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To: thesummerwind
...Phoenix Program in Vietnam where American counter-insurgency actions claimed the lives of tens of thousands of Vietnamese believed to be working with the Viet Cong.

And there is a problem with this...how?

Bleeding heart damned liberals can't grasp the concept of unconventional warfare.

Once you bring the battle to the bastards in their own language, you've won half of it.

These "insurgents" are too well educated by our own citizens: the DU types, the Batcrap followers, the Garafalos, the Scott Ritters, the Barbra Streisands, all the stinking traitorous pieces of human excrement, that stand and make the treasonous statements they make, all serve to embolden these "insurgents", because they truly believe that all Americans are cast from the same chickenshit mold..

Until we start ignoring the politically correct bullshit and start taking them out in the most unconventional ways tactically possible, we will not win their hearts and minds.

I am appalled at the weakness of some of our tactical leaders, in their refusal to fight dirty.

What the hell is a clean fight, anyway?

The aim is to kill the enemy. I don't care what you call it, call it revenge if you want, but for every US soldier that falls in that stinking country, ten of the so-called "insurgent" guerillas should fall.

And we have the capability to make it so. I know it and I know damn well that there are a lot of former NCO's on this forum that know it.

We'll never change the Arabs view of us, even those that have the true desire to ally with us.

Knowing that, realizing that, just why would we care what the results of our unconventional conduct of war would be, anyway, as long as it results in the stabilization of the region?

The US soldier is not a statesman, nor should he be.

The US soldier is a killer of men and he should be allowed to do just that, in whatever way it can be accomplished.

This namby-pamby crap sickens me. It comes up after every stinking conflict the US is involved in.

Were our widdle soldier-woldiers good widdle boys? Did they play all nicey-nice?

Hummmph!

38 posted on 12/28/2003 5:56:44 AM PST by OldSmaj
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To: OldSmaj
Re: # 30 ... well said.
39 posted on 12/28/2003 6:20:18 AM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: OldSmaj
I am appalled at the weakness of some of our tactical leaders, in their refusal to fight dirty.

I am appalled at the weakness of many of the American people. They are so easily influenced by the CNN's, ABC's, NBC's, and SeeBS's of the media. It sucks.

54 posted on 12/28/2003 8:27:28 AM PST by thesummerwind (Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes)
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To: OldSmaj
Bqathist Iraq was a near perfect fascist governent, aka criminally corrupt socialist: up to 90% of its population were and still are fed with ration card monthly supplies of staples such as cooking oil, flour, etc. For 35 years, Iraqis have been made to be helpless and totally dependent on government, like France is becoming.

Most basic industry was State owned or owned by Sddamn's family or tribe. It still is and will remain so.

There are millions of Sunni who know that their only prayer to live is to win dominance by force of arms. Those arms are all over the place in bunkers and homes AND spider holes. Some are killing and maiming our boys.

Our offensive lull has certainly been for training SF and SF Lite to take out the trash. 'We can't handle the truth.'? Our efforts need to get effective which translates into industrial strength liquidations, worldwide.

Given that islam is a death cult (just read their koran and haddith - their battle plan), we must walk softly, but carry the biggest sticks and let their survivors know that we have the will to use them. THER PROBLEM is if we're nuked or poxed. Who do we vaporize? The Dem-5th Column, if winning control again, would open our nation up to attacks and police state martial law. Imagine Mt. Carmel-Waco 1993 with the Patriot Act's hammer and the SCOTUS attempt the void our Ratified Constitution.

We'll have to fight this perpetual war. The majority of Americans will be "free riders" and a minority ranting that we are murderers unwilling to to have internationized trials for the accused. Our 5th Column says we shouldn't be engaged in war. They'll perish along side our loved ones if we do not take care of business, everyday.

Thank God Almighty that we have warriors with the will to protect our Constitutional Republic against enemies foreign and domestic. This Terror War is everywhere that islamists are able to live. We must see that they can't live, however it is accomplished and listen to our 5th Column whine.

Our children's children future shall only be secured by force of arms and Grace.
66 posted on 12/28/2003 9:12:46 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: OldSmaj
I'll BUMP that! Great rant, well said

Jammer
68 posted on 12/28/2003 9:39:55 AM PST by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: OldSmaj
Thank you, Sergeant-Major, for taking all my points.

But then, I'm just a National Guardsman who's been active since 12 SEP 01, and according to FReeper's, whaddahell do I know about the Army?

73 posted on 12/28/2003 11:01:24 AM PST by Old Sarge (Operation Noble Eagle - What are YOU doing to serve ME?)
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To: OldSmaj
Had to be said. And you said it damned well, thanks! :-)
74 posted on 12/28/2003 11:08:34 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: OldSmaj
I am appalled at the weakness of some of our tactical leaders, in their refusal to fight dirty.

I assumed we've been fighting "dirty" but not advertising it. Isn't that the way it's done? Not sure I'd call it dirty, though. I'd refer to it as professionally tactical.

75 posted on 12/28/2003 11:10:24 AM PST by hotpotato
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To: OldSmaj
These "insurgents" are too well educated by our own citizens: the DU types, the Batcrap followers, the Garafalos, the Scott Ritters, the Barbra Streisands, all the stinking traitorous pieces of human excrement, that stand and make the treasonous statements they make, all serve to embolden these "insurgents", because they truly believe that all Americans are cast from the same chickenshit mold..

Holy Cow! I've never heard it put better....

82 posted on 12/28/2003 5:03:50 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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