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Pubbie | 1/04/04 | Pubbie

[txdoda]

actually, the title of the thread isn't the same as the WP title, which is pretty benign:

Bush to Seek Immigrant Benefit Protection >>>>>>>

Guess, 'pubbie' didn't want this thread confused with another thread, & to get the 'critters' addresses on-board.

There was a thread "Bush to Seek Immigrant Protection" earlier, but it was sent to 'the backroom' after the 'flamers' invaded it.

[Luis Gonzalez]

You haven't read it.

No one has.

I've followed the discussion surrounding the proposed Social Security normalization treaty with Mexico, that's been going on for quite some time, and those treaties have been commonplace for three decades.

But you lied when you claimed that you read the proposal on the legalization of mestizos.

It's obvious.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Post a link to the proposal.

P.S. This IS a conservative site.

[navyblue]

Tancredo is a nut. No one listens to him.

I think he has about sixty members of the house in the immigration reform caucus listening to him!

Not too bad for a nut, huh?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Actually the article merely triggered an on-going debate. This issue dates back for some time. For me it dates to the 1986 amnesty. We thought it would work. It did not. More than ever came ILLEGALLY. Most posters know the history.

I am well aware that amnesty is said to be not in the works. But I oppose almost ALL forms of legalizing the ILLEGALS from ALL countries.

Nevertheless amnesty has been on the table. For example, as others have noted in these threads there is the matter of the 245i amnesty. It failed due to the public outcry. We are again merely exercising our responsibilities. People called us names then also. Big deal. Here is just one link to that 2002 story.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C47758%2C00.html

I am well aware how much Hispanics have contributed as Americans including the numerous winners of the Medal of Honor.

My wife is Latina and now an American. We married in Madrid where I lived and met her. We played by the rules. She knows a few ILLEGALS, mostly from South America, who are dear friends of hers, working and contributing here. She has also met ILLEGALS who think that we are fools and they delight in getting away with all they can. She is sad for her friends that this is happening but agrees that it is a real problem. I say enough is enough.

[Howlin]

And if more of these illegal aliens are allowed to settle here permanently, they eventually will open up their own businesses but will have a hard time finding people willing to work in their culturally different work environment. The point is to avoid their settling here and we would not be having this discussion tonight.

That sounds like you don't want them here in any way, shape, or form.

What the hell is a "culturally different work environment?"

[lonewacko_dot_com]

"the very idea is actually laughable since by their very nature, illegal aliens who worked in the US can't actually prove that they paid into the SSA."

A lot of things related to immigration are laughable, yet most politicians seem to not be laughing.

Just because they can't prove anything doesn't mean anything, the Mexican government will ask anyway, and might even get its way. See, for instance, the previous amnesty's farm worker requirement which required little or no proof of having been a farm worker.

[Howlin]

She has also met ILLEGALS who think that we are fools and they delight in getting away with all they can.

There are native born Americans in this country that feel the exact same way.

[lonewacko_dot_com]

A significant percentage just overstay their visa. Not all of them come across the desert.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Where's the text of the upcoming proposal you claimed to have read?

[djreece]

marking

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Just because they can't prove anything doesn't mean anything"

Please, don't take me for a fool.

Of course there are guidelines, and proof MUST be offered before qualifying for payment.

[lonewacko_dot_com]

"What the hell is a "culturally different work environment?"

I frequent a couple of El Pollo Locos in L.A. At one, everyone who works there is Hispanic. They speak Spanish except to some of the customers. At another EPL, one of the guys I saw working there once was Armenian. However, he spoke Spanish. Does that qualify?

[lonewacko_dot_com]

"Of course there are guidelines, and proof MUST be offered before qualifying for payment."

That'd be nice. Unfortunately, it would be racist (not to mention mean-spirited) to ask for proof. Therefore, we must play by Vicente's rules, and, if this plan become reality, little proof would be required.

[chicagolady]

You must be either a troll or a disrupter

ACTUALLY, I think he is both!!

[Howlin]

No, it does not. If that offends you, go somewhere else.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Totally agree with post #9. Whatever happened to the good old idyllic days when hard-working immigrants sat patiently in line with their papers and went through the hoops?

Then when it was all done they were so proud to be Americans....

[chicagolady]

PLEASE e-mail these folks!

It's NOW or NEVER! Fight Illegal Alien Take over!

[ServesURight]

Yeah, back in the late 1800s and early 20th Century. When men were men and women were women. Taking all their possessions and crossing the pond in their rickety boat. Hard-scrabble, down on their luck, coming to America with their bare hands making the finest products of the world.

Bush is totally destroying the basic concepts of immigration as we know it with his plan. If this passes, I for one will definetly sign up and become a dues-paying Constitution Party member.