Hannity calls any immigration policy change "asinine"

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Sean Hannity just used the word "asinine" in regards to any immigration change until we gain control of the current immigration situation.

[Senormechanico]

"We're to believe these folks can hop back and forth across the Hindu Kush mountains like fleas, but they couldn't handle a trek through the woods from Canada to the U.S."

What woods? There are lots of places in Washington State where roads parallel each other within FEET of each other with the border in between and not so much as a fence.
It's a simple matter of look around to see if anyone's watching and take a few steps. Done deal.
SM

[You Dirty Rats]

Hannity's point makes no sense to me.

If we followed his logic, then it was wrong to repeal Phohibition until we stopped all of the illegal drinking.

"Enforcing" the law by "rounding them up" is not possible in this country unless we are ready to accept Federales asking to see OUR badges!

I do think that illegal aliens should NOT receive government benefits (except for emergency health care); it is ridiculous to provide welfare for everyone on the planet who makes it here.

But there is plenty of room for people who are ready, willing and able to work. Not in unlimited numbers, of course -- but we are nowhere near immigration levels (as a % of current population) of earlier times (say, 1850-1920).

[Mudboy Slim]

"If there was a real guest-worker program, then we would be able to monitor and regulate these workers and they would be more likely to go home when seasonal needs aren't there."

Exactly...the status quo rewards law-breaking by both the immigrant and the employer and must be changed. To allow folks to break the laws while we wink at the problem is ridiculous, and giving amnesty to these law-breakers would simply encourage more of this activity in the future.

FReegards...MUD

[usadave]

In other words, we want them here. We've voted with the almighty buck.

The federal government is taking a lot of our "almighty bucks" away from us in the form of taxes in order to pay for services to illegal aliens including free public school education for their children, free unlimited medical care for the whole family, welfare, food stamps, WIC, etc. That's some deal us Americans are getting. We pay 79 cents for a head of lettuce at the grocery store while at the same time paying thousands of dollars in taxes to subsidize the "cheap" illegal alien labor used to pick the lettuce.

[XRdsRev]

I agree. The illegal immigrants are mostly good hard working people BUT the large numbers of them are destroying local economies and putting an incredible burden on local municipalities. We pay many times over in services, the amount we save by cheap labor.

The illegals (at least here in New Jersey) don't work cheap either. They are not imbeciles, many of them know exactly how much they can get from employers. The people who hire these guys should be put in jail because more than often, they KNOW they are illegal and only hire them because they can pay them under the table. The employers are just as crooked. They can pay illegals just under what they would pay a legal and still clean up by saving on taxes and unemployment benefits.

Secondly, the illegals up here don't leave during slow times. They have it very good and bring their families here to take advantage of "free" schooling and other programs. If I were in their shoes, I'd probably do the same thing but the unfortunate fact remains, they are bankrupting many communities.

You want to stop illegal immigration here in the Northeast ? You find a way to yank the liscenses/permits or make any property owner or contractor liable for using a company who uses illegal immigrant labor on site. 99% of the construction and landscaping companies using illegals, know damned well that they are illegal and it usually doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the guys working on your property or job site, who can't speak a word of English, are probably not here on the up and up.

[A Navy Vet]

What you said, except I would reduce legal immigration for about 3-5 years to expedite the assimilation.

[Lady Eileen]

bttt

[Dave S]

would pick South America. Lots of weapons available and from the appearance of the strict security at airports vs. the border it would be far easier to take a walk through the desert.

If you were a terrorist, your best bet would be to fly to Canada and then cross the border at a spot of convenience. No problem crossing from Canada. No treck through the dessert. No fence. Few guards. If you can pass as a tourist you got it made. You have to work and pay out cash to cross the Mexican border. With the Canadian border you just walk a few feet.

[Dave S]

That's spin. The money we save on cheap strawberries is no match compared to what we spend on welfare, higher insurance rates for us, and special programs for them to maintain their existence in our country

Proof it spinmeister.

[You Dirty Rats]

The Federal Government does not provide free public school education or free unlimited medical care. If these services are provided, it's by State and Local Governments.

I don't agree with any level of government providing free social services to Legal immigrants and Americans, much less illegals -- certainly not on the current level. Some minimum benefits for the truly needy I can live with, but we need more workers and producers in this country -- not more leeches.

It has been pointed out in the past that Texas has less of a problem with illegal aliens than California, and it's also been pointed out that Texas is less generous with free social services and free $$$$ than California. That is not a coincidence, any more than it is a coincidence that San
Francisco is overrun with "homeless" (i.e. BUMS) collecting $400 a month from the City.

[hchutch]

Interesting correlation. Could it be that the problem isn't immigration, but the welfare state instead?

[OldFriend]

It the utter hypocracy. A few weeks ago he was feeling sooo sorry for the poor illegals who are trying to make a living here......we need to let them work.....blah blah blah........

Today he hears Rush bash Bush for the immigration plan and he's playing me too me too.

[Dave S]

Many of the jobs they're taking aren't "seasonal", anymore.

Maybe if we hadnt made it so costly and difficult to cross the border they would have gone home during the off season like they did in the past. By making the crossing more expensive and hazardous, we have inintentally caused many of them to stay year round. So much for the law of unintended consequences.

[Dave S]

Obviously meant prove it.

[navyblue]

Tom Ridge is a meathead.

You are too kind sir!

[Froggie]

"The Federal Government does not provide free public school education or free unlimited medical care. If these services are provided, it's by State and Local Governments."

You are technically correct, these "free" services are provided by the state taxpayers - under federal MANDATE!
Without federal compensation.

Give-away programs (free health care, education, social services) are costing the states billions and raising all our taxes!

[You Dirty Rats]

The Welfare State is a problem on many levels. Immigration issues become problems in part due to the welfare state.

Immigration policy needs work. So does welfare policy. It isn't asinine to talk about any of this.

[You Dirty Rats]

I'm not about to defend Federal Mandates. Frankly, if they aren't unconstitutional, they should be.

[hchutch]

The question is, how do you solve it within the limited resources available while at the same time guarding civil liberties?

Oh, and while we're at it, let's make sure we can do so in a manner that does not seem mindless or as an injustice.

[af_vet_rr]

It has been pointed out in the past that Texas has less of a problem with illegal aliens than California, and it's also been pointed out that Texas is less generous with free social services and free $$$$ than California.

Those of us in Texas also understand (which many elsewhere don't) that "free social services" and anything else in that area with the word "free" attached to it are not. There is no such thing as "free social services" or "free public schooling", etc. because at some point you and I and other legal taxpayers pay for it.