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Bush Would Give Illegal Workers Broad New Rights
The New York Times ^ | January 7, 2004 | ELISABETH BUMILLER

Posted on 01/06/2004 8:20:50 PM PST by sarcasm

WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 — President Bush will propose a sweeping overhaul of the nation's immigration laws on Wednesday that could give legal status to millions of undocumented workers in the United States, senior administration officials said Tuesday night.

Under Mr. Bush's proposal, which effectively amounts to an amnesty program for illegal immigrants with jobs in the United States, an undocumented worker could apply for temporary worker status here for an unspecified number of years, with all the employee benefits, like minimum wage and due process, accorded to those legally employed.

Workers who are approved would be permitted to travel freely between the United States and their home countries, the officials said, and would also be permitted to apply for a green card granting permanent residency in the United States.

Administration officials said that Mr. Bush would also propose increasing the number of green cards issued each year, which is now about 140,000, but they did not provide a specific number. The administration officials, who briefed reporters in a conference call on Tuesday night, said only that Mr. Bush would ask for a "reasonable increase."

Mr. Bush's proposal, one administration official said, would "match willing workers with willing employers" and would "promote compassion" by fixing what one called "a broken system." The officials declined to call it an amnesty program.

Under the proposal, workers in other countries could also apply for guest worker status in the United States, provided there was no American to take the job.

But the president's plans are expected to face a tough fight in Congress, where conservative Republicans have said they consider programs like the one the president is proposing nothing more than amnesty for people who have broken the law.

The president's proposals were designed to appeal to Hispanic groups, a constituency that the White House is focusing on as Mr. Bush seeks re-election this year. The proposals are expected to be embraced by President Vicente Fox of Mexico, who has been lobbying for them for the past three years.

Mr. Bush is to meet with Mr. Fox at an economic summit next week in Monterrey, Mexico, where immigration will be a significant part of the agenda and Mr. Bush's proposals are likely to become a major focus.

Mr. Bush's proposal is closely modeled on legislation introduced last summer by Senator John McCain and Representatives Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, all Republicans from Arizona. The issue of illegal workers has been an important one there.

"We are ecstatic that they are addressing this," Mr. Flake said in a telephone interview on Tuesday night. "We've maintained all along that you have to deal with both sides of the issue — those who want to come to the country, and those who are here now. We're very happy to see a realistic approach. We deal with it daily, and we have to have a rational policy."

Mr. Bush's proposal is in some ways more generous to illegal workers than is Mr. Flake's bill. The legislation, for example, requires that a guest worker wait three years before applying for a green card. Under Mr. Bush's proposal, a worker could apply for a green card right away.

Mr. Bush's proposals apply to all illegal immigrants in the United States, which officials estimate at 8 million to 14 million people. About 60 percent are thought to be Mexican. No one is certain how many undocumented workers there are among all illegal immigrants, but Mr. Fox has said that some 3.5 million of the workers are Mexican.

Mr. Bush entered office with immigration reform at the top of his foreign policy agenda, and in the late summer of 2001 various guest worker proposals were under discussion by United States and Mexican officials. But the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that year led to increased concerns about the safety of America's borders and derailed the negotiations.

Under Mr. Bush's proposals, an undocumented worker and an employer would have to apply for the guest worker program hand in hand, with the employer serving as the sponsor for the worker. There would also be a fee to register for the program, but administration officials would not say how much that would be.

The plan also includes incentives for workers to return to their countries, like a promise of retirement benefits there based on income earned in the United States.

Critics of Mr. Bush's proposal noted that unless the White House sought, and obtained, a large increase in the number of green cards issued each year, many of the undocumented workers who apply under the president's program could face an extended wait — 10 to 20 years, by some estimates — for residency.

Administration officials acknowledge that the wait for a green card can take up to six years or longer, meaning that some guest workers who apply for green cards but do not receive them would face the prospect of being forced to leave the United States. In that case, critics of the proposal said Tuesday night, workers would be better off remaining illegal and staying indefinitely in the United States, rather than revealing themselves to immigration officials when they sign up for a program that may, these critics assert, lead to their deportation.

"They're asking people to sign up for a program that is more likely to ensure their departure than ensure their permanent residency," said Cecilia Munoz, a vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy organization.

Groups opposed to increased immigration also criticized the president's proposal. "It's an amnesty, no matter how much they dance around the fact," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center on Immigration Studies, a group that seeks to limit immigration. "It's legalizing illegal immigrants."

The White House, Mr. Krikorian said, "has been twisting itself in knots about using the word amnesty. They've had all of these ridiculous euphemisms, but illegal aliens get legal status, and that's an amnesty."

Other critics say that the guest worker program could lead to the exploitation of immigrant workers. "If you are dependent on an employer filing a petition on your behalf, that employer has a tremendous club over you," said one person briefed on the president's proposal.

But an administration official said that the plan would protect the rights of undocumented workers, "who now live in the shadows, and are fearful of coming out of the shadows."

A number of limited guest worker programs already exist in the United States, but they are designed for skilled technology workers, who typically come from India, China and Eastern Europe.

Mr. Bush will also argue, administration officials said, that his plan will make the country safer by giving the authorities a better idea of who is in the country and crossing its borders.


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To: RLK
Bush was the worst choice I ever made in the voting booth.
21 posted on 01/06/2004 9:16:18 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
The invaders kicked the door in and they are going to get better quota's, set asides and tax free status than American citizens.
22 posted on 01/06/2004 9:19:15 PM PST by Trytophan Man (Merry Christmas!)
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To: 11B3
DeLay voted for the 245(i) extension.
23 posted on 01/06/2004 9:19:27 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: 11B3
DeLay voted for the 245(i) extension.
24 posted on 01/06/2004 9:19:34 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
25 posted on 01/06/2004 9:29:23 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Shermy
There is a "white" self-loathing...

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This has systematically inculcated in our educational system, our news, our entertainment, everywhere else until the white race has been battered into becoming suicidal.

26 posted on 01/06/2004 9:32:48 PM PST by RLK
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To: sarcasm
Good Lord.
27 posted on 01/06/2004 9:35:09 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: Shermy
But the plan effects Americans of any ethnicity. The candidate who expresses this truth without the tint of racism can win the election hardily - with massive minority support. Also, the corporate "right" has coopted the "left" which really has no interest in supporting actual Americans, for whom they have latent hostility. You can call the lobby the "corporate-left", a mix of industry lobbies that can't outsource their labor overseas allied with left-identity groups.

Yes, you are right on with both points.

Mass immigration has depressed the wages of black low skilled workers even more than that of whites.

And pro-immigration corps give money and other support to left-liberal and ethnic groups who are aligned with them on the issue

28 posted on 01/06/2004 9:44:09 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: Shermy
This comment may only be represenative to the States where illegals abound:

For the industrial worker or technical that has seen his/her job disappear..the transition to **Something is at least a possibility as they collect their lives and regroup in a new job orinetation direction..their mortgage and family bills motivation enough to get moving.

But get moving to what?....here the lower paying jobs which abound are consumed by illegals..the resident American now has stress compunding as $$$ figures mount and is set against them as per time.

How many Americans are willing to work a shit-bird job just to get things moving..get some cash and work their available time to find a better paying job or new career.

In their tormented sleep..the immigrant grins at them....sleeping pills become a new reality.

29 posted on 01/06/2004 9:44:17 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: sarcasm

I guess when others gain rights some people like to squeal like stuck pigs. Gasp! They may even get ... U.S. Citizenship in 5 years!! How horrible of a thing!! When and where will the mass-suicide ceremony take place of those who tire of their liberties?

30 posted on 01/06/2004 9:47:11 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Light Speed
Great points.

If the illegals could fill corporate board and journalist jobs, there would be no debate.

31 posted on 01/06/2004 9:49:19 PM PST by Shermy
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To: WackyKat
Excellent synopsis...
32 posted on 01/06/2004 9:52:28 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: Cultural Jihad
My feeling on this CJ is this will get a few illegals to come over from the dark side, but in general they will almost all stay in the shadows of illegality.

I don't think this is an amnesty because we are talking about getting workers to come clean and pay taxes with temporary passes.

Now if Bush follows this up with enforcement of the immigration laws, I will be thrilled.
33 posted on 01/06/2004 10:07:14 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Perhaps, but the current system of catching and returning 5 out of 6 is not a viable one in the long term, no?
34 posted on 01/06/2004 10:13:28 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Shermy
I imagine the Almighty must be getting pretty chaffed!....

Illegals enter the country freely and laws are circumvented in enterity on their behalf.

The Almighty...well..He's getting the boot left right and centre from America...and to rub it in deeper...His law and appeal to reason are flung aside,

He is told .."This is the 21st Century...get with the program....we are not going to succumb to guilt..especially where money is concerened"

35 posted on 01/06/2004 10:19:35 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Cultural Jihad
Denial of services and access to public funds works for me.

I can't stand the loss of BILLIONS a year in CA because of educating illegal's children. Then there is the medical cost as well.

How about Bush get us a voucher from Mexico for at least an equal value amount of crude oil?
36 posted on 01/06/2004 10:25:28 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Mexican illegals bring so many children to public schools for education that I am beginning to believe the females from Mexico must be born already pregnant!!!
37 posted on 01/06/2004 10:27:29 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sarcasm
Satire?  Has President Bush really gone so far as to declare himself 'The first Illegal Hispanic Immigrant President?

38 posted on 01/06/2004 11:00:16 PM PST by Fixit (FS: One Aircraft Carrier -- Letter of Marque and Reprisal NOT INCLUDED.)
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To: sarcasm
Bush was the worst choice I ever made in the voting booth.

I felt the same way about Bush I in 1992. Bush II has managed to one up his dad in that department. The Bush Family needs to be cut loose from the Republican Party. They have managed to destroy the last vestiges of conservatism in the party.

39 posted on 01/06/2004 11:37:02 PM PST by WRhine
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To: gubamyster
bttt
40 posted on 01/07/2004 12:55:50 AM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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