The Nanny State Strikes Again

Fox News ^ | 12/26/03 | William A. Niskanen

[cajun-jack]

well these little shaved head punks just twist my shorts...I log approx 10K miles a month and have been for almost 30 years and some kid that isn't even that old comes at me with such a superior attitude like he is the see all, know all and be all...gonna save me from myself.

I told one of them once he needed to get a real job and that if his wife saw just one of my check stubs, she would bitch slap him and kick his broke ass out of her house.

[inquest]

Here's a concept: How about letting each state answer that question for itself?

You did say you were in favor of states' rights, didn't you?

[nopardons]

Oh, so it's okay, for YOU to impugn me, with childish banalities, instead of anything rational and valid, but a truism, made by me, is just " a few clever phrases " ? LOL

Ageism now ? LOL

Do I think that there should be a higher age limit, for first time voters ? Yes, actually I do; just not quite where you assume I do.Frankly, I think that it should go back to 21, where it used to be. And even at that, few, of that age ( and those of 18 and up to 21 ) bother to vote. But, rather than a higher age limit, I would prefer the passing of a simple test, before anyone, at any age, would be allowed to vote. That test would be simple, test one's knowledge about how our government works and the like.

And it IS a " BIG whoop ",for someone, anyone, who REALLY does know and understand politics, to tell someone, who doesn't, that they're still wet behind the ears,doesn't have nearly enough knowledge about what he/she imagines he/she does, and that you don't understand that, proves my point; in spades.

When you want to see " mediocrity ", go look in the nearest mirror.

Some look at a glass and see it 1/2 full, some look at it and see it 1/2 empty, then, there Arie those, who never see any glass at all. You, kid, fall into the last category.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Answer this simple question:

Do States have the right to regulate transportation or not?

Are they constitutionally able to license operators, and establish regulatory standards for vehicles and drivers or not?

[MEG33]

Good Grief!

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Here's a concept: How about letting each state answer that question for itself?"

Show me anywhere on this article where it says otherwise.

[FLAMING DEATH]

They don't need to thank me. They need to thank Bush. The voters' approval is his direct responsibility. He hasn't represented a lot of the people who voted for him.

You see, I have no loyalty to the Republican party or the President. I'm loyal only to my principles. I won't sacrifice them because Bush is almost, but not quite, as bad as the other guy. That's the way it is.

If he were a conservative, I'd vote for him. He's not, so too bad. I guess he shouldn't have sold me out.

[inquest]

So you still haven't figured out just where this "incentive" money comes from?

[Torie]

I detect a knockout blow on this thread. Not that those knocked senseless won't keep posting. After all, this is FR. Dealing intelligently with economic externalities is simply not de rigour on this site.

By the way, I recently learned that the number of words in the English language is approaching a million.

[biffalobull]

You are flying in the face of all evidence and not informed. Ask any EMT driver. Ask any doctor, nurse, etc.

Do you know if all the children riding school buses, everyday, over sometimes tough roads are wearing seat belts?.If not, why not.

Do people wear them in cabs, street cars, buses, subway trains, rapid transit, if not, why not.

Or is a selective law>?

[garv]

If you were required to wear a safety helmet how much would that save? If people ate healthier how much would that save? If people didn't live so long how much would that save?

I have little or no doubt that we could dream up all kinds of ways to reduce death, injury, and lost productivity resulting in savings of countless billions.

All it would cost is some personal freedom. But before we go that route, I can think of a whole bunch of other ways to save countless billions and I already know where I can find the first $400 million.

[MEG33]

Using our money to try to save us more than we are offering to the states isn't a bad investment of our money.

[Orangedog]

And I'm sure that the insurance industry will cut all of our health and auto premiums once this primary seatbelt law is passed nationwide, right? Just like they have all decided to cut rates in the states where it already is a primary law...[/sarcasm]

This law will not save anyone a penny. What it WILL do is fatten the coffers of police departments with all the new fines they collect.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Listen, I'm in no mood tio suffer fools tonight, so if you're going to be a jackass, go elsewhere.

Now, answer the damned question...

Show me how the Feds have usurped the State's right to regulate transportation by urging the enactment, and incentivizing of this potentially money (and life) saving legislation.

[Congressman Billybob]

I thoroughly agree with you that the federal government is extracting and spending far more money than is justtified from the "grateful" taxpayers. I was just explaining the legal mechanism by which Congress can effect changes in state motor vehicle laws which, on their face, are no busines of Congress.

On the subject of taxes, several of the Framers wrote that they would expect a new revolution against the government if taxation ever reached 10%. Of course it stands at about 43% today (local, state and federal) and a new revolution has not happened.

Congressman Billybob

Click here to stick a thumb in the eye of CFR, "Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob."

[nopardons]

No, I don't ... it's a red flag, which I recognized all too well. LOL

There was NO ,none,nada,zilch,bupkiss spending reductions, when Reagan got his tax cuts put through either and some of President's Bush's ARE permanent; the rest of them may become so, in his second term. Without his re-election, they'll ALL be rescinded, with MORE taxes heaped on top.

The president, not ANY president, can do away with legal abortions of every stripe. This was a start.

You wouldn't know reality, if it bit you on the nose and hung on. And as far as President Bush not having done much...you're in denial.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"This law will not save anyone a penny." -- Orangedog

• Safety belt usage saves society an estimated $50 billion annually in medical care, lost productivity, and other injury-related costs.¹⁵
• Conversely, safety belt nonuse results in significant economic costs to society. The needless deaths and injuries from safety belt nonuse account for an estimated $26 billion in economic costs to society annually.¹⁶ The cost goes beyond the lost lives of unbuckled drivers and passengers: We all pay - in higher taxes and higher health care and insurance costs.

None so blind as he who will not see.

[nunya bidness]

Do States have the right to regulate transportation or not?

Define "transportation".

Are they constitutionally able to license operators, and establish regulatory standards for vehicles and drivers or not?

What does "constitutionally able" mean? You're mixing jurisdictions. Rights are inviolate as protected by the Constitution. Delegated authority is limited by the people through their representatives in the state legislature and through the federal legislature.

Is this a case of a state law or a federal law?

A simple way of understanding it is this: my rights have to pass through two forms of legislature for injunction, the executive for enforcement, and the judiciary for substantiation.

[Yeti]

Do States have the right to regulate transportation or not?

Not every issue is a Federal vs States issue. Your question applies only to whether or not the federal government has the "right" to stop this, not whether it is good for this to happen.

 

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[inquest]

Well, you're starting to get a little testy, but that's OK, that keeps things interesting. Anyway, I thought I had already made the point pretty well, but since it's not getting through, I'll cut you a break and put it in terms that even you can understand.

If I were to take your money from you, and say that you can only have it back when you do things the way I want you to - all while calling it an "incentive" - I suppose you'd consider that an imposition onto your life.

The federal government is doing the same thing to the states. It has no money that it can legitimately call its own personal property. All the money it has it has taken by force. So it's speaking in highly dishonest language to call it a mere "incentive" when it says to those whom it's taken money from that they can only have it back when they've made certain changes to their behavior. It is absolutely no different from directly requiring such changes through the force of law.