Say It Ain't So, Dubya

boblonsberry.com ^ | 1/7/04 | Bob Lonsberrry

[Prolifeconservative]

Your logic makes sense to a point. Republicans (conservatives) in the house and Senate are very reluctant about bucking their President on domestic issues. The arm twisting from the Bully Pulpit is enormous and is very effective.

So a liberal agenda gets put into law as well as any conservative agenda. It's a trade-off.

In your scenario, it's quite likely nothing would get done with a Republican controlled Congress and a Liberal in the White House.

It's pick-your-poison. In the end, after watching how this President is advancing the liberal cause albeit more slowly than a full-fledged attack with all Branches of government being controlled by liberals, I really don't see how you could be flamed for your premise.

[BRITinUSA]

In the 1990's the population growth in Mexico was 2.3% per annum. If there are 10,000,000 illegal aliens in USA then in 50 years there will be 31,890,206 descendants of illegal aliens.

In 100 years there will be 99,412,046.

[Roughneck]

Rush needs to provide evidence for this or stop saying it.


Under Bush's plan, the ILLEGALS must provide this evidence.., I dont like Bush's immigration/bbrder policies any better than the next conservative, but take a look at it, I mean, all them illegals spouting off about not being a burden, will have to do just that.

[SheLion]

Conservatives must stand strong and uphold the values that make this country great. Voting for Bush no matter what he does is no different than the blacks voting for democrats eventhough they continue to be ignored. If you want real change then you have to make a stand. Anybody but Bush04

But I sure don't see any DemocRAT running that "I" would vote for! All of them turn my stomach!

[BureaucratusMaximus]

What's your solution?

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[StonyBurk]

When this administration determined that to compete with
the European Union -the US must disolve its' national border
and provide the employment for Mexicans (and any other illegal willing to run North of that imaginary line) When
tom ridge said we need to come to grips with 8-12 million
illegals who have allready come and find a way to Make legal--what is Not legal-- My question is when will we
have a government that functions to provide those things
our Declaration of Independence says governments are instituted to do?Clearly what we have now--does not.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Yep and it's increasingly obvious to me that the Republican Party no longer wants my vote or my participation.

[sasafras]

I agree - the demoncrats are dispacable no doubt - but if we vote for Bush then we can only expect more of this. My hope is that the congress will continue to become more conservative and this will force positive change in our country.

[flydye45]

A nice thought, and generous, but there is the problem of assimilation. If there are more of "us" then the immigrants become Americans. If there are more of "them" then our children become Mexicans.

Which do you prefer? The values of America or Mexico?

[jimt]

Think hard before you give your allengance to Bush who is no different than Clinton when it comes to his elitist actions.

The IS a difference. Bush is honest about them.

Both of 'em suck, of course.

[Jim Cane]

Sadly, Dane is right. Reagan's record isn't as spotless as some conservatives believe.

Dane is either ignorant of history, or intentionally failing to mention that Reagan had a hostile Congress. The Republicans control both houses, so what's Bush's excuse for increasing taxfunded social porkery at home and abroad? (and running up the deficit to boot!)

[BureaucratusMaximus]

And the social security thing is OUT OF THE QUESTION!

This is what erks me the most out of it all. I believe %8 to %10 of my paycheck goes for the SS tax. This is my money basically being pissed away by current and future recipients of SS. I can't help but wonder that all of the "moderate and compassionate" FReeple regarding this issue are already "getting theirs".

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

When you have, as we have here in the USA, only two parties, the candidate, in this case President Bush, can do what ever he wants. Because, we conservatives have no one else to vote for without throwing the race to the communist running as demorats.

Precisely. This is why we need a runoff law for national elections before we need anything else. I am all for keeping the electoral college, but the laws need to be changed so that the winner of a presidential election must get a majority of the vote AND a majority in the electoral college. This will allow people to vote their conscience without fear of throwing the election to another candidate that is loathed.

[Arpege92]

"I just don't see a person cleaning toilets everyday as somebody evil as you want to."

What if one of these ILLEGAL aliens who cleans toilets and comits a murder, only to run for the border to avoid prosecution? It's happened and it's still happening. I've even heard that these same murderer's return to the United States only to comit another crime.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

"Conservatives are patsies to the Republican Party, just like blacks are patsies to the Democratic Party." That is so true!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

The problem is that "conservative" corporate leaders like the Wall Street Journal totally support illegal immigration, and they support this amnesy policy. After all, it lowers our wages, which is "good".

[VRWC_minion]

I believe %8 to %10 of my paycheck goes for the SS tax

SS is a ponzi scheme, the more people participating the better off you are. You should advocate that we include anyone in the world who wants to pay in for a lifetime.

It is a rotten financial deal for the participants. The US taxpayer wins on this.

[pcx99]

A nice thought, and generous, but there is the problem of assimilation. If there are more of "us" then the immigrants become Americans. If there are more of "them" then our children become Mexicans.

Which do you prefer? The values of America or Mexico?

There are 250 million americans, and around 9 million mexican immigrants (including around 5 million undocumented). I fail to see the problem.

Mexico is a strongly religious (catholic) nation. Abortion is a no-no, they work hard for their money taking jobs most Americans won't, and believe strongly family (and they send back a PAINFUL percentage of their income to support those families this I know first hand), are there any particular problem with these values?