[nwrep]

Wow. Bush may manage to piss off both Conservatives and Hispanics with this brilliant move.

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[oceanview]

live in the shadows? you can find them in every town in the country standing on the corner near the dunkin donuts waiting for a pickup,

[Reactionary]

"Mr. Bush will also argue, administration officials said, that his plan will make the country safer by giving the authorities a better idea of who is in the country and crossing its borders."

I don't suppose that it has occured to Mr. Bush that, by giving illegals amnesty, he is encouraging lawlessness.

The stupidity of this proposal amazes me.

[CHATTAB]

This is a STUPID idea!!!

[navyblue]

Workers who are approved would be permitted to travel freely between the United States and their home countries, the officials said, and would also be permitted to apply for a green card granting permanent residency in the United States.

Now this is the part that enrages me. A person who wishes to emigrate to the United States is first granted legal conditional or permanent residency. They are issued green cards and considered lawful residents of the United States. After five years, they can apply for U.S. Citizenship.

This is the normal immigration process that other nationalities have to follow. The difference is that the "other" people have to wait in their home country sometimes for years before they are issued an immigration visa.

Somebody please tell me why Mexico gets this golden key to the United States. Absolutely no other nation on the face of the earth is given this right. Do any of you have friends/relatives who have been waiting years for an immigrant visa?

I will never forgive this man for what he has done to my country! Our only chance now is to hound our congress critters without mercy until they shoot this down.

[boycott]

This is Santa Bush. He's giving everyone gifts to assure his re-election.

I am a conservative Republican but I've just about had enough of Bush giving away the farm for his re-election.

[RLK]

"promote compassion"

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You voted for him. He told you what you were getting.

[11B3]

"But the president's plans are expected to face a tough fight in Congress, where conservative Republicans have said they consider programs like the one the president is proposing nothing more than amnesty for people who have broken the law."

For the first time in memory, I'm sooooo thankful for the House of Representatives and their Republican leadership. I can't imagine Mr. DeLay & Co. following the President on this one, and it is a reality check that the president OBVIOUSLY needs.

[Trytophan Man]

The invaders kicked the door in and they are going to get better quota's, set asides and tax free status than American citizens.

[gubamyster]

ping

[TheSpottedOwl]

Good Lord.

[Cultural Jihad]

Bush Would Give Illegal Workers Broad New Rights

I guess when others gain rights some people like to squeal like stuck pigs. Gasp! They may even get ... U.S. Citizenship in 5 years!! How horrible of a thing!! When and where will the mass-suicide ceremony take place of those who tire of their liberties?

[Fixit]

[William McKinley]

I don't support this plan, but I have to say that almost all of the voiced opposition I have seen to it here on FR has been misguided, I think.

His proposal is brilliant except for one flaw.

The brilliance? The part that says anyone wanting to take part in this must get their employer to show no Americans wanted the job.

That will cause the cost of those involved significantly higher. Companies will be forced to show that they tried to find Americans for the job. They will have to be prepared to defend lawsuits from out of work Americans and the ever rabid trial lawyers if they want to rely on these workers. This cost will make it so that the jobs which the people are coming across the border to get won't be there, which removes the incentive for crossing the border, particularly if the benefits only go to those who have jobs and are paying taxes.

Further, for those who do manage to get their employer to vouch that no American wanted the job, so that they can get into the program, we now know who they are and where they are, two things we don't now know, all in exchange for involvement in a program which could be legislated away at any time. Some would be skeptical that it ever would be, but in an economic downturn, ending a guest worker program so Americans could get the jobs would be very politically doable.

And of all the illegals who are out there now, there are some who are harmless and those who are not. Those who sign up for this would more often than not be in the harmless side; they are the ones who really would rather not be hiding and don't mind us knowing they are here. This would make the pool of those who are here completely illegally smaller, which would lessen the burden on our security agencies.

As specified, the proposal is worlds, worlds, worlds better than I had feared based on the initial reports and the initial debate here.

So it is brilliant in that it would put a damper on further illegal immigration, pressure companies to not hire illegals, would get many illegals to tell us who and where they are. I am pretty sure that as this debate rolls on, almost all of the leftist leaning immigration groups are going to come out hot and heavy against these proposals. That should tell us something.

But it has a fatal flaw which means that we really should be opposing it anyway- namely that the courts would very likely find some reason to strike down that one very provision, stating that it is an impossible standard to meet (you know liberal judges). And if that one aspect of the plan is removed, then the whole thing is garbage.

Relying on a single beam of support in a very large structure when there are sledgehammer weilding Judges all over the place is a very bad idea.

[JustPiper]

Seeing REDPing!

[JustPiper]

"WE" are being terrorized with this Ping!

[tubavil]

Bush will not survive this filthy backstabbing of conservatives and America.

Tancredo says the reasons are clear, and he's right:

-Rewarding illegal behaivor to gain votes.
-Rewarding corporate campaign donors with cheap labor.

I will not compromise my principles in November for a man who said nothing while the 10 Commandments were dragged out of the courthouse, who wants to reward the world's biggest terrorist and Jew-killer with his own terror state, and now proposes a blanket amnesty for illegals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Outrageous!

[Paul C. Jesup]

(saracasm) Welcome to the United States, where Illegal Immigrants have more rights than Native Born Citizens.

[ought-six]

My God, can you imagine the massive flood of illegals pouring across the border just so they'll already be here when this goes into effect? We will have what amounts to 25 million illegals in this country by that time (I get my number from the comment some politico said about the number of illegals "doubling" in order to qualify for this amnesty, and current estimates of illegals in this country range between 8 million and 14 million, so I figured 12.5 million was a nice round number, and likely accurate).