POLL: Would you support a temporary work visa for illegal aliens?

Lou Dobbs ^ | 12/25/03

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Would you support a temporary work visa for illegal aliens?

[vto]

I wonder if Dobbs could do a geographical breakdown?

[Bob]

We need people to come here and be a part of America...and be willing to work, assimilate into the American culture, understand and defend freedom, etc., etc.

Yes, but we can also use the services of a controlled number of people to work here for a specific time period and return to their country of origin when that work ends.

The only guest-worker program that I'd support would have to include, at a minimum: application made from outside the U.S., a fixed time period (less than a year), and a required return to the worker's home country. Anything less is just an amnesty by another name.

[TalBlack]

No! Any one who has broken our law should be sent home and banned for life.

THEN any who wish to apply LEGALLY may be given a visa.

This probably makes me some kind of racist radical.

[mercy]

I didn't say just let them flood in here. But doing nothing is tatamount to condoning the worst sort of victimization of these ... Human Beings.

Military on the border and all that is pie in the sky BS. Not feasible. Not going to happen.

But nobody wants to admit that every single one of us benifits from their labor. Every day and most every way.

Our birth-rate is not high enough to provide adequate labor even IF American kids by and large wanted to work. We are quite spoiled as a society and we just don't like getting our hands dirty any more. I know I know .... not all of us. But a majority. We're paper pushers and desk jokies these days.

Somebody has to do the grunt work. Create a system. Let them in. Tax them.

[mercy]

er .... joCkies ..... although jokies is not all that far off

[Henchman]

Would you support a temporary work visa for illegal aliens?

Yes 31% 706 votes

No 69% 1606 votes
Total: 2312 votes

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

The only sane statement on this thread. The only criticism being: they should be whipped as they are herded to the border.

[Henchman]

Sorry, but your statement is, in my opinion liberal propaganda - your statement posted below. Legal Immigrants have to meet certain criteria, such as swearing off welfare for five years. Kissing ass of the illegals discriminates against legal aliens who can do the work - why not increase their quotas IF we need the labor? The number of illegals has increased in this country even in the face of the unemployment that is just now beginning to reverse itself in a previously poor economy... and the influx of 30 million immigrants, illegal or not has fueled wht you see as demand for labor - someone has to support them and they increase their own demand. Perhaps throw the illegals out, close the doors for awhile, assimialate those legals that are here and see what the truth is.
Your statement: Our birth-rate is not high enough to provide adequate labor even IF American kids by and large wanted to work. We are quite spoiled as a society and we just don't like getting our hands dirty any more. I know I know .... not all of us. But a majority. We're paper pushers and desk jokies these days.

[Volunteer]

No, no, NO!!! I truly think that the INS just sucks. They have no interest in keeping our boarders safe. Instead, the spend our tax $$ giving grief to folks who followed the rules and used legal means to come to our country.

[Pa' fuera]

Those who just hate illegals are irrational. We cannot function without them. If you think otherwise you are just completely uninformed. Go to the factories and jobsites and take a good long look. Step back in the kitchen of nearly every restaurant. Look at your gardener.

legalizing them is not the answer. It is a reward and an incentive to lawbreakers. If they insist on a reward for their hard labor - well, that's what wages are for. If they feel undercompensated or discriminated against, they can go back to Mexico and try their luck there.

A guest worker program would only create a demand for new illegals, since the guest workers would command a higher wage and greater protections and benefits. What it boils down to is that a "true" illegal would be more marketable than a worker who signs up for and who is under the restrictions of the guest worker program.

[HardStarboard]

I support temporary jail for illegal aliens prior to swift and sure deportation to country of origin.

[Pa' fuera]

But doing nothing is tatamount to condoning the worst sort of victimization of these ... Human Beings.

are you serious? Their treatment here in the US is worse than the treatment they receive in Mexico? They are victims because we provide them opportunities to work so that they and their families don't starve to death? Educating their children for free and footing the bill for their medical care, food stamps, adult education, ad nauseum, is abuse? I don't agree with you, and neither do the illegal aliens. When facing deportation, they scratch and claw to stay in this country as though their life depended on it. This is the worst sort of victimization??? You're nuts.

[EGPWS]

I don't know how much more simply we can state that.

In the mind of a liberal, simplicity leads to black and white common sense thinking.

We couldn't have that now could we?

Without a "gray area" how can one who lacks common sense, debate such issues and have an iota of a chance to win the debate?

[glockmeister40]

... We cannot function without them. If you think otherwise you are just completely uninformed. Go to the factories and jobsites and take a good long look. Step back in the kitchen of nearly every restaurant. Look at your gardener.

Your statement is completely full of crap. We could function very well without them. Take a GOOD LONG LOOK at your income tax and property tax. How much money do we spend subsidizing them? How many illegal aliens are in prison? How much drug trafficking do they do? I look at the police reports daily in my local newspaper - every day the arrest reports list mexican names. I live over 1200 miles from the mexican border.

We can find US citizens who will garden, cook and housekeep. OUR citizens are part of our country. Illegal aliens are not. They have no intention of ever being part of us. Right after 9/11, hundreds of thousands of them high-tailed it back across the border.

I don't hate them. They are putting an enormous strain on our social system. I can cook, garden and housekeep for myself. I'll afford more expensive vegtables and fruit. Our social support system is for citizens only.

[EGPWS]

They have no intention of ever being part of us.

Excellent point, for if they had the intention, wouldn't they be "legal aliens" in the first place?

[usadave]

Those who just hate illegals are irrational. We cannot function without them. If you think otherwise you are just completely uninformed.

Sorry, but I've always hated lawbreakers, both the home-grown kind and the foreign kind. And yes we can function without "them". To believe that we can't is to be completely ignorant.

[usadave]

This probably makes me some kind of racist radical.

That's ok. Most of the pro-illegal immigration Latino activists are racist radicals.

[EGPWS]

I didn't say just let them flood in here. But doing nothing is tatamount to condoning the worst sort of victimization??? of these ... Human Beings.

How can one be victimized because of one's own actions?

[JimRed]

Our economy needs their labor like we need oil from the ME.

Drilling without nonsensical restrictions and new non-petroleum technologies will eventually do away with our need for ME oil. If we start a guest worker program in Mexico or any other third world country we will be able to replace all we send back, and more with people who apply lawfully. If an employer has illegals he wants to keep, let him send them back to go through the process, like everyone else.

[mercy]

This ain't no hate site. No hate mongering goin on round here. Nooooooo.