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Eighteen Illegal Alien solutions that are better than any Amnesty
January 7th, 2003
| Sabertooth
Posted on 01/07/2004 8:25:32 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
By the way, what time is the announcement scheduled for?
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:49:51 AM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Sabertooth
I agree wholeheartedly with your list of ideas. Good combination of carrots and sticks. However, #12 may be a bit tricky as I think it might require a Constitutional Amendment. Please correct me if I am wrong on the Constitutional description of a "native born" citizen.
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posted on
01/07/2004 8:57:29 AM PST
by
RebelBanker
(Deo Vindice)
To: Sabertooth
Vanity or not, many of these suggestions are common sense approaches to dealing with the "immigration problem."
To: Sabertooth
You missed the most overlooked one:
REFORM WELFARE!
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:04:36 AM PST
by
rintense
To: Sabertooth
8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.That measure alone would probably send 90% of them home if seriously enforced. Good job Saber!
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:07:56 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
To: Sabertooth
Vanity or not, many of these suggestions are common sense approaches to dealing with the "immigration problem."
The issue of "anchor babies" can be solved by allowing offspring of illegals born in the US (or, for that matter, of legal non-citizens) to claim their citizenship "upon attainment of their majority" (i.e. when they become adults).
To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the ping.
To: Joe Hadenuf
El Rushbo just said that it is scheduled for 2:45 EST.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:10:34 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
To: TigersEye
Thanks. I wont miss it.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:12:06 AM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Sabertooth
I'm not sure about outlawing the matricular consular. ID is ID and at various times banks have to accept foreign IDs, as do our government officials on occasion. As long as we have legal visitors those visitors might want to do some banking and might get speeding tickets and these are valid times to present whatever ID their government is providing and each bank or government agency is going to have to decide if that's good enough for them. Unless a particular kind of ID is useless for identification purposes (like the old AZ drivers licenses that looked like cheap school yard forgeries) there's no reason to set a blanket policy.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:13:59 AM PST
by
discostu
(stay alert, trust no one, keep your laser handy)
To: TigersEye
You bet. The big question is why didn't they implement these simple solutions and other solutions years ago?
The answer to that question is the root of this corrupt lunacy.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:14:29 AM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Sabertooth
Lots of good ideas. Nothing has prevented us from doing them for the last few decades. If we wanted to do so, we could have. Why do you think we haven't? What has changed to make you think we are now willing to deal with the massive illegal immigration into this country?
I think effective enforcement of existing immigration laws would resolve the problem of illegal immigration, and the massive illegal alien population. Obviously, that hasn't been happening for some decades. I think there is a lack of will, or desire, on the part of Americans to resolve the illegal immigration problem by enforcing the existing laws. As Ridge has suggested, if that is the case, let's revisit the laws to reflect what we really want to enforce. If not, that makes the case for stepping up enforcement of existing law.
There are two problems: ongoing illegal immigration and the massive existing population of illegal aliens.
The existing illegal alien population must be dealt with in some way, such as an amnesty, or deported. However you deal with this problem, it does not resolve the problem of ongoing illegal immigration.
Ongoing illegal immigration is the problem that must be resolved first.
I look forward to hearing what President Bush has to offer in the way of resolving the problem of ongoing illegal immigration.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:18:36 AM PST
by
TheDon
(Have a Happy New Year!)
To: Sabertooth
13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship. 14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation. Good gosh, this all makes too much sense, but these 2 in particular... gold! If we could get over ourselves, and over political correctness, we'd realize how good that would be for EVERYONE concerned!
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:20:17 AM PST
by
brownsfan
(I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.)
To: Joe Hadenuf
"No controlling legal authority?" or is it "No indwelling ethical principles?"
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:20:53 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
To: TigersEye
Can we start a fund to hire some lawyers to file suit against businesses that hire illegals?
To: TheDon
The existing illegal alien population must be dealt with in some way, such as an amnesty, or deported.I like Sabertooth's solutions better since neither of these two will work.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:23:37 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
To: discostu
If they are in the country legally, they have no need for a Matricula Consular as a form of photo identification. They can use their passport, their foreign drivers' license or ID card, etc.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:23:44 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Sabertooth
Gosh, even one of them would be a help. All 18 would likely fix the problem. Walls--well, they can be climbed or broken through. The thing is, the main reason we can't keep them out right now is that there is too much in it for them to keep coming in. Amnesty will release torrents we can't even imagine, and it's bad enough now.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:25:08 AM PST
by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: Sabertooth
Don't know how politically viable it all is, but it sounds more like what I want to do than whatever we're likely to see anytime soon.
The vast majority of American's do not support amnesty for illegal aliens. Immigration laws should be followed and border security should be strengthened and enforced. Many foreigners have waited years to enter America legally and eventually become American citizens. People who follow the legal process should be given priority. It's an injustice and frankly, it's immoral to reward people with citizenship, who have entered the US illegally. Illegal aliens should be prosecuted, fined, deported and if necessary imprisoned.
Bottom line, amnesty and open borders aren't the answer to solve the problem of illegal immigration.
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posted on
01/07/2004 9:28:13 AM PST
by
Reagan Man
(The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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