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That Parent-Child Conversation Is Becoming Instant, and Online
NYT via Excite News ^ | January 3, 2004 | JOHN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 01/03/2004 5:00:23 AM PST by leadpencil1

Nina Gordon types out an instant message and sends it. The data travels some 500 miles, from the computer in her living room in Queens to America Online's servers in Northern Virginia, and then to her son Schuyler's computer, which just happens to be in the next room — about 20 feet away from where she is sitting.

you hungry for dinner?

After a little online banter over dining options, her son, a 17-year-old with a wicked sense of humor and no shortage of attitude, sends his request:

an insty pizza and a beer

don't push your luck, comes the reply.

Instant messaging, long a part of teenagers' lives, is working its way into the broader fabric of the American family. The technology "has really grown up in the last 18 months," said Michael Gartenberg, vice president and research director at Jupiter Research. "It's certainly not just for kids anymore."

Almost three-quarters of all teenagers with online access use instant messaging and about half of all adults have tried the services, surveys show. Adults, who generally began using the services from AOL, Microsoft and Yahoo to stay in touch with co-workers during the day, Mr. Gartenberg said, are saying "this stuff I'm using for work is actually useful in my personal life as well."

Use among adults has grown to include friends and far-flung family members, particularly children away at college. AOL, which provides the most popular service, reports that more than one billion instant messages each day flow through its networks.

And now, as families own more than one computer, the machines spread beyond the den and home networks relying on wireless connections become increasingly popular, instant messaging is taking root within the home itself.

Although it might seem lazy or silly to send electronic messages instead of getting out of a chair and walking into the next room, some psychologists say that the role of the technology within families can be remarkably positive. In many cases, they say, the messages are helping to break down the interpersonal barriers that often prevent open communication.

"Conversation between parents and teenagers could be highly emotional and not necessarily productive," said Elisheva F. Gross, a psychology researcher at the Children's Digital Media Center at the University of California at Los Angeles. When young people are online, however, "it's their turf," she said. "It may be a way for parents to communicate in a language and in a space that their children are more comfortable with."

Teenagers already use online communications to take on difficult topics with one another, said Katelyn McKenna, a research assistant professor in psychology at New York University. Preliminary results from a study she conducted last year, she said, suggest that "they are able to talk with one another about issues that bother them more readily online than when they are talking face to face."

Lissa Parsonnet said that her daughter, Dorrie, is sometimes more open to talking with her and her husband online about difficult subjects, like conflicts with friends, than in person.

"She talks to us as if we're people, not parents," she said.

Ms. Parsonnet, a psychotherapist, said that the online back channel strips away some of the parts of face-to-face communication that complicate matters: "They don't see your face turning red," she said. "They don't see you turning cross — all the things that will shut them up immediately."

Both instant messages and e-mail messages can help smooth things over after a fight, said Nora Gross, a 17-year-old in Manhattan who said that electronic communications had helped strengthen her relationship with her father. "I can remember a few times when we've had little blowups and sent apology letters over e-mail," she said. "We're both writers, so I guess it's easier for us to put our feelings into words through text."

While even quicker than e-mail, instant messages also have the advantage of not actually being instant, Ms. Parsonnet said, because the medium at least gives the user time to compose his or her thoughts and comments before hitting the button.

"You know all the times you wish you'd counted to 10 before you said something?" she said with a laugh. With instant messages, she said, "You have a built-in counting-to-10."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aol; im; internet; parenting; teens
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1 posted on 01/03/2004 5:00:23 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: leadpencil1
Its here to stay so if your kids are using it, get online and chat with them.
2 posted on 01/03/2004 5:04:51 AM PST by leadpencil1
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3 posted on 01/03/2004 5:06:01 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: leadpencil1
I hatehatehate instant messages. It's one reason I was glad to drop AOL, way back when. Who knew there were so many serial pesterers out there?
4 posted on 01/03/2004 5:08:28 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: leadpencil1
Not only is it here to stay but it is about to make distance virtually meaningless. Through wireless PDAs (though they will be called something else by then), you will be able to communicate with anybody in the world in real time - not just with text but through video and audio as well. That is, you could have a son living 3,000 miles away but you could still talk to him and his family on a daily basis - as if they lived right down the street.

5 posted on 01/03/2004 5:11:14 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: hellinahandcart
I never really hated it like it seems you do. Anyone who messages me whom I do not have saved in my buddy list generates a pop up asking me if I want to talk to so and so. If I don't recognize the name, I deep six it. Doesn't happen that much, say once or twice a month.

On the plus side, I talk to my kids when they get home from school, tell my wife when I am leaving the office, and in general, stay in touch or stay available to people I care about or work with (two different things for sure) even though I am not physically present.

BTW, did you see the great pics from the party!

6 posted on 01/03/2004 5:19:11 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: SamAdams76
I think you are right and it wont be long.
7 posted on 01/03/2004 5:21:59 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: hellinahandcart
It's one reason I was glad to drop AOL, way back when

By the way, one need not be an AOL subscriber (I hate AOL as well) to use AOL's IM product.

8 posted on 01/03/2004 5:23:34 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: SamAdams76
--Not only is it here to stay but it is about to make distance virtually meaningless.--

Yes, but the distance the article refering to is about 20 feet. I think it's sad.
9 posted on 01/03/2004 5:26:28 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: leadpencil1
Anyone who messages me whom I do not have saved in my buddy list generates a pop up asking me if I want to talk to so and so.

Exactly. The pop-up and the accompanying sound is an interruption and an annoyance.

I can see the attraction they hold for kids though. When I was their age, I had a phone growing out of my ear. If I was a kid now, I'd have a phone, a pager, and multiple IM windows open at the same time.

10 posted on 01/03/2004 5:30:31 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: leadpencil1
BTW, did you see the great pics from the party!

Yes, I did, you photogenic thing, you...

11 posted on 01/03/2004 5:31:42 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: fml
Yes, but the distance the article refering to is about 20 feet. I think it's sad.

IMO,it would be sad if it was the only way you talked to you kids (or whoever), but IM chat in many cases is conversation that would not be taking place otherwise which makes it incremental, which is a good thing.

12 posted on 01/03/2004 5:32:47 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: leadpencil1
Although it might seem lazy or silly to send electronic messages instead of getting out of a chair and walking into the next room, some psychologists say that the role of the technology within families can be remarkably positive. In many cases, they say, the messages are helping to break down the interpersonal barriers that often prevent open communication.

Pardon me if I'm somewhat skeptical of this claim. The best interpersonal communication requires eye contact.

13 posted on 01/03/2004 5:34:54 AM PST by independentmind
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To: hellinahandcart
Yes, I did, you photogenic thing, you...

au contraire

14 posted on 01/03/2004 5:36:20 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: independentmind
The best interpersonal communication requires eye contact.

Agreed. See post 9.

15 posted on 01/03/2004 5:38:40 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: independentmind
I agree. Interpersonanal? It's computer communication, not very personal at all.
16 posted on 01/03/2004 5:40:59 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: leadpencil1
Teenagers already use online communications to take on difficult topics with one another, said Katelyn McKenna, a research assistant professor in psychology at New York University. Preliminary results from a study she conducted last year, she said, suggest that "they are able to talk with one another about issues that bother them more readily online than when they are talking face to face."

This is nuts! If these people had started out talking to their children and being honest with them they wouldn't have to talk "openly" with them through the computer.

17 posted on 01/03/2004 5:43:43 AM PST by raybbr
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I don't think its too far off the mark, IMHO. It could be a problem if people prefer to use IM as the only way to discuss issues with their children, but thats probably not whats happening most of the time. I do agree that if you have a crappy relationship with you kids, IM will not help you solve any communciation problem. But if its healthy to start with, IM'ing them wont hurt it either.
18 posted on 01/03/2004 5:59:08 AM PST by leadpencil1
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To: leadpencil1
IM is irreplaceable for me in keeping up with my kids when they are at their mom's house a couple of days a week. From the short, "Hows it going", "Did you finish your homework", "heading out,love you, talk later", check-in type messages to long drawn out conversations its a daily thing for us.....With 3 computers in different rooms of my house it saves on yelling too!

I've found that one of my sons is much more open and comfortable about sensitive issues in his personal life when talking through IM than when we're face to face....conversations that I never dreamed I could have had with my parents.

He even has text messageing on his mobile phone. I sent him the following message the other night: "If you want cereal tonight bring home some milk". He came strolling in the door at 11:00pm with a gallon and his first words to me were "You owe me $4"......Gotta love him!



19 posted on 01/03/2004 6:05:54 AM PST by Rebelbase (If I stay on topic for more than 2 posts something is wrong. Alert the authorities.)
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To: Rebelbase
Same experience here with my two teens. There is also the benefit of getting some insight into your teen's friends with the message logging features of IM ;-)
20 posted on 01/03/2004 6:13:56 AM PST by leadpencil1
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