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ZOT!!! Low IQs found in trolls.

Posted on 12/30/2003 7:28:49 AM PST by nolongerforsale

Many books and articles have been written by psychologists estimating the IQs of people like Isaac Newton and Louis XIV. These estimates may not be very exact, but a surprising amount can be learned by studying the biography of a person and noting their intellectual development.

Isaac Newton, Leibnitz, and Goethe have all been estimated to have had very high IQs, ranging from 160 to 200. Napoleon and Hitler have been estimated around 130-140. King Frederick the Great and Czar Peter the Great around 150. The kings of Europe as a group would be one of the most intelligent groups of people who ever lived, with about a sixth of them being geniuses.

Plato, in his book THE REPUBLIC, described an ideal society ruled by philospher-kings. The American Republic has been run by men of shockingly low ability. Few of them would even be included among the most intelligent 5% of the population. In terms of integrity and character, American politicians would rate little better than the inmates of prisons.

I came across an interesting study which estimated the IQs of American presidents. It comes from ADVANCES IN PSYCHOLOGY RESEARCH, VOLUME 14, edited by Serge P. Shohov. New York, Nova Science Publishers, Inc., 2002. Chapter 6, "Intelligence and Presidential Greatness: Equation Replication Using Updated IQ Estimates" by Dean Keith Simonton. pages 143-153.

The article claims that the best presidents were usually those with the highest IQs. I would question this is in the case of Abraham Lincoln. He started the bloodiest war in American history. Of all the Western countries which had slavery, all of them except the United States and Haiti were able to abolish it peacefully. This might be a better country today if Lincoln had never been elected. Eisenhower isn't rated as very intelligent, but the country prospered under his rule.

Recently, a man sued in Connecticut for being denied a job as a police officer BECAUSE HIS IQ WAS TOO HIGH at 125.

Only in America can a man be denied a job as a policeman for being too intelligent, while stupidity is no bar to being president.

How can these estimates be so detailed as to include tenths of an IQ point? These are averages from a panel of experts based on many criteria.

Washington............................124.7

J. Adams...............................127.8

Jefferson..............................152.9

Madison................................127.8

Monroe.................................107.6

J.Q. Adams.............................133.8

Jackson................................115.7

Van Buren..............................118.7

W. Harrison............................120.7

Tyler..................................123.7

Polk...................................115.7

Taylor.................................109.6

Fillmore...............................114.7

Pierce.................................118.7

Buchanan...............................113.7

Lincoln................................129.8

A. Johnson.............................109.6

Grant..................................107.6

Hayes..................................120.7

Garfield...............................130.8

Arthur.................................130.8

Cleveland..............................116.7

B. Harrison............................114.7

McKinley...............................115.7

T. Roosevelt...........................130.8

Taft...................................121.7

Wilson.................................134.8

Harding................................101.6

Coolidge...............................106.6

Hoover.................................126.7

F. Roosevelt...........................130.8

Truman.................................123.7

Eisenhower.............................114.7

Kennedy................................139.8

L. Johnson.............................119.7

Nixon..................................125.7

Ford...................................115.7

Carter.................................121.7

Reagan.................................125.7

Bush Sr................................117.4

Clinton................................135.0

Bush Jr................................117.1

The problems of the world today are much too complex to be handled by such mediocrities. It has even been suggested that presidential candidates should be given IQ tests. It wouldn't be unreasonable to require candidates to at least be in the upper 1% of the population. That would be almost 3 million people, of whom over a million would be of the proper age, health, and so on.

One President with a high IQ who achieved his potential was Bill Clinton. Clinton had one of the highest IQs and was a Rhodes scholar, and even his enemies agree he was a very good president.

In my opinion, Thomas Jefferson was the best president of all, as well as the most intelligent. But he was a slaveowner who really didn't know much about politics or history. His ideas on how to run a country were mostly wrong.

He was talented at things like architecture and horticulture, though. He was accomplished in many areas.

Al Gore and William Frist would seem to be two politicians of good character and high intelligence. But even they aren't nearly good enough. And they are the best we have.

Today, the world faces overwhelming problems which could destroy civilization and bring on unimaginable catastrophes. The world today is being run by a chaotic system of bad governments and poor systems run by mediocre people with poor characters. To make things even worse, presidents spend almost all their time raising money, attending ceremonial occasions, and wasting time. Very little time is spent learning about the problems of the world and thinking about solutions.

The "smartest man in America" was on television. His IQ is estimated at over 200. He is a part-time bouncer in a bar. His opinions on politics and history were ignorant and ridiculous.

We need a leader with a very high IQ along with other excellent qualities. No one like that is famous anywhere in the world today or holds any public office. This must change.


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To: nolongerforsale
I came across an interesting study which estimated the IQs of American presidents. It comes from ADVANCES IN PSYCHOLOGY RESEARCH, VOLUME 14, edited by Serge P. Shohov. New York, Nova Science Publishers, Inc., 2002. Chapter 6, "Intelligence and Presidential Greatness: Equation Replication Using Updated IQ Estimates" by Dean Keith Simonton. pages 143-153.

This was already shown to be a complete and utter load of crap. Don't be so gullible.
101 posted on 12/30/2003 8:10:05 AM PST by aruanan
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To: nolongerforsale

"Yes, young troll, your feeble skills are no
match for the power of the right side."

102 posted on 12/30/2003 8:11:40 AM PST by Johnny Gage (How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work in the mornings?)
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To: Mad Dawgg
My word, I had no idea...it's terrible. And why am I thinking of ketchup, suddenly ?
103 posted on 12/30/2003 8:12:22 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum perficio)
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To: TC Rider
Thanks for the info ! Good Lord, I sure hope I will not look like this in a few years...I feel a sudden urge to drink ketchup !
104 posted on 12/30/2003 8:13:48 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum perficio)
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To: Atlantic Friend; Mad Dawgg
OK, now seriesly... Who here avoids Heintz and buys another brand like Hunts?






OK. I do too...
105 posted on 12/30/2003 8:14:33 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: TC Rider
This guy is so smart he should be KING...'cuz he has the king of all resumes'.

He must've wasted most of his time at Davis writing his bonafides. What a self-absorbed, narcissistic clod. I think he has "issues".

106 posted on 12/30/2003 8:15:45 AM PST by muleskinner ("Oh, please")
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To: Atlantic Friend
"My word, I had no idea...it's terrible. And why am I thinking of ketchup, suddenly ?"

Yes it is, I am afriad it is a grave insult to French men everywhere. To me he looks English but what do I know I am just a Dumb 'Ole Ugly American.

107 posted on 12/30/2003 8:17:02 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Mad Dawgg; Atlantic Friend; All

"Bonjour, madame. Ze late husband was rich, was he not? I find you très ooh-la-la!"

108 posted on 12/30/2003 8:17:52 AM PST by dighton
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To: dighton
Is it me, or does he have some kind of pink lipstick on ?
109 posted on 12/30/2003 8:19:24 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum perficio)
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To: RandallFlagg
"Who here avoids Heintz and buys another brand like Hunts?"

Yep, and Not because he looks French, but because he is a Democrat Weasel.

110 posted on 12/30/2003 8:19:28 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Labyrinthos
Exactly. IQ != ability to govern (within reason). I don't doubt for a second that Jimmy Carter scored higher on IQ tests than Ronald Reagan. But Reagan had a million times more common sense, a better set of beliefs, and most importantly, a spine and nads when it came to dealing with the world at large. Just because somebody is "book smart" doesn't mean they can lead and govern. There's much, much more to it than that.

Now, let us cry havoc, and let slip the Kittens of Zot. Livingston...kill.

}:-)4

111 posted on 12/30/2003 8:19:28 AM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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To: nolongerforsale
Presidents don't run this country. The collective wisdom of a bunch of people, all supplying varying levels of influence run this country.
112 posted on 12/30/2003 8:19:41 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Moose4
Is that a Maine coon cat ???
113 posted on 12/30/2003 8:21:58 AM PST by clamper1797 (I want my Constitution back !!!!!!!!!!)
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To: eastsider
The author is living in an alternate universe. About the only thing the Rapist's champions and critics alike agree on is that he didn't come near his potential.

I disagree. I think he fully lived up to his potential. Unfortunately, his potential was to be a sexual harrasser, rapist of women and the Constitution, wannabe Socialist, and a nanny statist.

114 posted on 12/30/2003 8:22:59 AM PST by Still Thinking
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To: Atlantic Friend
Is it me, or does he have some kind of pink lipstick on?

Now that you mention it, hmmmmmm.

115 posted on 12/30/2003 8:24:54 AM PST by dighton
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To: muleskinner
This guy is so smart he should be KING...'cuz he has the king of all resumes'.

Did you check out his 'personal interests'?

Scary stuff

116 posted on 12/30/2003 8:25:02 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: dighton
Maybe Heinz is launching a new brand of cosmetics ?
117 posted on 12/30/2003 8:27:04 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum perficio)
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To: Moose4
You said it better than I did. Regardless, the entire report was debunked as a sham several years ago. BTW, please explain the connection between cats and ZOTS.
118 posted on 12/30/2003 8:28:08 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: TC Rider
He makes "kinetic junk science", as far as I'm concerned...
119 posted on 12/30/2003 8:28:29 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum perficio)
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To: clamper1797
You are correct! That's our purebred Maine Coon kitten, Livingston, on the night we got him. He was four months and a day old when we took that picture. Now he's five months old today, and yes, he's gotten bigger, which is something Maine Coons are good at. :)

He's a wonderful cat, our very own Viking Kitten. Weird, but wonderful. Always likes to be around either me or my wife, playful, athletic, makes the cutest noises, and he's even starting to get a little affectionate at times. Now if I can just break him of his addiction to climbing on computer keyboards before he gets heavy enough to damage them...

}:-)4
120 posted on 12/30/2003 8:29:59 AM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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