Posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by shortstop
Sometimes some conservatives have no clue about finances and react to emotionally.
Speaking of crossing the border, jobs, and murder, America has NOBODY to blame for this mess but those who inherited the greatest economic prospertiy in the histor of the world - THE BABY BOOMERS!
Q: Why does the United States Government permit wholesale illegal Mexican immigration?
A: For the workers.
Q: Why does the United States Government need foreign workers (not just Mexicans)?
A: It does not have enough labor force to meet the service sector and other blue collar work sector demands and growth within it's economy.
Q: Why does the United States Government not have enough workers to meet economic demand?
A: Over TWENTY MILLION AMERICAN WORKERS HAVE BEEN ABORTED OVER THE PAST TWENTY YEARS.
Q: If over twenty million American workers have been aborted over the past twenty years, who is going to pay for (read: generate taxes) the Social Security of the baby-boomer generation (now reaching critical mass)? (NOTE: BABY BOOMERS have killed as many Americans as Lenin and Stalin did Russians.)
A: Mexican workers.
Final Question: If they had survived, who would they have to thank for it and WHO WOULD THE TWENTY MILLION ABORTED AMERICANS HAVE VOTED MOST FOR?
Any questions?
Rush needs to provide evidence for this or stop saying it.
LOL! Yes NO American is willing to do masonry, nor roofing, nor framing, nor sheetrocking, nor any of those jobs that my unemployed friends are trying to do as startups - and with the added burden of obtaining a journeyman's certificate (a requirement which illegal mexican's, under Bush's ongoing amnesty (lookin' the other way) are waived.)
How about not rewarding them for illegal actions.
We talk so much about Arabs hating this country but I feel that people that are sitting on their porch with their hand out had the country just as much. The bible says that someone who is lazy is the cousin to a great destroyer. I think I have that one right. I also agree with you about conservatives but I feel that it is also the Christians who are taken for granted in the Republican party and then forgotten. My new big issue is gay marriages. I suppose that the government will let this go just as it did abortion and I will feel as if I have no party. It may be time to start throwing my vote to some ultra conservative 3rd party to send a signal to the Republican party.
I like George W. Bush. I really do. But on several things, he is well deserving of criticism, and I do hope that the criticism is received on a constructive basis.
It tool a lot of nards in today's one world government to go against the UN and simply open a can of whoopass on a nation that needed a beat'n. I respect him for that. Now I am wondering what he is doing with 87 billion dollars of our money going over there. We are a generous and rich nation but thhis may not be the best thing to do with our generosity.
The single most valuable thing in this world is US Citizenship. The second most valuable thing in this world is legal US Residency. This Admoinistration is selling both for Votes.
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Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????
Think about it . . .
All I have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? I celebrate Christmas, but because it isn't celebrated by everyone, we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings. It's not Christmas vacation,
it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday? We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a
problem with that.
This says it all !
IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have
recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.
We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language !
"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture !
If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things
where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining,
and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom...
THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
But..........if we sit this election out, that will just open it up for the DemocRATS!
His proposal is brilliant except for one flaw.
The brilliance? The part that says anyone wanting to take part in this must get their employer to show no Americans wanted the job.
That will cause the cost of those involved significantly higher. Companies will be forced to show that they tried to find Americans for the job. They will have to be prepared to defend lawsuits from out of work Americans and the ever rabid trial lawyers if they want to rely on these workers. This cost will make it so that the jobs which the people are coming across the border to get won't be there, which removes the incentive for crossing the border, particularly if the benefits only go to those who have jobs and are paying taxes.
Further, for those who do manage to get their employer to vouch that no American wanted the job, so that they can get into the program, we now know who they are and where they are, two things we don't now know, all in exchange for involvement in a program which could be legislated away at any time. Some would be skeptical that it ever would be, but in an economic downturn, ending a guest worker program so Americans could get the jobs would be very politically doable.
And of all the illegals who are out there now, there are some who are harmless and those who are not. Those who sign up for this would more often than not be in the harmless side; they are the ones who really would rather not be hiding and don't mind us knowing they are here. This would make the pool of those who are here completely illegally smaller, which would lessen the burden on our security agencies.
As specified, the proposal is worlds, worlds, worlds better than I had feared based on the initial reports and the initial debate here.
So it is brilliant in that it would put a damper on further illegal immigration, pressure companies to not hire illegals, would get many illegals to tell us who and where they are. I am pretty sure that as this debate rolls on, almost all of the leftist leaning immigration groups are going to come out hot and heavy against these proposals. That should tell us something.
But it has a fatal flaw which means that we really should be opposing it anyway- namely that the courts would very likely find some reason to strike down that one very provision, stating that it is an impossible standard to meet (you know liberal judges). And if that one aspect of the plan is removed, then the whole thing is garbage.
Relying on a single beam of support in a very large structure when there are sledgehammer weilding Judges all over the place is a very bad idea.
But a recent General Accounting Office report said those numbers failed to account for the presence of many potentially eligible, undocumented Mexican immigrants and their families.
Census figures show that the United States is home to 9 million Mexican citizens. More than half, about 5 million, reportedly are in the United States illegally, according to federal estimates.
Barnhart assured lawmakers that undocumented immigrants do not get Social Security benefits.
"That's a myth," she said. "As is the case with our existing agreements, a totalization agreement with Mexico would not alter current law on this issue."
...That's true, but a provision in the Social Security Act allows undocumented immigrants to get Social Security benefits if the United States and another country have a totalization agreement. Those immigrants would have to prove they had paid into the U.S. system.
Former undocumented immigrants also could become eligible if they later become legal residents. A recent investigation ...[only showed TWO cases of that ever happening]
BUT:
In 1990, the fund totaled $1.2 billion. By the end of a decade during which America's undocumented immigrant population doubled and the circulation of fake identity documents surged, that fund topped $6 billion. Since illegal immigrants have no right to SSA benefits, the government will pocket most of the money, experts say.'
So Social Security money is not a problem- we win either way.
Besides real enforcement, any immigration deal should include allowing Americans to own land in Mexico. With telecommuting there are a lot of Americans that would take their dough to Mexico and still keep their US jobs. Providing the middle class that Mexico needs.
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