Say It Ain't So, Dubya

boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

[SerpentDove]

I agree with you that it is WAY past time for Bush to be called to task for his betrayal of conservatives.

A year ago you might have been thrown off FR for proposing what you're proposing. But Bush has brought this all on himself.

Best of luck with your new website.

[SONbrad]

Sorry... I forgot to add...for High School and less than High School education, most likely working in the jobs that Americans do not wish to work in.

[sarcasm]

Employed but collecting the EITC because their wages are so low - some benefit.

[texastoo]

Thanks for the updated graphic. This is 2004, 15 years from the 1989 stats.

[biblewonk]

I don't think that. But in my CR neighborhood it is these legal Americans that live a life of crime while on welfare that make the very concept of being an "American" look pretty weak next to the Mexicans I see roofing in hundred degree weather. I am suspecting that many of these Mexicans are not quite legal yet but they sure seem more worthy to be citizens.

[SerpentDove]

Speaking of Rush, an odd thought crossed my mind yesterday.

Facing felony charges, is he apt to speak out against the brother of the President , while that brother is Chief Executive in the state where Rush lives?

Whoops, gotta go...Wal-Mart is having a sale on tinfoil.

[riri]

There is a huge difference between a Mexican immigrant and a first generation Mexican-American. A world of difference.

[zeugma]

I have cleaned toilets for a living. I've mopped floors, emptied wastebaskets, and performed a lot of other work that Rush and many other would claim are 'benneath' an American's dignity. This is a crock of --it. You have to start somewhere. I no longer have to perform such work, but see no shame whatsoever in it. Bush lost my vote long ago, but this wouldn't help if he still had it.

[biblewonk]

There also seems to be a world of difference between a CR Ia Mexican and a California or Texas one.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I agree. Just the amnesty consideration and statements made by Bush and others in his administration are enough for me to withhold my vote for Bush in the coming election.

If he goes through with this plan, I know more than a few that will do the same. It's an outrage!

[T.Smith]

"I feel differently than you do.....I'm not going to vote at all in 2004."

Don't be that way. Not voting does not send a message to the Republicans. You have to let them know that they lost a vote. Go and vote a third party. That way they will see that some conservatives have decided not to be taken for granted.

[RinaseaofDs]

With the current leadership, I'd say you might be right. Gingrich didn't care. What is amazing about him was at the time, wasn't he the only R from Georgia? Now what's Georgia's delegation look like today? More than half are R's.

Gingrich had a full backbone installed, to the point where he shut down the government. It backfired on him, but he proved you could be principled and still maintain R control, at least in the House.

[sasafras]

"And yuo would do this even if the election were a toss-up where people who think as you could throw the election to Howard Dean? You seriously think that would be better? The Democrats would be laughing all the way to the White House.

Personally I would rather not cut off my nose to spite my face."


Then tell me why is Bush doing this - few if any conservatives are supporting his proposal. In fact most of middle America is against it as well. Bush should know that this will cost him votes. But I think he believes that liberals, moderates and hispanics will vote for him because of this - he is wrong dead wrong - they will not vote for him and will wonder why a democrat got elected when things were seemingly so good. Do I want a democrat as president, no but I think we already have one in office. At least with a republican congress their might be less of our rights being given so freely away.

[Mamzelle]

Papacito works like a piston--but Mijo does not know how. He's just angry all the time. And Mija just dreams of having babies of her own.

And the Anglos in their MacMansions (12,000 sq feet, ten bathrooms) on the lake will find that the next generation doesn't act so humble, nor is so anxious to do menial service.

[winker]

No Guts No Glory; the American people have abandoned their National Inheritance and their Birthright to Socialism by not fighting back with a National Referendum that would force a showdown of wills. A nation of wimps bowing to a Tin Horn Mexican Bandit! Warnings after warnings go un-heeded and we have not the will to Recall, Impeach or Redress our Socialist TRAITORS! NOBODY!... Is "above" this AMORAL OUTRAGE! Shame on you AMERICA for showing absolutely no BACKBONE against spinless TYRANTS!

[Charles Martel]

It's not as if we didn't know this was going to happen? A major part of Bush's election strategy was courting the hispanic vote. I don't recall Bush ever taking any kind of serious stand on illegal immigration. He is hardly breaking any promises that he made to conservatives here. He never did as far as I remember. No one should be surprised by this.

GWB learned from his father that broken campaign promises are to be avoided. Too bad he didn't pay closer attention; he would've realized that more people were disappointed in his father because he caved-in to the Democrats on a number of issues, one of which being the new taxes.

The fact that George W. Bush is breaking no campaign promises is sort of beside the point. If he does something so monumentally foolish as pressing this amnesty issue, he will alienate (no pun intended) more Republican voters than Rove is probably gambling on. With such a lame lineup of Democrat candidates, this is literally George Bush's election to lose. It looks like he's going to attempt to do just that, too.

[riri]

CR Ia Mexican

I keep seeing that, what does it mean?

[Mamzelle]

He's moving left to force Dean even father left.

Hah--Dean should try speaking in front of union membership and say, "American jobs for American taxpayers and citizens" and listen to the applause.

This is an issue that conservatives and unions could unite on.

America is at war and its not illegals who defend us--they are citizens and legal resident aliens in uniform.

If Bush isn't loyal to them, why should they be loyal to BUsh?

[riri]

And the Anglos in their MacMansions (12,000 sq feet, ten bathrooms) on the lake will find that the next generation doesn't act so humble, nor is so anxious to do menial service

Well, South America is run by ethnic minorities. I guess we are going to take the gamble and see if we can't pull it off ourselves. Using the same economic and employment model too.

[biblewonk]

Sorry, Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The best city in the world by the way.