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FBI Arab translators cheered Sept. 11
WND ^ | 1/7/04 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 01/07/2004 4:43:49 AM PST by Diogenesis

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To: Cultural Jihad
Most of the worlds major conflicts involve Muslims.

Muslims killing Jews in Israel.
Muslims killing Hindus in Kashmir.
Muslims killing Christians in the Sudan.
Muslims killing the infidels in the U.S.
Muslims killing other Muslims all over the world.

I had a relative murdered in WTC 1. I don't like Muslims, and I never will.
221 posted on 01/08/2004 10:23:09 AM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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To: lawdude
You have my heartfelt pity, dear. I'm deep down a Cowboys fan and at least saw a glimmer of life in them this year. Who's your new coach?
222 posted on 01/08/2004 11:09:20 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: petercooper
Supposedly the man who murdered the Sikh in Arizona thinking the turbaned man he accosted was a Muslim, was a Christian.
223 posted on 01/08/2004 11:53:16 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Siobhan
You should see this!!!
225 posted on 01/08/2004 3:43:12 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Diogenesis
This is the most disturbing thing I've read since 9-11.

Bar none.

I'd better stop now before I'm Zotted or banned because what I'm thinking is very ugly.

226 posted on 01/08/2004 8:49:05 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Yehuda
Interestingly, one terrorism trial judge (in the Kenya bombing trial) insisted on having the Alfonso X "3 translators" system. Furthermore, the judge insisted on literal translations.

The judge in the WTC trial (Leonard Sands, I believe) did not, and let this one Egyptian translator do it all, unsupervised.

There can be gross mistranslations, and there can be very subtle ones. The sheik was apparently in the habit of answering his phone with the phrase "Victory to the armies of Allah." The translator translated this as "Good morning," because according to him, it was just a greeting.

However, in reality, it would be the difference between an Austrian saying "Grüss Gott," and an Austrian saying "Heil Hitler."

Personally, I think we should recruit Israeli translators. Would we we have to watch for biased mistranslations? Of course.

Do we have to do so now? Of course. But we aren't.
227 posted on 01/08/2004 9:01:19 PM PST by livius
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To: Endeavor
"Who's your new coach?Who's your new coach?"

We don't need a new coach...we need a new owner.

229 posted on 01/09/2004 6:18:41 AM PST by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: Hostage
From what I know the DOD maintains the world's top language school in Monterey California, the Defense Language Institute. I understand they have the capability to immerse an individual in a language for six months and have them speaking without accent.
That is very true.
I had some contact with people going through the training there some years ago.
It is time to root out the un-American activities we are allowing by using unscrupulous translators.
230 posted on 01/12/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Embedded Freeper
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To: Diogenesis
A TOP priority of this war against the Islamonazi's has got to be crank out large numbers of US citizen Arab linguists. The government should have special funding for students, with loan forgiveness, scholarships, grants whatever it takes to increase our number of people proficient in Arabic. To depend on foriegn nationals for critical information is suicide. SUICIDE.
231 posted on 01/12/2004 6:10:46 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Quilla
"Thanks for posting them..."

Hear, hear! We need remembrance.
232 posted on 01/12/2004 8:30:04 PM PST by avenir ("What fool hath added water to the sea, or brought a torch to bright burning Troy?")
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To: Diogenesis; All
Not only does the US government prohibit Jews from those jobs, but also native born American citizens.

Our government seems to prefer foreigners and "green card" holders with sensitive national security positions. Believe me when I say that translators are the least of your worries. There are many many foreigners overseas that are on the payroll of the US government.

I typed out a very long thread similar to this a while back, I wish I could find it now. It was about national security and intelligence information being passed to terrorists here in S.E. Asia. Many of these people are double agents and yet they possess sensitive intelligence information.

How do I feel? I feel violated and betrayed. Im in Indonesia and come to find out that Indonesians on the payroll of our government are passing information directly to the people our government is out to get. They laugh about it and joke about how America is so stupid.

For the first time in my life, I wrote a letter to our US embassy where I live in Malaysia in June of 2001 and specifically mentioned that there were people interested in attacking American interests that I knew and I never even got a response.

There are many American citizens and businessmen who live and work overseas, some of them have been overseas for many years and not only have high level contacts, but speak, read and write the language as well. I am always amazed at how our own government never listens or cares to what these people have to say.

The sad truth is that American citizens living an working overseas have absolutely no representation in our government. We have no congressman that we can call.

233 posted on 01/12/2004 9:03:00 PM PST by expatguy
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee; Lurker; Noumenon; B4Ranch
You guys seen this?

Unbelievable! More sappers within the perimeter.

234 posted on 01/19/2004 5:21:13 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Using "Trust , but verify" as a standard in my life, I would have hanging ropes visible at all access points to the translation unit.
235 posted on 01/19/2004 7:30:18 AM PST by B4Ranch (Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Jeff Head
We're full of them. And we're full of grown-up college "MeChistas" who are now rampant in state govts in the west.
236 posted on 01/19/2004 9:27:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
It's amazing.

The Dragon's Fury Series was supposed to be a fictional techno-thriller that sent a message on how bad things could get with extreme Islamic, Azland and other infiltrators coupled with foreign aggression and potential collusion between the fundmental Islamic states and China.

When I read stuff like this and couple it with things like the proposed immigration policy, I am afraid if anything, that reality could be much worse.

237 posted on 01/19/2004 9:40:18 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Travis McGee
BTW...Volume IV is maintaining it's number one featured raiting as an Adobe eBook on Powell's. Five weeks straight now.
238 posted on 01/19/2004 9:43:08 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head; patton; Grampa Dave; Coop; PoorMuttly
If I were relying on such translations I'd have Arab, Jew, Serb, Checnian, Pasty White boy Defense Language Institute Arabic Graduates and NOC American Expatriots living in regions where the language is read and spoken composing a team of translators. I'd have 4 such regional operational teams of translators who operate individually in each individual team. If I got even a post it note with arabic ...Alif... Dah... Bah... Rah etc on it I'd send it to each of the 4 offices with a understanding that they had one job and one job only to say what it says not what they think it means.

Once all 4 offices have returned their version then compose the draft intel from that. No lone individual or organization should be able to "fix" such raw data......

And to cheer the death of Americans while on the goobermint payroll ? They must be socialist clintonista democrats at heart.....

Stay Safe !

239 posted on 01/19/2004 10:16:15 AM PST by Squantos (Cache for a rainy day !)
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To: Jeff Head
Whooo Hoo ! I'd buy it if ya had let me :o) ......I know... I know... a steak dinner was traded. Congrats Jeff !.....BTW I inventoried my collection ,.... I have volume I, II and IV ! Gonna need a III before I start IV !

Dinner at the Big Texan is on me of course and I pay for the book too.......understand ?

Stay safe !

240 posted on 01/19/2004 10:27:02 AM PST by Squantos (Cache for a rainy day !)
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