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How FDR's New Deal Harmed Millions of Poor People
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Posted on 12/29/2003 9:55:56 AM PST by Stew Padasso

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1 posted on 12/29/2003 9:55:56 AM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Stew Padasso; 4ConservativeJustices
ping!
2 posted on 12/29/2003 10:03:33 AM PST by Ff--150 (What is Is)
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To: Stew Padasso
Great post, thanks. I would also point out FDR's constant meddling in the stock market, which undoubtedly made investors very nervous, not knowing what he was going to pull out of his hat next.
3 posted on 12/29/2003 10:03:39 AM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: Stew Padasso
Thanks for posting this.
4 posted on 12/29/2003 10:08:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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To: Liz
Conrad Black must be doubly depressed with this coming out re his adored and loved FDR.
5 posted on 12/29/2003 10:10:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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To: Stew Padasso
Boy! This would infuriate my yellow-dog democrat elder relatives...they are convinced FDR could walk on water.
6 posted on 12/29/2003 10:17:59 AM PST by Maria S ("…the end is near…this time, Americans are serious; Bush is not like Clinton." Uday Hussein 4/9/03)
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To: Stew Padasso
New Deal taxes were major job destroyers during the 1930s, prolonging unemployment that averaged 17%. Higher business taxes meant that employers had less money for growth and jobs. Social Security excise taxes on payrolls made it more expensive for employers to hire people, which discouraged hiring.

Thanks for the post. I am often needing ammo to shoot at the Rat FDR worhsippers.

7 posted on 12/29/2003 10:21:52 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Maria S
Ha! I can top that. Some people I know are convinced that FDR could urinate lemonade, would drink it if offered, and then deny that it wasn't lemonade!
8 posted on 12/29/2003 10:25:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Stew Padasso
Democratic presidential candidates as well as some conservative intellectuals, are suggesting that Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal is a good model for government policy today.

The erroneous notion that the New Deal was good for America has become an urban legend. It will take a hundred years before enough study and facts emerge to even begin to dispel the myth of the New Deal and give it its rightful description of a "Raw Deal". Much of it perpetrated on Americans by the communists/socialists in FDR's administration.

9 posted on 12/29/2003 10:26:05 AM PST by elbucko
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well said.
10 posted on 12/29/2003 10:27:41 AM PST by elbucko
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To: robertpaulsen
ping.
11 posted on 12/29/2003 11:11:37 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Stew Padasso
This is a classic case of the seen versus the unseen -- we can see the jobs created by New Deal spending, but we cannot see jobs destroyed by New Deal taxing.

I just love reading and saving articles like this. You cannot tax the people into prosperity. Our elected officials refuse to acknowledge this fact. Billy Clintoon is 100% disingenuous when he says his tax increase helped the soaring economy when he was in office. It's disgusting to note, that with all those taxes coming in during those 8 years, the skunk gutted the military at the same time and did it with a smile.

12 posted on 12/29/2003 11:35:22 AM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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I was looking for this book for 20 years. The first 8 years of his administration unemployment never dropped below 14%. This was not a "natural" part of the business cycle, but solely the result of insane policies developed by fdr. The book is a wonderful compilation of those policies. Why libs admire him is beyond my conprehension.
13 posted on 12/29/2003 11:48:59 AM PST by genghis
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To: Stew Padasso
FDR's policies weren't much different from Musslolini's. FDR was a fascist, i.e. centralized government control of private enterprise. My favorite anecdote is about a chicken farmer who went to jail for picking out the best chickens from several different coops to sell to his customers. This violated one of those famous fascist Acts of FDR's.
14 posted on 12/29/2003 11:56:02 AM PST by seowulf
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To: Stew Padasso
This is a classic case of the seen versus the unseen -- we can see the jobs created by New Deal spending, but we cannot see jobs destroyed by New Deal taxing.

Exactly.....the unseen consequences described very well by Hazlitt. He uses the example of the broken window where people will say that it will stimulate business because a glassmaker will have some work to do. What you don't see is the business suit, food, or other items the window owner will now NOT BUY in order to pay for the window repair.

There is no increase in business....the money just got spent in different way.

15 posted on 12/29/2003 12:04:28 PM PST by Lizavetta (Savage is right. Extreme liberalness is a mental disorder.)
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To: elbucko
Ahh, the "Raw Deal"...as many people called it. There's also a great research paper done by the Reserve Bank of Minnesota, that comes to the same conclusion; that FDR's New Deal postponed the recovery...and actually extended the misery.

What's amazing about the New Deal is how many progressives give credit to FDR for his foresight in creating this huge central government, when in reallity, FDR was doing nothing more than copying what was already going on in socialist Europe at that time. FDR's administration (Brain Trust) was filled with utopian social-ites, such as his chief economic advisor (Rexford Tugwell) who openly praised communism for being "able to produce goods in greater quantities than capitalism, so as to spread such prosperity as there is over wider areas of the population." When liberals talk about the "tripling" of the deficit under Reagan, they should immediately be reminded of FDR's administration, whose New Deals created far more debt. When FDR entered the WH, the deficit was around $2.2 billion (1933); within 10 years that deficit would increase to $57.4 billion. While WWII can take some responsibility for these numbers, this deficit was substantial even before the war began.

The fact is, FDR's New Deals did nothing more than control and restrict the competitive sector while the government practically subsidized the entire labor force through "work programs" and HUGE marginal tax rates. Such a threat to free enterprise where these programs that even reknowned Democrats of the day objected to them. William Green, President of the AFL, declared that FDR's Civilian Corps "smacks of Facsism, of Hitlerism, of a form of Sovietism." Grace Abbott to the DNC Labor leader, John L. Lewis told the NAACP in 1940 that, "Mr. Roosevelt made depression and unemployment a chronic fact in American life." Even Gottfried Harberler, Professor of Economics at Harvard and President of the American Economic Association called the failure of the New Deal a policy disaster "unparalleled in other countries."

It was Churchill who summed it up nicley in 1937 when he said, "the Washington administration has waged so ruthless a war on private enterprise that the US is actually leading the world back into the trough of depression." And Churchill was right as by 1938 the country was experiencing a recession within a depression with unemployment climbing back up to 20%. If FDR's New Deal was responsible for ending the Depression, it sure wasn't working...and even by the end of the decade, with the war ecomomy reving up, unemployment was still as high as 17.2%. Compare any of the economic indicators from when FDR first took office to the end of the decade and you will see that the New Deal not only didn't help the economy, it stalled it, creating the longest depression in this country's history.
16 posted on 12/29/2003 12:14:01 PM PST by cwb (ç†)
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To: cwboelter
Interesting synopsis. However, didn't Churchill go along with socialistic programs in England after WWII? Social security comes to mind.

I may be wrong...seems to me I heard it somewhere?

17 posted on 12/29/2003 12:30:08 PM PST by what's up
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To: Stew Padasso
Commerce Clause bump.
18 posted on 12/29/2003 12:39:52 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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I'm not too familiar with what Churchill did in England after the war with regards to SS. I think his opposition at this time was with what FDR was doing with the NRA, AAA and the every other alphabet program that was intent on controlling productivity and wages. They had been fighting this depression for years now, and FDR just continued to go in the same direction...even while at odds with the USSC. By the time Churchill made this comment, this new recession was just starting (Spring 1937) and in full swing by October.
19 posted on 12/29/2003 12:54:28 PM PST by cwb (ç†)
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To: Stew Padasso
It is an excellent book that I'd recommend to anyone. Unfortunately, those who need to read it won't. One thing the author does not cover, is what kicked off the recession that led to the Great Depression, because it happened under Hoover's watch. They raised the top income tax bracket from 25% to 65% in one fell swoop. You won't learn any of this in gradeschool folks... college either for that matter.
20 posted on 12/29/2003 1:00:50 PM PST by kylaka
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