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The gift that eats people
Propertyrightsresearch.org | Dec 31 03 | Jan Jacobson

Posted on 01/05/2004 4:54:44 PM PST by Redfeather

The gift that eats people

December 31, 2003

By Jan M. Jacobson

gladesguru@aol.com

In the Everglades, a consortium of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) with socialist motivations, and agencies with expansionist agendas have introduced large-bodied predators in the one place in the entire Everglades where there are more people, using both public and private facilities, in less space than any other location.

The ParkPersons saw fit to release several Texas panthers between two Park Service campgrounds and two schools, one run by ParkPersons, the other a privately owned and operated educational organization.

From a panther's perspective the tents of the campers are potential "Snack N A Sack" situations, the pets of the campers are the appetizers -- and this is the good news.

The bad news is that, according to the literature, panther attack analysis shows that the cats prefer children in the 5 to 9-year-old range.

The ParkPerson-operated school deals with elementary school age students.

And the panthers have been seen with front paws on the four-foot-high fence, looking the situation over.

By the way, they can leap at least ten feet high, so the fence affords no protection at all.

But, are they a risk? Consider the following. Not only are there at least ten attacks on humans annually, but there is one fatality annually.

Fatality means being eaten by the "large-bodied predator," to use a biologist's term.

Eaten -- as in clawed and bitten, hopefully to death -- before being eaten by the "reintroduced" panther.

How did this situation come to happen, anyway?

The project perpetrators claim the 'Florida Panther' is "endangered." That claim is an egregious lie, and they have known so for at least ten years.

There is no such thing as a "Florida" Panther.

The many USA subspecies, including the 'Florida Panther' are now known to science to be, in fact, one species.

The Florida "sub-species" Felix concolor coryii does not exist. No subspecies are valid.

All panthers north of the northern border of Nicaragua, all the way to the Yukon and from Atlantic to the Pacific, are one species.

In the May/June, 2000, issue of the Journal of Heredity is an article titled 'Genomic Ancestry of the American puma' (Puma concolor). The DNA evidence is clear and conclusive, "...the entire North American population (186 individuals from 15 previously named subspecies) was genetically homogeneous."

Translated from scientific-ese that means: one species.

Once again: DNA analysis proved there are no sub-species of panther. Just the one species.

Why would enviro-socialist organizations (NGOs) and a horde of agency scientists continue to use the term endangered species -- when all involved know better?

Why has no scientist come forward to ask that the panther program be shut down, as it is being fraudulently funded?

Tax dollars must only be spent to benefit a bona fide "endangered species" as defined in the Endangered Species Act.

Nowhere in the Endangered Species Act is there authorization to spend tax dollars on a species which is shot as vermin in Texas and hunted in a number of states.

The Texas cats "reintroduced" into my neighborhood morphed from varmints to "endangered" when the NGO agency crowd "reintroduced" them here.

Same cat - different status.

Remember, all panthers north of Nicaragua are one species!

The 32 sub-species are now known to be invalid.

There is only one panther in North America.

Why is this happening?

Consider money, and as always, power.

Let's start with money. NGOs receive contributions, etc., because they claim to be helping an endangered species. It isn't endangered, and they know it. The panther isn't endangered -- but its 'endangered' status made it a cash cow for the NGOs. " Moo," the sound of the cash cow. "Moo" -- as in moola -- lots and lots of moola.

Another population of "panther profiteers" consist of researchers whose jobs depend on the Endangered Species status of the 'Florida panther.' They are the beneficiaries of plush agency jobs.

Wouldn't you like to be paid to fly around looking at the Everglades while "tracking" radio-collared panthers?

And let's not forget to mention those paid to spread panther propaganda through schools, radio and TV interviews, and magazines. The Florida Wildlife Commission even had its own magazine, with lots of breathless articles, complete with soulful-eyed panthers.

Always there's the same agenda message: more money, more government owned lands, more regulations on remaining landowners, more restrictions on public access to public lands.

All to keep the poor endangered panther from going extinct -- except the cat wasn't in danger of extinction at all.

And all those fattening at the public trough knew this for at least ten years -- and they did it anyway.

Taxpayers were scammed into voting their descendants (and their descendants) into debt for nothing more than power for the NGO power perverts and the bureau-scientists who wanted salaries and grant monies that they knew they couldn't justify otherwise.

Another point worth pondering is that the Florida native cats were exceedingly secretive, because those which had any behavioral tendencies to confront man in any way had been shot out long ago. The introduced panthers are Texas cats, and they have the same insolent attitude regarding man that has become newsworthy as these western cats attack some ten humans annually, and kill at least one annually.

In Texas, such behavior has led to varmint status and Texans shoot panther when they want -- no season, no limit.

This type of behavior was eliminated from the Florida panther gene pool decades age -- not by some agency scientist, but by natural selection and armed citizens.

Yesterday I videotaped a private landowner, a retired, handicapped landowner who lived down the road from me.

He described how two of these "reintroduced" Texas cats boldly walked the length of his yard and had passed within fifteen feet of him.

This was after he had had to listen to a wild pig being killed and eaten less than 30 feet from his lawn chaise lounge where he rests.

This in the same insolence described in the literature, insolence which occurred before such western cats attacked people.

In case you don't want to go through the scientific literature, try Reader's Digest from a month or two ago, whose cover article was about such panther behavior in Boulder, Colorado. There, brazenly aggressive panther behavior preceded panther attacks.

In Colorado a high school student was attacked, dragged some distance -- while still struggling -- and eaten. I do not plan to become panther scat -- these cats must be removed immediately.

These same, sordid collection of 'panther profiteers' had to remove panthers being "reintroduced" from north Florida because the same behavior mentioned in the RD article occurred there.

Worse yet, the literature shows [proves] that they knew this was going to be a problem -- but did it anyway.

They lied to both the public and the press.

Samuel Clemens [Mark Twain] once advised against "picking fights with those who buy ink by the barrel." I am curious to see what happens when the reporters, radio and TV interviewers, and a number of authors discover that they have been lied to about the 'endangered' status of the Florida Panther.

But far worse than offending the media or collecting contributions under false premises, is the damage done to the basic fabric of this society.

Citizens voted huge bond issues and indebted their children -- based on lies.

The American Republic is based on an "informed electorate," to quote Thomas Jefferson.

Such lies meant that many went into voting booths having been deliberately misinformed by agencies and organizations they had trusted were telling the truth.

That, in my opinion, is despicable.


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To: okie01
30-year old attacked

I hadn't heard about the above 2003 attack until I googled it up tonight. The attack took place in the Basin part of the Chisos Mountains in Big Bend Park. I was hiking in the upper part of the Basin when I found a mountain lion paw print (post 17).

21 posted on 01/05/2004 7:37:16 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: WackyKat
If you can show me a panther that can cross-pollinate plants, maybe I'll accept your comparison.
22 posted on 01/05/2004 7:38:13 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: rustbucket
I've been on that Basin trail myself. Guess we were both lucky...
23 posted on 01/05/2004 7:48:56 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: rustbucket
The attack took place in the Basin part of the Chisos Mountains in Big Bend Park. I was hiking in the upper part of the Basin when I found a mountain lion paw print (post 17).

I've backpacked a lot in the desert southwest and seen lion tracks many times. And bear tracks. And rattlesnakes

So what?

People in this country in far more danger from automobiles, junk food diets, and criminals than wildlife.

24 posted on 01/05/2004 8:12:17 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: WackyKat
My Dear Whacky,

Time for a bit of reality, like basic math, elementary statistical analysis, and learning to differentiate between reality and projections.

But before I begin your lessons, try to remember that survival is the most basic right. Being eaten alive is the ultimate violation, wouldn't you agree?

To start, "Let's do the math" and the statistics. The risk for these cats is not spread evenly across the roughly 250 million Americans. All Americans are exposed to lightening to one extent or another.

But almost no Americans live where there are panther. So the annual ten attacks & one death are a risk to far less than 2.5 million Americans. For the risk to be equal for all Americans, there would have to be 250 divided by 2.5 or 1,000 attacks & 100 deaths per year.

Unless the whacko's can arrange for 100 times the present number of panther, and arrange for them to be evenly distributed across America, those of us exposed to these ill advised "reintroductions" are at at least 100 times the risk you so snidely implied.

I am assuming that you didn't have any statistical background because if you did, then you would have been deliberately deceptive. And that is not something which I think a FReeper would be.

There is another far greater flaw in your argument. The stuck-in-a-chimney deaths, and those of bee keepers, and even most of those who are struck by lightning - are voluntary risks assumed by the citizen who died of those things.

That unfortunate citizen decided to go into that chimney. The bee keeper chose that job, and that citizen chose to go outside.

I have had my life recklessly endangered by someone else's decision. I did not agree to assume this unnecessary risk -some enviro-socialist whacko forced me into this position.

The same applies to others who live where these large-bodied predators have been either "reintroduced" or been coddled and cossetted by the "panther panderers" I mentioned in the article.

This issue is only political to the extent that any party so abysmally stupid as to support such ill advised programs deserves any voter rejection which their actions bring onto their nasty socialism impaired heads.

But I do have a personal agenda - not being eaten.

Make that two agenda issues - not standing by while elderly heighbors are recklessly endangered by 'crats who knew they were endangering us before they began this project.

The test is in the next election. You, and the Republic, must live with what you have learned.
25 posted on 01/05/2004 8:22:20 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: WackyKat
"People in this country in far more danger from automobiles, junk food diets, and criminals than wildlife."

- - 'in this country' isn't the same as 'in panther country'

The difference is detailed in post # 25.


26 posted on 01/05/2004 8:28:47 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: Ben Ficklin
As I remember his description in the book, he was probably both drunk and blissed out totally. A conservative watching Red-Cooked Crow being eaten in all directions

Schadenfreude to the max!
27 posted on 01/05/2004 8:56:04 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: WackyKat
People in this country in far more danger from automobiles, junk food diets, and criminals than wildlife.

Not when hiking in mountain lion country.

My company required that I get bear training and be accompanied by an armed bear guard when going to remote parts of Alaska on company business. Guess they should have talked to you first.

28 posted on 01/05/2004 9:04:17 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

29 posted on 01/05/2004 10:20:35 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Redfeather
are mountain lions, cougars, panthers, and pumas all the same thing? (I'm from new york.)
30 posted on 01/05/2004 10:24:23 PM PST by drhogan
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To: drhogan
All are the same, Felix concolor.
31 posted on 01/05/2004 10:35:30 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: Redfeather
Shoot
Shovel
Shut-up

(the famous 3 S's)
32 posted on 01/05/2004 10:48:28 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: drhogan
I believe mountain lions, cougers, and panthers are exactly the same thing.

Pumas are similar but found only in South America (I believe they have spots or are jet black...not the tawny color of a couger).
33 posted on 01/05/2004 10:51:22 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
Oops, my bad. They are all the same thing, including the puma.

"Puma, cougar, panther, mountain lion - FELlS CONCOLOR

Class: Animals with Milk Glands (Mammalia)
Subclass: True Mammals (Eutheria)
Order: Meat-eating Mammals (Carnivora)
Family: Felidae.

The Name "Puma": "Puma" is the Quechua word for the animal. "Cougar" is a derivative of the Tupi word "suasuarana," which means "deer-like" (in color). "Panther" is the Greek word for the animal. "Lion" comes from the Greek word "leon," for the animal.

Location: Western North America and South America.

Habitat: Terrestrial. All types.

Description: The size of the puma varies considerably over its large geographic range. The basic coloration is yellowish-brown on top and pale underneath. The young are born with a speckled coat and a ringed tail, but the markings disappear as the young grow. In the adult, the only traces remaining are black markings on the head. The puma grows over five feet long, with almost three more feet for its tail. It can weigh up to 225 pounds, but the female is generally smaller.


Behavior: This is a solitary and territorial animal. The male spends a lot of time marking his large territory, but rarely defends it convincingly. The female has a smaller territory, which may overlap slightly with that of a male. The puma preys on most species of mammals but seems to prefer deer. It is a powerful and expert hunter and can jump up to 20 feet upwards in a single bound! By nature active both day and night, it has become strictly nocturnal in areas inhabited by man, its only enemy apart from wolves.

Reproduction: After a gestation period of 90 days, usually two or three (but sometimes as many as six) young are born in protected dens in caves or under ledges or roots. The young pumas are independent after two years.

from: http://www.americazoo.com/goto/index/mammals/310.htm

34 posted on 01/05/2004 10:56:10 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
Here's the other American cat I was thinking of:



Jaguar - PANTHERA ONCA

Endangered

Class: Animals with Milk Glands (Mammalia)
Subclass: True Mammals (Eutheria)
Order: Meat-eating Mammals (Carnivora)
Family: Felidae.

The Name "Jaguar": "Jaguar" comes from the South American Tupi word "jaguara."

Location: From the southern United States to latitude 400 in South America.

Habitat: Tropical forests.

Description: The coat is bright yellow, almost reddish on the back, and has conspicuous circular markings, or rosettes, with a small black spot in the middle. The belly is white. The eight subspecies are distinguished by only minor features. The head is large and bulky, the body is robust, and the short legs are powerfully built. They can reach six feet long, with a tail another two and a half feet long, and a top weight around 250 pounds.


Behavior: The jaguar is most abundant around rivers or other bodies of water, and it is a good swimmer. The jaguar hunts on the ground and in trees. Its prey varies from tapirs to monkeys, to tortoises, and also includes livestock. It is solitary and only forms pairs for the brief courtship and mating season, which occurs in the spring further north and at any time of the year in the tropics.

Reproduction: Gestation lasts about 95 days after which two to four young are born. They nurse for three or four months and remain with the mother for about two years

Note: Because of man's interference - particularly through hunting and the destruction of the jaguars’ habitat - the number of jaguars has been drastically reduced, and the species is becoming seriously endangered.

35 posted on 01/05/2004 11:03:51 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
Puma (or mountain lion, or panther, or couger):

Jaguar (in Latin America):


36 posted on 01/05/2004 11:08:06 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
37 posted on 01/06/2004 3:03:55 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: rustbucket
At the web site Strange Cosmos there is a series of three pictures of a bear killed by an Alaskan ranger. The ranger was hunting elk when the bear charged. The bear was over 12 ft. and a thousand pounds. The first picture was of the ranger and the bears head. The second was the Ranger holding up the bears paw. The third was of the guy the bear had previously eaten.
In the city we may be at the top of the food chain, but in the woods,to lions and tigers and bears, oh my, we are food.
What was the name of the bear expert that would walk with bears? He would go right up to them etc. It was because he 'understood' them. He and his girlfriend got eaten by a bear. May God have mercy on them. I remember the story. The bear had kept parts to eat later. The parts were seen by helicopter near the campsite of the expert and the bear was shot. NOT the bear's fault. It was just being a bear. Just like cougars are cougars.
So when some idiot releases cougars next to a kids camp I would take a scene from "The Ghost and the Darkness". I would stake out the person responsible near the kid's camp fence. The lions would then be drawn to the struggles of the person. Then I would, if I was still awake, shoot the lion. O.K., so I am kidding. But I would make sure my kid never went near that area.

38 posted on 01/06/2004 4:59:17 AM PST by IrishCatholic
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To: GladesGuru
Thanks for some useful info here. Is it true that a lion will hang around a recent kill. There is a lion or two roaming within and around Arcata and Eureka killing livestock and pets. One was shot by a trapper near a recent llama kill here...
39 posted on 01/06/2004 6:11:15 AM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: Risa
The parkpersons are surely ridiculous, even dishonest, and are defrauding and endangering the public. But how does this relate to global warming? regards, risa
We are dealing with liberals here. If they make a claim, it must be true.
40 posted on 01/06/2004 6:19:56 AM PST by wjcsux (If Gingrich is a Newt, Gephardt is a Dick.)
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