LEO Uber Alles" Dane...and feel that anyone with an (R) after their name is PERFECT!
This "Illegal Infiltrators are OK" Doctrine is CRAP! Giving away the STORE to Vincente Fox (probably because he threatened to make the borders MORE porous if he didn't get what he wanted) does NOT serve THIS COUNTRY!
GWB also giving away Free Speech in CFR was BAD too!
He has also given notice he will sign the Assault Weapons Ban bill if it hits his desk!
What "rights" are YOU willing to give away next?
Live on you knees in the (R) Plantation...I will live free, and think for myself...I'll pass on your Kool-Aide!
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posted on
01/07/2004 2:54:29 PM PST
by
Itzlzha
(The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
To: MissAmericanPie
What Bush and you are calling for is making euro- Americans a minority in five years as they sink beneath the waves of millions and millions more "migrants".
Ah, MissAmericanPie, I think we have come to the nub of the matter. For your sake I'll merely observe that most Hispanics are of at least partial European descent, but, alas for you, their skin is a LITTLE browner.
To: Itzlzha
Hopefully I will be out on the road somewhere seeing Rush and won't feel guilty when Bush loses Florida by 1 vote....ouch!
To: My Favorite Headache
Well, thanfully I live in Arizona so I don't have to worry about being able to vote a "conservative" in to office, so I can find something else to do on one day in November.
To: Rebelbase
Yes until the mod's got to it its original title was:
America Sold Out: Senor W's Live Speech Thread
To: sinkspur
Well see about Liberman.
Elections are all about the middle. Everyone knows that. It looks as though Rove and company think the middle is to the left, and it looks like Liberman and company think the middle is to the right.
I think that JL is beginning to look like the Dems only chance to have a consolidated vote large enough to beat Bush.
Time will tell.
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posted on
01/07/2004 2:57:59 PM PST
by
Diva Betsy Ross
("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
To: My Favorite Headache
Call after call, on every talk radio station today was one caller more irate than the next.
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posted on
01/07/2004 2:58:42 PM PST
by
riri
To: CA Conservative
You are right there's no use arguing with me because you don't listen. I did your post. Here's the gist of it:
they WILL be paying taxes, which will help defray the cost of any services they use
The work product they produce and the taxes they pay will in no way help "defray" the expenses they run up nor stem the problem from growing larger. Again, ... the reason is they do not earn enough, they do not produce enough. Their capabilities are limited to sending dollars back to Mexico that are used to make ready the next batch of illegal border crossers. Why? Because their leaders order them to do so. Why? Because there is political power in numbers.
Most people have no problem understanding what was just said. You are either mentally challenged or too stubborn to be educated or you are in the camp of the saints.
To: KantianBurke
The results of 30 years of unborn cihldren might have something to do with the situation we find ourselves in today, regarding the numbers of immigrants being absorbed into America.
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posted on
01/07/2004 3:01:15 PM PST
by
maica
(Laus Deo)
To: My Favorite Headache
ROFL
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posted on
01/07/2004 3:03:08 PM PST
by
B Knotts
(Go 'Nucks!)
To: T.Smith
Since they will be paying taxes they will have to file at the end of the year They will not be U.S. citizens so I would think they would be subject to tax law in their home country.
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posted on
01/07/2004 3:03:10 PM PST
by
Flyer
(Happy Birthday Houston Area Texans!)
To: MissAmericanPie
What Bush and you are calling for is making euro- Americans a minority in five years Ring, ring--David Duke on line 2....
To: dubyaismypresident
He's going for a third loss in Michigan, not to mention putting Ohio back in play. I figured Ohio would love this....especially near Youngstown.....
Just like Sen. Abraham was rewarded here for his views on H1-B Visas. I know staunch conservative who voted for Stabbie as a 'lesser of two evils', let alone the 3rd party votes.
If Gephardt plays this smart, he could really surge ahead right now.
To: Itzlzha
I, like you, am weary of always having to hold my nose. I've tolerated an awful lot from GWB, for the greater good, especially the war on terrorism. But this immigration policy is madness. I'm afraid Bush's legacy will be:
He saved the United States from the terrorists...for the Mexicans.
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posted on
01/07/2004 3:03:56 PM PST
by
kevao
To: Sloth
Iron Eagle has some very good suggestions. As many on this thread have stated, Bush's plan is a "proposal." He is "proposing" a plan that still needs to be debated. I tried on one of my earlier threads to get some suggestions going also -- instead of just griping on this thread, we seriously need to come up with suggestions that might actually work.
And I disagree with you that the Bush solution appears to be capitulation and appeasement. It is middle of the road, which is why many like you hate it so much.
To: Dane
I voted for him in 2000(general, not the primary), and I busted my butt to help Posthumus(who had little help from Washington)
To: Iron Eagle
1) Illegal entry into U.S. is automatic disqualification for citizenship
2) No immigrant here without legal status can use public transportation, public hospitals, public housing, or public schools. (national id card will be used)
3) illegal parents of legal children cannot stay. Parents go -- children will follow.
4) No driver's licenses for illegals
5) Firms/individuals hiring illegals face mandatory 5 years prison, permanent revocation of all professional licenses and right to conduct business or form or be a part of a corporate entity.
6) $500 per illegal tax credit. (No maximum. You report 100 illegal aliens, you have lifetime tax credit of $50,000
7) Deputize state and local officials to arrest and hold illegals.
Impressive. Logical. Makes sense. Too bad quite a few folks can't see the logic of your proposals. It certainly sounds like W didn't.
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posted on
01/07/2004 3:05:36 PM PST
by
mhking
(MaldiciĆ³n justa.)
To: B Knotts
"Rove has to go. Period."
Rove gets paid by the UN.
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posted on
01/07/2004 3:05:46 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
To: Catspaw
LMAO
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