Arnie to terminate health care benefitsn (YEAH! NO MORE FREE LUNCH LOSERS!)

San Francisco Examiner ^ | 12/19/03 | Alison Soltau

[Prime Choice]

You're the joke. Arnold is governor! Your guy lost.

You must work for a Union. You just told me something I already know and it's totally useless.

[onyx]

You must work for a Union. You just told me something I already know and it's totally useless.

Then you're either Kevin Curry or just stupid and rude.

[Prime Choice]

Then you're either Kevin Curry or just stupid and rude.

Who is Kevin Curry? ...and don't you know it's not polite to talk about yourself so much?

[onyx]

Hey Einstein, the post with which you took issue is to Kevin Curry.

[Prime Choice]

Gee, I thought it was to everyone, considering you posted it using such large letters.

So sod off, you incomprehensibly annoying twit.

[Lurker]

Ladies And Gentlemen,

I present to you the face of a monster:

"I'm not asking for charity, Medi-Cal isn't charity," she said."It's a right." Gladys Sandlin.

Ms. Sandlin thinks that she has a right to your money so she can spend it as she sees fit. Never mind what you think about it.

Please permit me to logically disect Ms. Sandlins position just a bit further.

If treatment under 'Medical' is indeed a fundamental right guaranteed to anyone who manages to dive across the California border, then God help the poor California taxpayer.

Ms. Sandlin would make of her fellow Citizens slaves, and she seems to be perfectly willing to allow the State Government to use force to accomplish her goals. That's the only way this 'right' can logically be 'excersized' after all.

Here's the scenario:

A person, whether or not they are legal US and California citizen is irrelavent, arrives at a place of business which employs physicians and demands service. However, our hypothetical person cannot pay for said service. He or she claims as a 'right' to a certain amount of the physicians time and expertise.

The physician in question is required by Law to render service. Refusing to do so can be punished by fines or ultimately imprisonment.

Further, the average Citizen of California is required by Law to pay for this physicians time during this entire maddeningly illogical excersize is a crime. Refusing to pay for this can be punished by fines and ultimately imprisonment.

Change the place of business from a physicians office to, oh let's say, an auto mechanic and the absurdity of it all becomes immediately apparent. Don't like the mechanic analogy? No problem, we'll change it to a dry cleaners then, or a barber, or a restaurant, or your local department store.

I may be wrong here, but I think we pretty much settled this whole issue about who can demand labor from another human being without paying them for it about 140 years ago or so. I'm pretty sure we passed a Constitutional Amendment against it.

Now, I don't have a dog in this whole McClintock v. Schwarneggar thing. Personally, I never saw a dimes worth of difference between 'em. No matter who was elected, fully 70% of Californias spending is mandated by Referendum and just about untouchable during the budget process.

What this article does magnificently illustrate is the mindset which led to the 'problem'. California, and indeed most of the United States, has been breeding monsters like Ms. Sandlin who think that somehow they actually own a piece of you, and by logical extension, me.

Realizing that this kind of thinking is epidemic in this country scares the shit out of me. It should do the same to all of you.

L

[putupon]

Thats allright young illegals, a little blanket amnesty here, a little socialised medicine there, DeeCee Jorge will take care of it.

[dennisw]

Illegal immigrants get bounced. Sounds good for me. America should not be a socialist gimme gimme gimme paradise for any kind of immigrant. Legal immigrants are scammin g our social services big time too. There should be a 5 or 10 year eligibility requirement for them too. You only get benefits when a citizen, not a stinking green card holder

[TheSpottedOwl]

A couple of years ago I would have thought this was great news. I came down with heart problems this year, and am on MediCal. When I finally broke down and went to a county health clinic, my resting pulse was 123. They put me on Prozac. I'm still on it, but my resting pulse is 89. My share of cost is 560 dollars. I don't believe in free lunches, but I still have kids at home. You can't be a good parent if you're sick.

[SandRat]

Can we get Arnold to come to Arizona for a working visit? To straighten Napie-Reno up.

[pollywog]

well said !! I agree........

[DugwayDuke]

While most posters are focusing on the "right" to health care, this simple statement is also important: "....with separate caps for citizen and undocumented children." One cannot enforce separate caps for undocumented children without requesting the documentation. This is probably the most far-reaching statement in the entire article.

[ampat]

Cut her six figure salary to five figures to pay for this "right", and she'll sing another tune. Arnold is doing the right thing. I hope he cuts 10% across the board. It's the only way to turn socialist California around, and force the illegals to go to Arizona instead.

[cynicom]

Ahnuld is going to explain to the socialists and their freeloaders what the word "NO" means. Carry on Arnold.

[lainde]

Day late and a dollar short answer: She gets somewhere in the low six figures.

[FierceDraka]

I just e-mailed Governor Schwarzenegger about this move, and it goes something like this:

Dear Governor Schwarzenegger,

Even though I live in Indiana, I have been watching your efforts to un-do the policies the Democrats enacted that have turned California into a fiscal basket case.

As a staunch fiscal Conservative, I applaud your move to terminate health care benefits for illegal aliens. No democracy has ever survived long after the electorate discovers that they can vote themselves bread and circuses, and removing the unproductive from the public trough is what needs to be done if we are to rescue this great nation from the waking nightmare that is socialism.

[Bikers4Bush]

"I'm not asking for charity, Medi-Cal isn't charity," she said."It's a right."


It is not a right, and it certainly is not a right for illegals.

[Brian Allen]

<< I think Arnold's ... approach to governing will be his approach he has maintained throughout his other ventures. >>

If it is -- and I am betting on it -- the world's Number One Bodybuilder and, measured by financial reward, Number One Entertainer will be the world's Number One Governor.

Whiners, pissers, moaners and bedwetters better beware!

[.38sw]

Women without legal immigrant standing will lose access to prenatal care, long-term care and treatment for breast and cervical cancer, health groups at a Mission district press conference said. This group is most vulnerable to the cuts, said Gladys Sandlin, executive director of the Mission Health Center. Many illegal women are working multiple jobs to keep their heads above water, she said, and would be most hit by the cuts.

"I'm not asking for charity, Medi-Cal isn't charity," she said."It's a right."

Oh, this one REALLY frosts me. "Women without legal immigrant status" crying about their "rights", and Medical is a "right". So people here ILLEGALLY have the RIGHT to pick our pockets for medical care? I guess this is what happens when you have leftists in charge for so long that perceptions of what someone's rights arebecome completely warped

[bonesmccoy]

BIG DITTOS.

Capping enrollment by Healthy Families is absurd public policy!