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Muslims protest plan to ban hijabs French plan spurs demonstration at S.F. consulate
SFGate.com ^ | 12/31/03 | Cicero A. Estrella

Posted on 12/31/2003 8:23:24 AM PST by TexKat

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A dozen Bay Area Muslims gathered at the French Consulate in San Francisco at noon Tuesday to protest France's proposed ban on religiously mandated head scarves, or hijabs, and other religious symbols in public schools.

The protesters, mostly women wearing hijabs, waited outside the consulate to show their support as a representative of the Northern California chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NCA) presented a letter of opposition to Olivier Arribe, the deputy consul general.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cair; cairnca; france; frenchconsulate; hijab; internationalday; jan16; ofprotest; secularism
Perhaps these San Francisco muslims need to be sent to France permanently.
1 posted on 12/31/2003 8:23:28 AM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Are you sick of muslims, yet? I am.
2 posted on 12/31/2003 8:24:51 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: TexKat
just a though...let them burn down the french consulate and then throw em in jail......he he he
3 posted on 12/31/2003 8:25:22 AM PST by rrrod
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To: TexKat
A dozen

Wow a full dozen? If a dozen FReepers protest anything it never makes the papers.

4 posted on 12/31/2003 8:25:27 AM PST by Drango (Democratic fund raising....If PBS won't do it, who will?)
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To: TexKat
""For me, it's an honor to wear the hijab," said Nadia Aziz, 22. "It's tells people that I'm a Muslim." "

And that tells me that I should keep a sharp eye on you, and my index finger close to my "buddy".

5 posted on 12/31/2003 8:25:47 AM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: TexKat
"For me, it's an honor to wear the hijab," said Nadia Aziz, 22. "It's tells people that I'm a Muslim."

It tells people you belong to a cult that was started by a schizophrenic child molester.

6 posted on 12/31/2003 8:25:51 AM PST by StatesEnemy
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To: Puppage
Perhaps, shoving THIS down their collective throats will shut them up?


7 posted on 12/31/2003 8:28:34 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: TexKat
"I, as a Muslim woman, abide by what my religion asks of me. It is a fulfillment of my religion."

If I understand correctly, that is EXACTLY why the French government is considering banning it.

8 posted on 12/31/2003 8:33:37 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: StatesEnemy
"It's tells people that I'm a Muslim."

And it tells me that she doesn't even understand her own religion. The hajib is NOT mandated by Islam, anywhere in the Koran. All it says is that women are to dress "modestly." In Mohammed's time only his wives wore hajib, specifically to designate them as special as they were married to the "prophet." I can see where a tradition may have evolved where more women came to wear it to make them feel "closer" to special status (just as many muslim families name their sons "mohammed" but to say that it's a mandated tenet of the faith is flat out wrong from what I've read (and that includes writings by many Islamic writers). It's become a political symbol and a brooding and sullen one at that.

9 posted on 12/31/2003 8:34:07 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: Puppage
HEY, they can all shave their heads bald. Then they won't have any hair to 'modestly' cover.
10 posted on 12/31/2003 8:34:16 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: TexKat
>"In Islam, the hijab is a way of life," said Eltoumi.

Is Islam all about beards and head scarves?

11 posted on 12/31/2003 8:39:29 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Puppage
Are you sick of muslims, yet? I am.

DITTO

Here we go again. Excuse me while go vomit.

12 posted on 12/31/2003 8:42:14 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (No tagline here... move along)
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To: TexKat
Muslims in San Francisco protest the French keeping Muslims in France from wearing their headgear?

When there are so many far nastier things going on in San Francisco against the Koran for Muslims to protest.....

Too bad they arent as quick to protest Muslim acts of terror perpetuated against their new host organism country....

13 posted on 12/31/2003 8:43:40 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: TexKat
One of the VERY few times I support the French...

And I too am sick of the special treatment the muslim's are demanding. Hey, you don't like it here??? Go back to your own countries.
14 posted on 12/31/2003 8:45:02 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: TexKat
hahahahaah... so france bans habibs in its schools and you protest the counselt in the United States? Man, seems that these muslims need to spend a bit more time in school..... MOst of america doesn't pay attention to the activist nonsense out in San Fran... French Government sure isn't going to give a hairy rats patoot about what some San Fran muslims think of their policy....

Sheesh.
15 posted on 12/31/2003 8:47:28 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: TexKat
Muslims protest plan to ban hijabs French plan spurs demonstration at S.F. consulate

Why I don't feel too badly about singling out the Muslims for "least desirable
neighbor/immigrant" status...
this is just a mild warning of the day when they'll try to impose Shari'a in
the USA.
They may try it in a small population state (Maine?, with all their recent Muslim
immigrants)...but that's their long-range plan.
Even Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR admits he'd like to see the USA under Shari'a
(but tries to sound reasonable by saying he doesn't realistically think it will happen).

As far as I'm concerned, "moderate" or "silent" Muslims in the USA
fit the bill of "Fifth Column".
16 posted on 12/31/2003 8:48:16 AM PST by VOA
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To: Dialup Llama
"Is Islam all about beards and head scarves?"

That's just the beginning of the fun...eventually they get around to the sheer joy
of killing Christians and Jews wherever they may find them.

So far, thank G-d that the vast majority of Muslims are apostate and either
are ignorant or choose to ignore the non-negotiable commandment of their holy scriptures
to murder lots of their neighbors here in the USA and the West.

For now...
17 posted on 12/31/2003 8:50:26 AM PST by VOA
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To: TexKat
A wonderful idea!
18 posted on 12/31/2003 9:28:52 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: mitchbert
From the UK Daily Telegraph.

Grand Mufti condones French headscarf ban
By Henry Samuel in Paris
(Filed: 31/12/2003)


The head of the biggest university in Islam yesterday backed France's drive to ban the Muslim headscarf in its schools, despite it being condemned by the Arab world.

Sheikh Mohammed Sayyed Tantawi, the Grand Mufti of the al-Azhar mosque in Cairo and the foremost authority in Sunni Islam, said France had the right to pass a law banning all "conspicuous" religious symbols in state schools and institutions.

Wearing the headscarf was "a divine obligation for all Muslim women" that no governing Muslim could deny, he said in a joint press conference with Nicolas Sarkozy, France's interior minister.

But, he added, that obligation only applied "if the woman lives in a Muslim country". He quoted verses from the Koran stipulating that any Muslim who conforms to the laws of a non-Muslim country need not fear divine punishment. Until yesterday the sheikh had remained silent over the issue, describing it as "an internal French affair".

His words will greatly reassure Jacques Chirac, whose recent call for a new law banning headscarves, skullcaps or large crosses, while allowing more discreet symbols of religious identity, received popular support in France but was greeted with anger and dismay throughout the Islamic world.



Perhaps CAIR should be told about this and obey the Grand Muffin, unless of course the USA really is a Muslim country?? (Dons tin hat and retires to await explosion)
19 posted on 12/31/2003 12:47:23 PM PST by 5050 no line
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