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Bush will propose plan on illegals
Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, January 6, 2004 | By James G. Lakely and Joseph Curl

Posted on 01/05/2004 10:56:01 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:11:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush tomorrow will propose sweeping changes to U.S. immigration policy that would allow a portion of the 8 million illegal aliens in the country to move toward legal status without penalty, a plan sure to meet strong resistance from Republicans on Capitol Hill.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; immigrationreform; jamesglakely
Tuesday, January 6, 2004

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1 posted on 01/05/2004 10:56:01 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 01/05/2004 10:57:42 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Freepers post from sun to sun, but a fundraiser bot's work is never done.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for posting this thread, I'm unhappy to hear that our president bush is willing to sink this low for votes. I'm a hispanic, i have been in the US since i was 6. It makes me feel cheated when my family had to go through the legal channels and spend hours doing everything right, while other people can just show up at the door and get a free ride to legality status. I'm 30 and just got my citizenship, I believe in making our people on welfare get off of it and make them work for those low wage jobs the illegal mexicans want to take. I hope this reform doesn't make it through and I really wanted to vote for bush in 04. I guess we'll just wait to see what happens.
3 posted on 01/05/2004 11:10:38 PM PST by 1FASTGLOCK45
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To: JohnHuang2
Don't let them get away with this! SCREAM!
Call toll free:

Whitehouse: 202-456-1414

Comment Line: 202-456-6213 and 202-456-1111

House and Senate: 1-800-648-3516

Rep. Nat'l Committee" 202-863-8500 (not toll free)

If you're opposed to any form of amnesty, you can send Bush and other politicians a FAX here: http://www.numbersusa.com/faxcenter

For more information, see these:

"No Amnesty for Millions of Illegal Immigrants"

http://www.fairus.org/Team/Team.cfm?ID=2317&c=41

"Social Security Funds for Illegal Aliens?"

http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIssueCenters/ImmigrationIssueCenters.cfm? ID=2239&c=13

Senate: http://www.senate.gov/

Congress: http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html

Department of Homeland Defense: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/contactus

Department of Justice/John Ashcroft AskDOJ@usdoj.gov 202-353-1555

President Bush's Campaign BushCheney04@GeorgeWBush.com 703.647.2700

Republican National Committee info@rnc.org 202.863.8500

president@whitehouse.gov

4 posted on 01/05/2004 11:33:24 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Check this out...these are OLD numbers. Imagine what it is today! cis.org/articles/1997/back197.htm
Measuring the Fallout (Cost of the 1986 amnesty after ten years) Center for Immigration Studies May 1997 David Simcox



Summary

The federal government began legalizing almost three million illegal aliens 10 years ago, on May 5, 1987, wary of the fiscal liabilities of opening more public assistance programs to a population with high needs and low taxpaying power.

To ease the burden on the states, Washington closed some programs to the newly legalized for five years and reimbursed the states nearly $3.5 billion for some of their aid costs.

Was the concern of Congress, the White House, and many state and local leaders justified? A review of the evidence a decade later confirms that legalization indeed carried a high fiscal price tag — a total 10-year cost of $78.7 billion — with the indirect and downstream costs still accumulating. In the ten-year period ending in 1996, the amnestied population:

Accounted for an estimated $102.1 billion costs in current dollars in twenty federal, state, and local assistance programs and services.


Paid total taxes of $78 billion, for a ten-year fiscal deficit of $24 billion in the public assistance and services portion of the budget.

These are estimates of the direct costs only. There were, and will continue to be, significant indirect costs associated with the legalization of 2.7 million persons:

Job Displacement: About 1.66 million legalized workers, 70 percent of them unskilled, displaced an average of 187,000 citizen and settled immigrant workers from jobs each year. Costs of public assistance to those displaced totaled $9.9 billion for the decade.


Citizen Children: Women in the legalized population had an estimated 1.25 million U.S. citizen children between 1970 and 1996. Public education and three major public assistance programs to citizen children 18 and under amounted to $36.1 billion in the decade since amnesty.


School Costs of Undocumented Children: Remaining in the households of legalized population, or joining them subsequently were some 400,000 illegal immigrants by 1996, up from 177,000 in 1987. Costs of providing public schooling for them was $8.56 billion.


Five-Year Prospective Education Costs: Public education costs for U.S. citizen children of legalized aliens are projected to claim an additional $29.4 billion in the five years from 1997 to 2001, mostly from state and local budgets.


Total direct and associated indirect costs of the legalized population after taxes reached $78.7 billion in current dollars for the decade.

Large numbers of the legalized began to naturalize starting in 1995. According to the U.S. commission on Immigration Reform, 1.4 million spouses, children, and parents of amnestied aliens now on immigration waiting lists, will gain immediate entry as relatives of citizens. The costs of public education for the young people of this population and medical care and income support for the 900,000 aging parents is expected to be formidable.

5 posted on 01/05/2004 11:34:27 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; JustPiper
This issue needs to be debated in public and then put to a vote. If our President goes to Mexico on Wednesday and decides to legalize existing illegal mexicans in America, I will re-register as an Independent. Simple as that.
6 posted on 01/05/2004 11:41:40 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
How refreshing to see an article that deals with facts. Also fairus.com has the facts on the impact of illegal aliens on our natural resources. Even here in the wet north west, Four water districts in one county, will have water shortages.with in the next two years.

The acres of land that are being lost per day, due to building of apartments etc, to house the illegals, is staggering. The impact on our schools, where over half of the kids cannot read, write, speak or do math in English, takes away from the kids of citizens, the right to an education that I was so blessed with.

The only states that seem to not be affected to any degree, are the upper New England States.

But never fear, it will work itself there also.

I would say, we have had more illegals settle here in the last three years, than probably in the ten years before. And to say it is totally out of hand is an understatement.

One school district will go to bilingual this coming fall. The parents that are upset, are told, you have a choice to enroll your child in these classes OR YOU CAN ENROLL THEM IN A DIFFERENT SCHOOL. And people wonder why the animosity, toward illegal aliens and their kids.
7 posted on 01/06/2004 1:13:18 AM PST by calawah98
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To: JohnHuang2
"The changes in immigration law proposed by the president have long been advocated by Mr. Fox, . . . "

Essentially, this means that Mexico's president is deciding what our immigration policy toward Mexicans should be.

Gee, what a great idea!! Why not let Yassar Arafat decide what our immigration policy for Muslims should be? And, while we're at it, let's let Robert Mugabe decide what our immigration policy for Africans should be.

If Bush is supposed to be a leader, why doesn't he lead? Allowing leaders from other nations to establish your immigration policy is NOT the mark of a leader - it is the mark of a follower.
8 posted on 01/06/2004 1:46:18 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Pro-Bush; Zipporah; gubamyster; FairOpinion; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; ...
I will re-register as an Independent. Simple as that

Now this idea will work! Register Independent- Write-in-Tancredo! M? Would you please work with Zipporah on this aspect of the CamPain?! Please helpthe collective effort, for each Freeper has been contributing something great! But between the write-in and your Independent Registration, these will be the focal points of our Grassroots Efforts!

9 posted on 01/06/2004 5:46:14 AM PST by JustPiper (Every government degenerates when trusted to our rulers alone)
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To: JohnHuang2
Eight Million? JH this makes me ILL!!!
10 posted on 01/06/2004 5:50:16 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45
Congratulations on becoming a US citizen, and welcome!
11 posted on 01/06/2004 7:19:38 AM PST by Nea Wood (Democrats - they throw OUR money at THEIR problems.)
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