Eighteen Illegal Alien solutions that are better than any Amnesty

January 7th, 2003 | Sabertooth

[AlBondigas]

To clarify: Buying land in Mexico

[SAMWolf]

Great list! But there isn't a politician with the political will to carry it out. Bump

[mrsmith]

Thanks, that says foreigners can own 'property' that isn't in the restricted zones (the good areas).
'Property' would seem to include land.

[LibWhacker]

I liked Michael Savage's idea, which I thought went completely over Bill O'Reilly's head yesterday; namely, most illegals, particularly those south of the border, come here for the jobs. Therefore, remove the jobs and you remove the incentive for that considerable subgroup of immigrants to come here. How? "Make" welfare recipients take those so-called undesirable jobs (which Americans are supposedly unwilling to take) by cutting them out of the welfare rolls. O'Reilly thinks this is tantamount slavery, which is ridiculous; each of us either has to work or starve.

Not looking for a fight or dissing anyone else's ideas. I just thought this was a good one, but maybe someone can talk me out of it.

[DollyCali]

Well thought out & presented. After all the reading I have done I find the topic very conflicted - both ways.

You present great ideas and quite ideal. I did forward it around to my email list (I haven't been flamed lately).. :)

Thank you for sharing your ideas - they are good

[DollyCali]

great idea.. I have a quote on my profile page.. if someone can walk to the welfare office to pick up a check, they can walk TO A JOB!

[DollyCali]

WELL STATED JOE!

[DollyCali]

HELP NEETS! I have so much to do & I have been captured by yet another FR thread.

:)

[TigersEye]

You are confusing ongoing illegal immigration with the large population of illegal aliens already in the country.

No I'm not.

Even if you could stop illegal immigration 100%, you still have to deal with millions of illegal aliens in the country. Either of the solutions I mentioned would resolve that problem.

I don't think either of your solutions would help either problem. They have both been tried and they have both failed dismally.

[Neets]

Back to work missy!!!

[heleny]

I like your ideas! The only thing I would add is a revision of the diversity visa lottery program to provide more review of applicants' backgrounds or to reduce the quotas from certain countries, especially those from terrorist-sponsoring countries. The DV lottery should not allow illegal aliens to participate.

The man who shot and killed several people near LAX's El Al counter on July 4, 2002, gained legal residence because his wife won the DV lottery.

[TheDon]

So, if you have no further illegal immigration, and you deport all illegal aliens, that would not solve the problem with illegal aliens already in the country?

[B-Cause]

Bump

Thanks Sabertooth - very best proposal I've seen yet. I'd like to plagerize it and send it to my congresspeople. Very well thought out solution!

Thanks again.

[longtermmemmory]

I especially agree with the mexican ID card. We have this already it is called a PASSPORT!

[TigersEye]

You are starting to flip flop. In post #53 you said your two solutions, amnesty and deportation, could only solve one problem not both.

Perhaps you are confusing the problem of ongoing illegal immigration with that of existing illegal aliens? The solutions suggested in my post would certainly resolve the latter, but not the former.

Now in post #72 you ask if your solutions wouldn't solve both problems. Would you please stick to one theory at a time?

Your question supposes two accomplishments that are out of the question especially by means of your two solutions. The answer is that neither deportation nor sealing the borders can be accomplished as long as there is an incentive for people to come here.

[longtermmemmory]

add to list

- Eliminate notion of INS (aka USBCIS) as a customer service agency. INS is a border guard and need to scrutinize all applicants.

- Illegal Imigrant Advocacy groups should have their status to represent people before INS should be revoked immediatly.

- Any adocate (lawyer or non-lawyer) who files INS petitions soley as a means of obtaining delay to stay in the USA should be PERSONALLY liable for filing frivolous claims.

- All people who overstay their visa or have a deportation order outstanding shall have their name on the NCIC computer. It shall be prohibited for the INS to advise any law agency to simple release an in custody illegal.

- It will no longer be undocumented worker. Illegal aliens will be refered to as ILLEGAL ALIENS.

[Brownie74]

It's not part of their agenda, not part of their plan.

Sadly their plan and agenda is to sell America down the tubes to save the party.

I can't and won't support any party that does that.

[TheDon]

Now in post #72 you ask if your solutions wouldn't solve both problems.

LOL! If you think that, then you have certainly misread my question. The question is not the complicated. Please reread it and respond, if you can. If you need further assistance understanding the question, I can try to clarify it for you.

[Pa' fuera]

Troops on the borders and walls on the borders are examples of unrealistic, unnecessary, and counterproductive rhetorical overkill.

Especially since a prospective illegal can apply for and receive a tourist visa and walk right through the border checkpoint with it.

[TigersEye]

The answer is that neither deportation nor sealing the borders can be accomplished as long as there is an incentive for people to come here.