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To: Amelia
the weigh stations were all closed.


Curious..... I've seen you mention that on other threads.... Just what does a wieght station do that really would catch a terrorist? Thought they basically weight the truck axles for weight distribution and total load. Do they check manifest, logs, IDs, etc? I would think that they could be driven around by taking alternate routes....
450 posted on 12/29/2003 2:33:13 PM PST by deport ( Some folks wear their halos much too tight...)
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To: deport
There are weigh stations on some of the alternate routes as well, although they could be bypassed by someone determined enough to do so.

I'm not sure exactly what they check, but it seems to me if the authorities really thought trucks could be part of the terrorist threat, checking them might be a good idea. They might be able to tell if something seemed "off".
459 posted on 12/29/2003 2:48:28 PM PST by Amelia (A good tagline requires lots of imagination. Darn it.)
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To: deport; glock rocks
Do they check manifest, logs, IDs, etc?

I think they check the logs and hours on the road also

Glock .. Do you know exactly what they do at the wieght stations?

465 posted on 12/29/2003 3:06:44 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: deport
Just what does a wieght station do that really would catch a terrorist? Thought they basically weight the truck axles for weight distribution and total load.

You've got it exactly right. Weigh stations would do nothing to catch terrorists, unless the terrorists were stupid enough to overload their trailer. In fact, many shippers attach a seal to the trailer's latch in order to prevent entry. US Customs can break the seal, but I don't believe domestic law enforcement can do so absent reasonable cause (I could be wrong on that, though).

470 posted on 12/29/2003 3:36:52 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: deport; Amelia
Perhaps she thinks it sounds really smart ,and "up on" homeland security to say those kinds of things. Perhaps there is some new Patriot act law that forces these weight stations to check logs, and determine if truckers are terrorists?

Either way , it seems unlikely to me that truck weigh stations do more than weight trucks for the purpose of charging taxes...

From how things work:

Most states collect taxes based on the weight of transported goods. Truck weigh stations are used for these tax purposes as well as to monitor the weight of a truck to ensure that it falls within the safety guidelines that each state has in place for its road system.

While the maximum allowed weight varies, a common standard is 34,000 pounds (15,400 kilograms). Weight is usually calculated in two measurements:

Axle weight - the amount of weight carried by each axle Gross weight - the combined weight of all the axles Truck scales are built to handle an enormous amount of abuse. For example, Weigh-Tronix provides a truck scale that they warranty to weigh trucks with a gross weight of 80,000 lbs (36,000 kg) each at a rate of 200 per day, 365 days a year for 25 years! Truck scales are built out of steel, concrete or, in most cases, a combination of both. The technology used in the scales themselves varies. Let's take a look at some of the more common forms. Load-cell systems are the most popular technology used. Each cell is comprised of a durable material such as steel or concrete with one or more strain gauges attached to or embedded in it. A strain gauge consists of a wire (or wires) that transmits a mild electric current. As the cell is subjected to weight, the wire in the strain gauge is altered or compressed slightly. The change in the wire results in a difference in the resistance to the current passing through it. The signal from each cell is sent to a junction box, where sensors measure the variance in the current and calculate the amount of weight the scale is supporting.

The strain gauges in load cells can be either compression or tension based. A compression strain gauge is based on how much the cell compresses when pressure is applied, while a tension strain gauge is based on the slight change in shape of the cell caused by the weight.

A bending-plate system uses metal plates with strain gauges attached to them. As weight is applied to the scale, the plates are subjected to stress. The strain gauge on each plate measures the amount of stress and calculates the load required to cause it. The amounts from each gauge are added together to get the total for that axle.

Piezoelectric systems use a series of piezoelectric sensors. The sensors are embedded in a conducting material. When weight is applied, the pressure changes the voltage of the electrical charge flowing through the conductor. The sensors measure the change in voltage and calculate the load. The amounts from each sensor are added together.

One-stop axle weighing uses several scales that work together to determine the axle weight plus the gross weight.

In addition to the different scales used, there are at least three methods of getting the weight of a truck:

One-axle - The most cumbersome method, a truck gradually drives across a single scale, stopping each time a set of wheels is on the scale. Once all the axles have been weighed, the total is added together. One-stop - A series of scales are used so that the entire truck can be weighed at once. The scales are typically connected to a single electronic controller that automatically combines the axle weights to get the gross weight.

Weigh-in-motion (WIM) - A method that is gaining momentum, WIM uses a series of embedded sensors to calculate the weight per axle as a truck drives over the sensor pad. Unlike the other two methods, there is no need for the truck to come to a complete stop while on the scales. In fact, some WIM systems are installed in highways so that all traffic is monitored at speed.

544 posted on 12/29/2003 5:50:29 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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