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SHE BOMBER
Mirror ^ | 1-3-04 | Edwards, Smith, Knight

Posted on 01/03/2004 12:02:22 PM PST by doug from upland

Edited on 01/03/2004 4:48:16 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SHE BOMBER

Jan 3 2004

By Jeff Edwards, Justine Smith And Dawn Knight

A BA flight to Washington was cancelled at the last minute yesterday after an intelligence tip-off that a woman suicide bomber planned to blow up the plane over the US capital.

It was the third day running that a major security scare had hit the afternoon Flight 223 service from Heathrow to Washington.

US security services told Scotland Yard the woman - almost certainly linked to al-Qaeda - intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina. She would then go to the toilet during the Boeing 747 flight, remove the material and detonate a blast that would down the aircraft.

A senior Yard source told the Daily Mirror: "Smuggling a bomb on to a plane by this method is one of our worst nightmares.

"If you do not have specific information about the suspect, it would be impossible to carry out an intimate body search of every female passenger."

The source said intelligence information indicated only that an attack was planned for "sometime over the holiday period".

Apparently, a particular BA flight number was at risk. The source added: "Because the intelligence did not identify a passenger by name, it was decided to disrupt the plot by cancelling the flights."

Defence analyst Paul Beaver said: "We have got intelligence, I am told, that there was a plan to take the aircraft and destroy it over Washington or fly it into something."

Yesterday's cancellation of the 3.05pm London-Washington service came less than two hours before take-off time.

BA had already checked in most of the 180 passengers for a plane that can take 490 when full. After advice and deliberation, the firm aborted flight 223 at 1.15pm.

The same flight had been grounded on Thursday after the US intelligence was passed to the Yard.

And on Wednesday, the afternoon service to Washington was escorted in to Dulles airport by F-16 fighter jets. The pilot was ordered to taxi to a spot far from the terminal, where the terrified 247 passengers were detained for three hours without being told why. Security officers questioned travellers, paying particular interest to a woman who appeared Arabic. Nobody was arrested.

Fears of another September 11 attack have heightened in recent weeks and prompted controversial British government plans to put armed air marshals on some flights.

Yesterday BA apologised to passengers who had checked in for the inconvenience, but did not tell them of the specific threat.

A statement said: "Following the latest advice from the UK Government received this afternoon, British Airways has cancelled today's flight BA223 from London Heathrow to Washington due to security reasons.

"It is expected that other flights across the British Airways network will operate as normal today."

Keith Holeman, 47, trying to get home to Alabama via Washington after a holiday in the UK with his wife and children, said: "We've been given no extra information, and we don't know what we're risking."

Defence expert Beaver spoke of a "real threat" as news emerged of the latest flight 223 scare. He said: "This is certainly unusual. The intelligence is very, very precise, which is why this one flight has been cancelled.

"Washington is the definite target. All I know is there is a real and definite threat."

Mr Beaver said al-Qaeda was known to have cells in America and one in Europe, either in London or Paris. The US revealed more details about the drama at Dulles early on New Year's Day as flight 223 passengers were kept on the runway following the fighter escort.

A security official said the decision was based on facts, not just suspicions over passenger names. He said: "We had concerns with individuals on the flight, but threat-reporting information led us to make the decision to have the flight escorted.

The official stressed it was "fact-related" and not just connected to the passenger list the US now receives from airlines flying in.

An Aeromexico flight from Mexico City to Los Angeles, believed numbered 223, had also been cancelled after US authorities refused to allow it to land.

Passengers from Thursday's aborted trip were transferred to alternative flights, but only after rigorous security screening.

Three Air France flights from Paris to Los Angeles were cancelled just before Christmas over fears of an al-Qaeda hijack plot. However one of the suspicious names on the passenger list which triggered alarm turned out to be a Welsh insurance agent.

Another, feared to be a Tunisian terror leader, was in fact a child.

A third was an elderly Chinese woman and the other three were French citizens.

BA was yesterday struggling to find alternative transport for the passengers left stranded in London. William Mallett, 38, his wife, Cathy Lewis and their son Jack, from Ashford, Middlesex, were making their way through passport control as the news came.

Mrs Lewis said: "The staff said they wouldn't be checking us in unless there was a very good chance the flight was going to go."

Mr Mallett, a transport consultant now living with his family in Arlington, Virginia, said: "I have been telling myself that if they are paying attention to this flight in particular, that is a good thing.

"But if there was a terrorist aboard would they shoot us down?"

Some stranded passengers were told BA could not accommodate them all.

A letter from the airline to travellers trying to check in at Heathrow on a later flight said: "Please accept sincere apologies for the disruption to your travel arrangements.

"We have prioritised passengers who were booked on the cancelled BA223 yesterday (Thursday)."

The British Airports Authority said there did not appear to be a problem with flight 223 passengers, but the flight itself.

A spokeswoman said: "It's the scheduled flight, not the passengers, that is causing the security delays." Today's BA flight from Heathrow to Saudi capital Riyadh and the return trip have been scrapped for security reasons.

Home Secretary David Blunkett held talks with US Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge yesterday to discuss ways to minimise disruption on flights to America.

The Home Office said the talks had been "very useful", but no specific plans had emerged during the telephone conversation.

-A CHILEAN was removed from a Madrid-Luton flight on Thursday night after he started talking loudly about the "end of the world".

He was later found with two penknives which had escaped screening detection. The man was taken into custody for questioning. The flight took off at 10.30pm, an hour later than scheduled.

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To: doug from upland
I recall discussing the possibility of butt bombers after the Richard Reid incident and decided I would not fly until every passenger was given a complete body probe.
201 posted on 01/03/2004 1:39:21 PM PST by mindspy
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To: _Jim
perzactly
202 posted on 01/03/2004 1:39:38 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Steel Wolf
The relative amount of explosive is governed by altitude and cabin pressure.

Low amount needed at higher altitudes and vice versa.
203 posted on 01/03/2004 1:40:15 PM PST by NickinAM (Be Safe!)
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To: mindspy
Clinton had buttboys. They have buttbombers.
204 posted on 01/03/2004 1:40:26 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: leadpenny
Nope, the neighborhood and anybody else that came along.
205 posted on 01/03/2004 1:40:35 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
LOL! Better hope she doesn't read that!
206 posted on 01/03/2004 1:40:43 PM PST by snopercod (Wishing y'all a prosperous, happy, and FREE new year!)
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To: doug from upland
intended to hide eight to 12 ounces of plastic explosive in her vagina.

Sheesh. Tampons are bad enough. But explosives!?!?!?! Well, I guess it makes for an easy fuse. If your cramps are that bad, honey, take some Midol. ;)

207 posted on 01/03/2004 1:41:14 PM PST by rintense
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To: snopercod
Or her lawyer.
208 posted on 01/03/2004 1:41:47 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: BurbankKarl
if the males get 72 virgins, what do the women get?

144 D-cells.

209 posted on 01/03/2004 1:42:10 PM PST by Redcloak (°¿°)
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To: U S Army EOD
I hear ya. Been there too.
210 posted on 01/03/2004 1:42:12 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: rintense
No, it would be too moist for a fuse. That is the problem that happened to Richard Reid.
211 posted on 01/03/2004 1:42:40 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: leadpenny
You know her too!!!!!!
212 posted on 01/03/2004 1:43:15 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Peach
There are probably cameras in the lavs on planes.

Maybe a last-minute bathroom break before landing is what diverted that plane to Canada a few days ago.

213 posted on 01/03/2004 1:43:18 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: rintense
Why hasn't anybody suggested we simply remove the restroom doors, put up a curtain for privacy and install security cameras in each head?
214 posted on 01/03/2004 1:43:20 PM PST by Sweetpkl (Sometimes even good folks do dumb things...)
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To: doug from upland
Why limit the concern to women? I'm sure there are plenty of Jihadist men who would be willing to undergo certain "conditioning" enough to accomodate even more C4 than an average woman.

The recruiting probably would begin in San Francisco, where certain extreme practices have an expanding effect.

I suppose he would be known as the "Poo-Bomber". Or "Shiite Bomber".
215 posted on 01/03/2004 1:43:42 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: doug from upland
You need more than a fuse folks!

But then FR has the ability to turn anything into a fuse and explosive session
216 posted on 01/03/2004 1:44:08 PM PST by NickinAM (Be Safe!)
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To: NickinAM
Reid attempted to light the fuse and could not due to sweat having dampened the fuses.

I know what 8 - 12 onces of plastic exposives can do. I've seen many explosive shots on the range. I was a munitions troop in the AF for many years.

Reid needs more than a fuse to set off C4 or Semtex. He needs an explosive train to set it off and a fuse alone will not do it. Shock has to be applied - an explosion to set off the main charge. That fuse was probably crimped to a blasting cap.

However, I never heard about the blasting cap in the news and I have always wondered if Reid just didn't know what he was doing.

Have no fear, this will bring down a plane.

I never had a doubt.

217 posted on 01/03/2004 1:45:09 PM PST by demlosers (Light weight and flexible - radiation shielding is solved.)
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To: Semper911
What sucks is that if a terrorist is ever successful at a plot like this, we will never know about it. We will just know that a plane crashed.

We'd know, in a couple of hours. n-Nitrosamines and other post-blast products are very detectable, in the part-per-billion range. And when a "piece of meat" was found with extremely high levels, then comes DNA.

We would know who, and with what. PBA can diffrentiate between RDX/PETN etc. quite easily.

218 posted on 01/03/2004 1:45:15 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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To: U S Army EOD
I thought you'd take it that way. :)

No, I had my own to deal with.
219 posted on 01/03/2004 1:45:39 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Johnny_Cipher
Good one, reminds me of T-shirts we had made in high school for our Street Home Improvement Team.
220 posted on 01/03/2004 1:46:43 PM PST by ALASKA (Bush 2004, Rice 2008/20012)
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