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Bill Maxwell is on the right track and as soon as he drops the racism crutch, he'll begin to see the fruits of his labor. He seemed to get it but has reverted to throwing the race-card into the equation. It is an election year, however, this pandering to the Left is self-defeating

July 2001 - Bill Maxwell: We have no leaders to save our black men ***In every part of the nation -- Miami, Cincinnati, Chicago, Newark, Los Angeles, New York, New Orleans, Houston, Atlanta -- many black males seem determined to self-destruct. We will not gain ground by blaming whites for this sorry state of affairs. This is a crisis of our own making, and only we can fix it. Our collective lethargy -- our lack of rage -- is the greatest sin. Fixing this problem should be at the top of every black person's agenda.***

Clarence Page: What black parents must do now ... ***With those findings and many others in mind, we should never make too much of the impact that teen culture may have on achievement. But we certainly shouldn't make too little of it, either.

Your attitude, in large measure, determines your altitude, as I once heard Jesse Jackson say. Your first step in achieving is to believe that you can achieve.

There is no shame in the mere fact that some groups show different levels of interest and performance in education and other skills. It is only a shame if the low performers don't do something to improve.

Asian-Americans outperform whites academically, for example, yet no one blames racism for white "underachievement." Similarly, the rest of us should not reject useful insights about our children, either, even when it is a little painful to hear.

By facing obvious realities openly and honestly, we can begin to encourage a self-image among black youths that will help them to value their brains as much as their basketballs or the "bling-bling" and "ching-ching" of rap stars on MTV and BET.***

October 2003 - Walter Williams: No excuses part II*** Here's my question: Do parents, particularly black parents, know or even care about what's being done to their children in the name of education? Do they know that the A or B on their children's report card is worthless? Don't say the solution lies in more money unless you're prepared to show me great results with expenditures of $15,000 per student in Massachusetts and $13,000 in Washington, D.C., and skyrocketing education budgets elsewhere.***

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1 posted on 01/05/2004 1:53:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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3 posted on 01/05/2004 2:37:16 AM PST by liberallyconservative ("I'm a politician ergo I'm a cheat & a liar. If I'm not kissin babies Im stealin their lollipops.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Talk about role models, I just watched the Sugar Bowl. That Snoop Doggy Dog person was featured during many commercial breaks.

I couldn't understand a word he said.

4 posted on 01/05/2004 2:52:27 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Maxwell’s logic is flawed as he equates “college enrollment” with “education.”
9 posted on 01/05/2004 4:35:39 AM PST by bimbo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
a parenting initiative has to be established, an initiative that forces parents and children to become introspective and diligent.

What sort of "initiative" is it that "forces" parents to do this or that with their children? Who is in charge of such an initiative, and what sort of things do they get to "force" parents to do?

Curiousity and a thirst for knowledge must come from inside; these are qualities that cannot be "forced" on anyone.

I dunno. Sounds to me like just another gubment program where the smart people wearing suits want to play at animal husbandry with the po' folks. Haven't we had enough of those already? Isn't that how we got here in the first place?


11 posted on 01/05/2004 5:05:14 AM PST by Nick Danger ( With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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we cannot afford to live as victims

If Maxwell would get off of racism as a crutch, I think we could have a meeting of the minds.

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12 posted on 01/05/2004 5:28:42 AM PST by mhking (My brother and I had never seen The Belt........but we had heard about it....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Several years ago, the University of Georgia established the African-American Male Initiative, a research program with the purpose of removing the hurdles to college enrollment and graduation for black men.

Such as grades or studying or working?

13 posted on 01/05/2004 5:32:56 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The obstacles to black males earning college degrees are many, some seemingly intractable. They include:

inferior public education before college -- Destroy the unions, end government invovlement in education
the absence of black men as role models -- Blacks need to work on that
low expectations from teachers and other adults
-- "other adults"? A flaw in black culture, they need to fix it
low self-esteem -- Got it backwards. Achieve success and self-esteem will follow
black men's own low aspirations -- Blacks need to work on that
and their tendency to drop out of high school in disproportionate numbers. -- Blacks need to work on that

I don't see Racism as a contributing factor here at all.

15 posted on 01/05/2004 5:38:14 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
White men, on the other hand, graduated at a rate of 59 percent

Buried in the article is this statistic which I find very telling. Even among the "privileged" there is a 41% failure rate. There is something very wrong with the whole system of college admissions if this is true.

16 posted on 01/05/2004 5:42:36 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free" - A. E. Van Vogt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"our lack of rage -- is the greatest sin"

"black men make up 41 percent of the inmates in federal state, and local prison"

Trust me, a lack of rage is not the problem, and more rage is not going to fix it.

17 posted on 01/05/2004 5:45:26 AM PST by JasonC
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
. . . black men's own low aspirations . . .

Exactly what are young men supposed to aspire to when the only males in their lives are occasional studs who sleep over with mama? Since Daniel Patrick Moynihan issued his warning that the black family was in danger of collapse, the very worst has happened. Today 70% of black kids are born into single-parent female-headed "families," and many of the others end up in broken homes as well. Without male guidance, the girls turn out like their mothers and the boys end up on the streets until the police stick them in jail. It's no surprise at all. The few who make it out of this madness are the surprises.

18 posted on 01/05/2004 5:45:47 AM PST by madprof98
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Powerful black executives that most Americans have never heard of.
21 posted on 01/05/2004 6:27:49 AM PST by metesky (My investment program is still holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One factor that is rarely raised in such studies or articles is discipline, parental and self. Go to any mall or other public gathering place where there are parents and children of different ethnic backgrounds and you will observe a general pattern of behavior in which the Asian children are the best behaved with the trend following the academic statistics cited in the article. A similar correlation involving the age of the mothers would likely emerge as teenage mothers merely by the youth of motherhood suggests the lack of respect for self discipline.
23 posted on 01/05/2004 6:46:09 AM PST by monocle
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It is called "diversity." DIversity brings in people of different races who have no business in college, in order to enhance the racial mix and feel good about themselves.
30 posted on 01/05/2004 7:28:02 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For my Minority Group Relations Class reading. Thanks!
31 posted on 01/05/2004 9:51:54 AM PST by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If we can keep it!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The problem isn't the colleges, it's the primary and high schools. If Maxwell had a backbone, he'd go after them.
34 posted on 01/05/2004 11:16:38 AM PST by Tribune7
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Time to keep more whites out of college. Must be **fair**. Grant degrees for stopping by the Office Of Degree Granting some time during the four years after admission to the school. Whites must get 3.9 or better GPA and attend all classes with perfect attendance for degree. Move along... nothing unusual here... Just being fair...
35 posted on 01/05/2004 11:20:35 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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Today I filed suit against the National Football League and the National Basketball Association claiming that I have been discriminated against based on my race and age.

Since the percentage of black NFL players per team has now reached 98% (there are a few QB's and Euro kickers left on each team - referred to as token whites) I cannot get a job in my chosen profession.

That's right. I am a 58 year old white, anglo-saxon Protestant who would like to play wide receiver for an NFL team.

I believe punitive damages in this case should be commensurate with my ability or roughly worth say $200 million dollars. With a similar lawsuit against the NBA I should be able to retire nicely and afford my own domed stadium.

60 posted on 01/05/2004 1:52:51 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's the colleges' fault for having such racist admission policies. Wait a second. Ummm... It's still gotsta be some white man's fault...
83 posted on 01/05/2004 2:51:28 PM PST by Conservomax (shill: One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into part)
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First of all, not everyone needs to go to college. Nothing at all wrong with being a blue collar worker. The country needs lots of trades people.

A terrible societal dis-service is done by making people think they're nothing if they don't go to college. Only a few university programs give graduates hope of a white collar career. Most do nothing in the way of providing a young person with the tools necessary to support themselves and a family.

Whats wrong with vo-tech? A brick mason with a little ambition can become the owner of a variety of different construction related busineses. Most any tradesperson can progress to being a businessperson without requiring multi-million dollar venture capital funding.

106 posted on 01/06/2004 5:19:18 AM PST by fso301
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