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Mirror ^ | 1-3-04 | Edwards, Smith, Knight

Posted on 01/03/2004 12:02:22 PM PST by doug from upland

Edited on 01/03/2004 4:48:16 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SHE BOMBER

Jan 3 2004

By Jeff Edwards, Justine Smith And Dawn Knight

A BA flight to Washington was cancelled at the last minute yesterday after an intelligence tip-off that a woman suicide bomber planned to blow up the plane over the US capital.

It was the third day running that a major security scare had hit the afternoon Flight 223 service from Heathrow to Washington.

US security services told Scotland Yard the woman - almost certainly linked to al-Qaeda - intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina. She would then go to the toilet during the Boeing 747 flight, remove the material and detonate a blast that would down the aircraft.

A senior Yard source told the Daily Mirror: "Smuggling a bomb on to a plane by this method is one of our worst nightmares.

"If you do not have specific information about the suspect, it would be impossible to carry out an intimate body search of every female passenger."

The source said intelligence information indicated only that an attack was planned for "sometime over the holiday period".

Apparently, a particular BA flight number was at risk. The source added: "Because the intelligence did not identify a passenger by name, it was decided to disrupt the plot by cancelling the flights."

Defence analyst Paul Beaver said: "We have got intelligence, I am told, that there was a plan to take the aircraft and destroy it over Washington or fly it into something."

Yesterday's cancellation of the 3.05pm London-Washington service came less than two hours before take-off time.

BA had already checked in most of the 180 passengers for a plane that can take 490 when full. After advice and deliberation, the firm aborted flight 223 at 1.15pm.

The same flight had been grounded on Thursday after the US intelligence was passed to the Yard.

And on Wednesday, the afternoon service to Washington was escorted in to Dulles airport by F-16 fighter jets. The pilot was ordered to taxi to a spot far from the terminal, where the terrified 247 passengers were detained for three hours without being told why. Security officers questioned travellers, paying particular interest to a woman who appeared Arabic. Nobody was arrested.

Fears of another September 11 attack have heightened in recent weeks and prompted controversial British government plans to put armed air marshals on some flights.

Yesterday BA apologised to passengers who had checked in for the inconvenience, but did not tell them of the specific threat.

A statement said: "Following the latest advice from the UK Government received this afternoon, British Airways has cancelled today's flight BA223 from London Heathrow to Washington due to security reasons.

"It is expected that other flights across the British Airways network will operate as normal today."

Keith Holeman, 47, trying to get home to Alabama via Washington after a holiday in the UK with his wife and children, said: "We've been given no extra information, and we don't know what we're risking."

Defence expert Beaver spoke of a "real threat" as news emerged of the latest flight 223 scare. He said: "This is certainly unusual. The intelligence is very, very precise, which is why this one flight has been cancelled.

"Washington is the definite target. All I know is there is a real and definite threat."

Mr Beaver said al-Qaeda was known to have cells in America and one in Europe, either in London or Paris. The US revealed more details about the drama at Dulles early on New Year's Day as flight 223 passengers were kept on the runway following the fighter escort.

A security official said the decision was based on facts, not just suspicions over passenger names. He said: "We had concerns with individuals on the flight, but threat-reporting information led us to make the decision to have the flight escorted.

The official stressed it was "fact-related" and not just connected to the passenger list the US now receives from airlines flying in.

An Aeromexico flight from Mexico City to Los Angeles, believed numbered 223, had also been cancelled after US authorities refused to allow it to land.

Passengers from Thursday's aborted trip were transferred to alternative flights, but only after rigorous security screening.

Three Air France flights from Paris to Los Angeles were cancelled just before Christmas over fears of an al-Qaeda hijack plot. However one of the suspicious names on the passenger list which triggered alarm turned out to be a Welsh insurance agent.

Another, feared to be a Tunisian terror leader, was in fact a child.

A third was an elderly Chinese woman and the other three were French citizens.

BA was yesterday struggling to find alternative transport for the passengers left stranded in London. William Mallett, 38, his wife, Cathy Lewis and their son Jack, from Ashford, Middlesex, were making their way through passport control as the news came.

Mrs Lewis said: "The staff said they wouldn't be checking us in unless there was a very good chance the flight was going to go."

Mr Mallett, a transport consultant now living with his family in Arlington, Virginia, said: "I have been telling myself that if they are paying attention to this flight in particular, that is a good thing.

"But if there was a terrorist aboard would they shoot us down?"

Some stranded passengers were told BA could not accommodate them all.

A letter from the airline to travellers trying to check in at Heathrow on a later flight said: "Please accept sincere apologies for the disruption to your travel arrangements.

"We have prioritised passengers who were booked on the cancelled BA223 yesterday (Thursday)."

The British Airports Authority said there did not appear to be a problem with flight 223 passengers, but the flight itself.

A spokeswoman said: "It's the scheduled flight, not the passengers, that is causing the security delays." Today's BA flight from Heathrow to Saudi capital Riyadh and the return trip have been scrapped for security reasons.

Home Secretary David Blunkett held talks with US Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge yesterday to discuss ways to minimise disruption on flights to America.

The Home Office said the talks had been "very useful", but no specific plans had emerged during the telephone conversation.

-A CHILEAN was removed from a Madrid-Luton flight on Thursday night after he started talking loudly about the "end of the world".

He was later found with two penknives which had escaped screening detection. The man was taken into custody for questioning. The flight took off at 10.30pm, an hour later than scheduled.

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To: doug from upland
I don't know how to prevent this in a way that would not violate personal rights.

Ultrasound.

81 posted on 01/03/2004 12:43:38 PM PST by e_engineer
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To: ppaul
Ah yes, the old center fuel tank trick again.
82 posted on 01/03/2004 12:43:50 PM PST by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: MissAmericanPie
Didn't Reid have less than 12 oz in his shoe bomb?
83 posted on 01/03/2004 12:44:09 PM PST by zeaal
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To: doug from upland
US security services told Scotland Yard the woman - almost certainly linked to al-Qaeda - intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina. She would then go to the toilet during the Boeing 747 flight, remove the material and detonate a blast that would down the aircraft.

Oh, the humanity, now we have to fear the vagina!

What has civilization led itself to?

Nuclear Holocaust? Be firm and accept second place.

84 posted on 01/03/2004 12:44:53 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: doug from upland
I don't want to discuss more details.

I'm hip to that, and understand completely. This one worries me somewhat, but I also know that if someone really wants to kill some folks without regard for themselves, there isn't a whole heckuva a lot we can do about it.

85 posted on 01/03/2004 12:45:40 PM PST by numberonepal
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To: zeaal
He had about 10 oz.
86 posted on 01/03/2004 12:45:59 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
Okay, that's it...I am NOT going to fly, since a gynecological exam, at my OB-GYN's doesn't cost as much as a plane ticket.
87 posted on 01/03/2004 12:46:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: cyncooper
Another element from the New Year's Eve plane, was heavy focus on passengers proving their seating assignment.

Since the plane landed safely, they must have surmised the C4 or Semtex had been left at a seat. No doubt they checked the seating area of every suspicious passenger.

88 posted on 01/03/2004 12:46:29 PM PST by angkor
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To: EGPWS
I guess they need to do an update of THE VAGINA MONOLOGUES.
89 posted on 01/03/2004 12:46:52 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: MissAmericanPie
She could easily blow out a window and kill a few nearby passengers, unless she's an inpet fool like Richard Reid. I don't believe this would be a catastrophic event, but it would make for an uncomfortable and scary flight.

If she could get into the cockpit she could blow out the front windows and possibly disable the controls entirely. That's a lot of ifs, though. I carry an M203 grenade launcher, which has a 40mm round roughly half the size of a coffee mug. An HE round going off inside the cockpit of an aircraft would kill everyone inside and render that aircraft inoperable.

I don't know much about the structural weak points of a large aircraft, though. If the explosive was shaped correctly it would be more effective, but that would depend on what effect she's trying to cause. If it's simply to make a hole in the side of the plane, 12 oz probably won't be that big a deal. If she intends to kill the pilots, that's more likely to bring down the plane.

90 posted on 01/03/2004 12:47:16 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Darth Revan? Me? Why no, I'm just a fine upstanding young Jedi Knight.)
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To: e_engineer
Ultrasound.

I was thinking of a resonant method, e.g., electromagnetic, but ultrasound might do the same thing.

(I've made lots of electromagnetic models, but I must admit I've never made an EM model of [that]" LOL)

91 posted on 01/03/2004 12:47:26 PM PST by bcoffey
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To: EGPWS
Oh, the humanity, now we have to fear the vagina!

Any real man has always had a healthy fear and love for it IMHO.

92 posted on 01/03/2004 12:48:00 PM PST by numberonepal
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To: All
Sorry in advance for this --


93 posted on 01/03/2004 12:49:30 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Peach
I hate to see how the bomb sniffing dogs would react.
94 posted on 01/03/2004 12:50:16 PM PST by Bogey78O (If Mary Jo Kopechne had lived she'd support Ted Kennedy's medicare agenda! /sarcasm)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
US security services told Scotland Yard the woman - almost certainly linked to al-Qaeda - intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina. She would then go to the toilet during the Boeing 747 flight, remove the material and detonate a blast that would down the aircraft.

New requirements to fly: Cavity Searches!

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

95 posted on 01/03/2004 12:50:55 PM PST by mhking (My brother and I had never seen The Belt........but we had heard about it....)
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To: Eva
If you think that was cold, you should be here right now, we have a high of 22 degrees and north winds.

You obviously are not a seasonal visitor to "God's Country" in Minnesota!

22 degree's?

Mmm, perhaps it's time to wash the car while it's still warm.

96 posted on 01/03/2004 12:51:09 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: numberonepal
And think about the bomb sniffing dogs
97 posted on 01/03/2004 12:51:15 PM PST by woofie
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To: Steel Wolf
I carry an M203 grenade launcher, which has a 40mm round roughly half the size of a coffee mug.

Tough commute to work?

98 posted on 01/03/2004 12:52:08 PM PST by breakem
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To: mhking
Damn!
99 posted on 01/03/2004 12:52:45 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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To: Bogey78O
My brain inadvertantly picked up your dog sniffing coment..my apolgies
100 posted on 01/03/2004 12:53:04 PM PST by woofie
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