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Suspects revealed al-Qaeda plot to blow up aircraft
The Times (UK) ^ | 1/03/04 | Daniel McGrory and Stewart Tendler

Posted on 01/02/2004 4:33:31 PM PST by saquin

VITAL scraps of intelligence pieced together by British agents revealed how Islamic terrorists were again intent on using aircraft for their next serious attack.

Two suspects questioned by British investigators said that an aircraft leaving a London airport would be part of this new al-Qaeda operation intended to eclipse the death toll in the September 11 attacks. One of these men is understood to have said that the attack was planned for the Christmas and new year holidays.

The revelations came as government eavesdroppers began picking up e-mails from the Middle East referring to transatlantic flights.

Al-Qaeda is desperate to stage another terrorist outrage to prove that it is still capable of orchestrating such a sophisticated and deadly operation, despite recent arrests of some of its most valued organisers.

The suspicion passed to ministers was that terrorists were intending to blow up aircraft packed with passengers returning to America after the holidays over a major city. A British security source said last night: “Such an attack would result in catastrophic loss of life, cause mayhem among travellers and give al-Qaeda the publicity they crave.”

A team of anti-terrorist officers and MI5 agents was ordered last autumn to concentrate on tracking down details of an alleged plot involving aircraft. The team identified one Briton whom they believed was a pivotal figure in this operation. They secretly monitored his telephone calls for weeks, hoping that it would lead them to the mastermind behind the plot and reveal precise details of an attack.

One intercepted conversation mentioned a flight from London bound for America’s East Coast. New York and Washington were seen as obvious targets, though US officials stretched the alert to include other cities such as Los Angeles, Chicago and Miami.

Experts say that the terrorists had three main options. They could again hijack a passenger aircraft and turn it into a flying bomb, although increased security since September 11 made that more difficult.

Another possibility was a missile attack on a fully laden aircraft as it took off and was at its most vunerable. Security officials foiled an attempt by al-Qaeda last year to attack a British holiday flight taking off from Mombassa, Kenya.

Two months ago, Saudi officials uncovered a plot to target a BA flight taking off from Riyadh with a shoulder-held missile. The weapon was found abandoned in a car close to the airport perimeter after a shoot-out with wanted terrorists in the Saudi capital.

However, senior British investigators suspect the most likely option would involve blowing up a number of aircraft in mid-air in a carefully synchronised operation. Richard Reid, a south London petty crook trained at an al-Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, was stopped by fellow passengers on a flight from Paris to Miami trying to detonate explosives hidden in his shoe in December 2001. Since then al-Qaeda operatives have allegedly been developing new ways to smuggle explosives through airport detectors.

Suspects held here and in the United States have told how these “kit bombs” would be assembled on board. Components of the bomb could be hidden in cabin luggage, concealed in shampoo and medicine bottles in a passenger’s wash bag.

Blowing up passenger aircraft in mid-air was a blueprint for al-Qaeda in the early 1990s. Osama bin Laden allegedly vetoed a plan to hijack up to 11 American airliners in the world’s biggest simultaneous hijack and detonate them above the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. The al-Qaeda leader is said to have refined this plan into the September 11 operation, arguing that if there were too many aircraft involved then details of the hijackings were more likely to leak.

Al-Qaeda has a habit of returning to plans that it failed to execute, as it did in attacking the World Trade Centre eight years after members first bombed it.

Extremist websites known to have close links with al-Qaeda have in recent weeks been giving warnings of another imminent attack aimed at embarrassing the Bush Administration.

The difficulty for the authorities is that, as they were uncertain of the exact nature of any attack, they did not know how much of this intelligence should be shared with airlines or travellers.

Kevin Rosser, a terrorism analyst at the Control Risks Group, said: “We are in a world where governments feel they have to act on scraps of information.

“If, God forbid, something terrible happens and then it emerges that governments had information of a risk but did not do anything, they would be exposed politically.”

Mr Rosser explained that it was not possible just to remove suspect passengers and then allow the rest on board to fly, as the suspect might have an associate on the flight.

Increased checks were ordered at UK airports on cargo being flown to the United States in the hold of passenger flights as well as even stricter security for travellers checking in for American-bound flights.

MI5 is said to have received information last summer of the names of two British passport holders who had been recruited for suicide attacks.

The US authorities also claimed that some of those held at Guantanamo Bay had also betrayed crucial information on how aircraft would be integral to al-Qaeda’s next significant strike.

Information from the FBI, CIA and US military intelligence was funnelled into JTAC, the newly created Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre. Set up last June, it includes officers from MI5, MI6, GCHQ, the MoD, police, the DTI and Transec, the security division of the Department of Transport. Within a few weeks of the start of JTAC’s operations Elizabeth Manningham-Buller, the head of MI5, said that the unit was already handling 150 pieces of intelligence a day.

Scotland Yard announced a new level of terrorism alert in November, placing London and other forces round the country on the second highest alert. On December 23 Tom Ridge, the US Homeland Security director, placed the United States on orange alert, the second highest of five alerts used by the American security forces.

Within days officials in Washington began warning airlines around the world that they must toughen up their onboard security and Whitehall officials and police commanders were privately briefed about new American fears of an airborne attack against an American target.

On Monday, the Government announced after discussions with Washington that police marksmen in plain clothes would join selected British flights to the United States as sky marshals. The US began putting pressure on other countries to follow suit.

Washington made it clear that flights would be intercepted or banned from US airspace if there were the slightest security concerns.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; alqaedastrategy; intellience; mi5; terrorism; threats
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To: oceanview
Make them eat a strip of bacon. Those who refuse, walk.
61 posted on 01/02/2004 7:27:06 PM PST by hollywood
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To: Travis McGee
Dunno.......seems that crashing em into the ocean with IED's or not would'nt get em the mileage that an attack on a major city did with the likes of 9-11. I think they'll try to do much better, being smarter and trying to get much more bang for their slowly diminishing time and money.

Just my opinion of course. but I think they are in a use it or lose it mode as they know its only a matter of time before UBL is captured or they are all caught and hung.

Stay safe .......mind yer knot !

62 posted on 01/02/2004 7:32:14 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
"I wonder what Jesus looked like..."

Probably more like Paul Newman than a middle easterner of today.

63 posted on 01/02/2004 8:04:32 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
As I'm watching this, I have the feeling that something else is going on somewhere else and the media either has agreed to be silent or they don't know sh**.
64 posted on 01/02/2004 8:54:40 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
I'll bet they don't know xxxx!
65 posted on 01/02/2004 9:01:48 PM PST by blam
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To: Squantos
A "Bojinka" op with 10-20 747s getting blown up in midflight in a TOT attack would do the trick. It would shut down our aviation industry, and our economy.
66 posted on 01/02/2004 9:26:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Ya think this BA BS is valid ?.......Pile-its normally don't whine about such crap.
67 posted on 01/02/2004 9:34:20 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: FreedomCalls
You are going to let the oil tankers out aren't you?

You know, that is one minor flaw in the system. Any suggestions?

68 posted on 01/02/2004 9:36:43 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Squantos
Who knows? Maybe it's a cover, maybe it's the union pinko pussies and their hopolophobia?
69 posted on 01/02/2004 9:38:36 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Actually, if the op was carried out in France and involved aircraft taking off over cities, it would cause a world-wide economic depression. Glad the Islamofacists are too stupid and hate-filled to see that though.
70 posted on 01/02/2004 9:47:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Squantos
Did some checking on BA flight 223. It arrives in Dulles at 6:20 p.m. - long after dark. Seems unlikely they would try to pull a 9-11 style hijacking after dark? The capitol bldg is a nicely lit target. Maybe Islamists just going for a fireball over D.C at rush hour?

Obviously the U.S. got some info that they were targeting this particular flight. They just don't know which passengers are the terrorists. Kind of like the end of "Day of the Jackel".

If the article is true, they probably want an armed agent on board because this is the only quick way to take out a terrorist with a bomb. Knife wielders are no problem - even the passengers can take those guys down. Bombs are the Islamist MO. The hijackers on Flight 93 had them and probably blew up that plane when the passengers counter-attacked. We all know about Richard Reid.

Great circle routes from Heathrow to Wash. D.C. go almost directly over Boston and NYC. Not sure if they actually fly this route or come in more to the east, over the Atlantic. Presents several targets for another 9-11 style attack.
71 posted on 01/02/2004 9:53:04 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: MHGinTN
I'm amazed we're all still flying. Our enemies are not too clever, thankfully.
72 posted on 01/02/2004 9:55:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: BigBobber
It may be after dark but I believe there's a pretty full moon. I still remember Usama's last message...something about in the "belly of an eagle".
73 posted on 01/02/2004 9:58:33 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: blam
LOL. Please tell me that this is a joke. If not, you are one of the bigger idiots I've encountered lately. There is absolutely no way that Jesus looked anything like Paul Newman. He looked like a Jewish man from 2000 years ago, which most certainly looked very middle eastern.
74 posted on 01/02/2004 10:45:17 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: expatpat
"Remember, I said Muslim, not Arab. That would have got both Reid and Padilla."

How do you tell that somebody is muslim, particularly if he is trained to blend in?

It would be nearly impossible.
75 posted on 01/03/2004 12:00:01 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Actually, I did. But that was a long time ago.

Notice that I didn't recommend that anyone roast them in hell. My remarks were a prediction, not a recommendation.

Whether Satan is purely symbolic as the embodiment of evil, or whether, as some hold, it is an actual creature, doesn't matter. Those who devote themselves to evil will themselves suffer, and they cannot expect mercy from evil (or Satan).

In other words: "Evil is the ultimate stupidity."

These terrorists, who have devoted their lives to evil--to Satan--are extremely stupid.

76 posted on 01/03/2004 5:42:36 AM PST by Savage Beast ( "Whom WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!" ~Happy2BMe)
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To: Savage Beast
Fair enough.
77 posted on 01/03/2004 5:59:01 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: saquin
BTTT
78 posted on 01/03/2004 6:09:51 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: truth_seeker
See my post #59.
79 posted on 01/03/2004 7:29:06 AM PST by expatpat
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
" He looked like a Jewish man from 2000 years ago, which most certainly looked very middle eastern."

You ought to study history a bit more before you call someone an idiot. I do not appreciate it.

Paul Newmans father was Jewish. My son is a Sephartic Jew and he looks like Tom Cruise (see his home page, he is FReeper 'Charge Carrier'). Not all Jews now or 2,000 years ago look like middle-easterners.

Ancestry Of Europeans Traced To Middle East

Some believe the Northern Tribes were proto-Celtics.

80 posted on 01/03/2004 7:56:59 AM PST by blam
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