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Ground Zero: If They Build, They Won't Come (Wonder Land)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, December 26, 2003 | DANIEL HENNINGER

Posted on 12/26/2003 7:33:03 AM PST by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:50:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: solitas
Totally in keeping with the shallow society involved in commemorating the event. Gettysburg is space set-aside for remembrance, as is the site of the Arizona. You canNOT have a memorial 'integrated' with a workspace. The day-to-day workspace will easily overwhelm the memorial.

Manhattan is a tiny island. There are plenty of commercial spots on Manhattan where traic/historical events occured.

21 posted on 12/26/2003 8:44:19 AM PST by presidio9 ("By extending the reach of trade, we foster prosperity and the habits of liberty." -Adam Smith)
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To: presidio9
They should rebuild the towers exactly like they were, maybe even hire. That would show them. They will not and that a pity.
22 posted on 12/26/2003 8:44:37 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: presidio9
"everybody I know loved the towers."

You really should get out more.
23 posted on 12/26/2003 8:47:45 AM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: John Beresford Tipton
You really should get out more.

I get out plenty. The towers were very cool looking. The block the block that I used to live on pointed downtown, and they framed it perfectly. The lighting during sunset at Moran's gave them a surreal look. Going to work I had to fight my way through crowds of tourists taking pictures in front of them. The idea that people did not like the towers is a media construct.

BTW, where do you live?

24 posted on 12/26/2003 8:54:51 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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To: presidio9
NYC
25 posted on 12/26/2003 8:56:37 AM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: presidio9
There's a difference though.  That memorial is in the graveyard and behind bars.  I prefer memorials that are directly in the paths of commuters exiting the WTC site.

Lots of people ply Boulevard East in Weehawken for the views of Manhattan and come across the "death rock" that Alexander Hamilton leaned on after being shot by Burr.  It's probably more visited that the gravesite.

 

Alexander Hamilton bust.

From: http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/NJWEEhamilton.html

26 posted on 12/26/2003 8:58:04 AM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: presidio9
This is no myth - most nyers considered the WTC a dull eyesore. I certainly did.
27 posted on 12/26/2003 9:03:28 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: presidio9
I've stopped many times at Hamilton's grave, but of course he is my fave founding father!
28 posted on 12/26/2003 9:06:34 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: boris
I completely agree and have felt that way since shortly after 9-11. Anything built there is the single biggest target in nyc, so why make a new skyscraper that is as vulnerable as the first?

All the issues you raise are correct. Insurance will be insane - passed on the the consumer or taxpayer, of course.

Also, how do you secure the contrsuction site? The bad guys will simply not let anything like that be built on the site - time is on their side, not ours.
29 posted on 12/26/2003 9:09:32 AM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: peteram
I had never before been to the WTC, or even to NYC, but have traveled to Ground Zero twice since 9/11/01. All I felt was a great sense of emptiness, since I wasn't there until recovery operations were completed. I'm sure it is even a more profound feeling if you've spent time in the area before...
30 posted on 12/26/2003 9:11:27 AM PST by spookycc (Never forgive! Never forget!)
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To: presidio9
The Civil War has hallowed ground, as at Gettysburg. World War II has Pearl Harbor and the Arizona memorial.

Quite frankly, the Twin Towers site can not remotely be compared to either Pearl Harbor OR the Arizona. Those were battleground sites.

And according to some, should the Pentagon also be turned into nothing but a Memorial Park as well??

31 posted on 12/26/2003 9:13:16 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: John Beresford Tipton
NYC

I find that very hard to believe. NYers LOVED the Towers. Loved them. Especially after 1993. Maybe it is you who needs to get out more.

32 posted on 12/26/2003 9:13:32 AM PST by presidio9 (a new birth of Freedom)
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To: boris; presidio9
Let me say it again, very slowly: Next time they'll use a nuclear satchel charge in the back of a taxicab.

No they won't.

33 posted on 12/26/2003 9:19:32 AM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: KellyAdmirer
KellyAdmirer writes: New York City should remain a commercial center. Keeping the site barren would just hasten the gradual movement to turn it into a massive theme park. Better to return the entire site to productivity, leaving the site barren won't bring those poor souls back.

Let's paraphrase that a little:

Gettysburg should remain a farming center. Keeping the site barren would just hasten the gradual movement to turn it into a massive theme park. Better to return the entire site to productivity, leaving the site barren won't bring those poor souls back.

Cheers!
- John

34 posted on 12/26/2003 9:21:47 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: presidio9
I'm a native New Yorker and I detested the WTC towers.
35 posted on 12/26/2003 9:22:45 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: presidio9
I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with the others Presidio9.

New Jersey people (like me) loved the World Trade Center, not New Yorkers.

The fact that the Port Authority, the bi-state agency, owned them and that the easiest way to commute to the WTC was from New Jersey and that you didn't have to go outside once you got there all made the complex very appealing to NJ people.  Also the best views of the WTC were from NJ.

The twin towers were our piece of New Jersey in New York. 

36 posted on 12/26/2003 9:23:13 AM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: boris
"Next time they'll use a nuclear satchel charge in the back of a taxicab."

A nuclear satchel charge?


37 posted on 12/26/2003 9:23:42 AM PST by Damagro
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To: sarcasm
I'm a native New Yorker and I detested the WTC towers.

What did you detest about them?

38 posted on 12/26/2003 9:25:15 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: presidio9
They destroyed that area of downtown with a sterile plaza which was disconnected from the rest of the area. Do you remember the area before the WTC was built?
39 posted on 12/26/2003 9:31:16 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Do you remember the area before the WTC was built?

Not really, I was born in 1970. Maybe your generation hated them. Mine did not.

40 posted on 12/26/2003 9:34:18 AM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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