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Officials say al-Qaida operatives may be fully trained airline pilots
MSNBC.com ^ | 12/22/03 | NBC

Posted on 12/22/2003 7:36:58 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts

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If this is true, it is very bad.

Could we have been played like the proverbial 'fiddle'?

Imagine that 9/11 was Phase 1. They attack us with airliners that are taken over by passengers (terrorists) after take off.
As expected by Al Qaeda, we go with the first knee jerk response...we redesign and reinforce the cockpit doors.

Now comes Phase 2...trained airline pilots that are actually moles for Al Qaeda take the planes off course and because of the barricaded, reinforced doors, there isn't thing 1 we can do about it.

Except perhaps have the Air Force shoot down any such aircraft. Which in my estimation means the bad guys win either way.

In this type of scenario, if it is played properly, it would be too late for us to do anything or scramble any interceptors. Imagine such a pilot complaining of non-existent 'control surface problems'. How long do you wait to find out if it's on the up and up before fragging the plane?

1 posted on 12/22/2003 7:36:59 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Merry Christmas Everyone! That might not be Santa's sleigh in the sky coming at you in a few days.
2 posted on 12/22/2003 7:41:20 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (Rush 30th Anniversary Tour In May 2004...Be There)
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The irony is, they would be once again using our freedoms (and laws) against us. Would passengers know if a plane were off course? I'm assuming ATCs would know by their radars, and could then alert the gov't to scramble jets. Either way, this is actually a win-win scenario for AQ- they take out more innocents, no matter how few or many.
3 posted on 12/22/2003 7:41:30 PM PST by rintense
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
We predicted this scenario as soon as Mineta the Moron said "In reinforced doors we trust." Of course, we can't let our American pilots have guns---they might abuse them and shoot off their foot.
4 posted on 12/22/2003 7:41:59 PM PST by 07055
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If something like this happens we will drop our no-bias-against-Muslims stance so fast, they'll be wearing garters in Mecca.
5 posted on 12/22/2003 7:42:10 PM PST by thoughtomator (The United Nations is a terrorist organization)
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all foreign flights into the US from middle eastern airlines (and some others) should be halted, period. let them fly into canada and let the passengers connect there to come to the US.
6 posted on 12/22/2003 7:43:28 PM PST by oceanview
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If something like this happens we will drop our no-bias-against-Muslims stance so fast, they'll be wearing garters in Mecca.

Highly unlikely.

7 posted on 12/22/2003 7:43:43 PM PST by Metternich
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Man this is Clancey type stuff and it sucks.

Who do we nuke if it happens?
8 posted on 12/22/2003 7:43:53 PM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (No I don't watch rasslin'?)
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To: Metternich
A guy can dream can't he?
9 posted on 12/22/2003 7:44:18 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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Not liking reference to "rural area" in east as potential target. Very odd when mixed with reference to large crowd concentrations. Other than a college football stadium (seasons now over), where do you find large crowds in rural areas in the east in the middle of winter?
10 posted on 12/22/2003 7:44:34 PM PST by LikeLight ( ___________________________________ it's a line)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
we already saw this happen with that Egypt Air flight, except he only crashed the plane into the sea rather then into a building.
11 posted on 12/22/2003 7:44:38 PM PST by oceanview
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Hmmm al-Qaida? Moslems? Pilots? Moslem Pilots.
ban Moslem Pilots? Watch them?
Oh not PC. Smart but not PC.
Solution: :"Round up the usual suspects"
Search those Nuns , Kids. Check out that wheelchair.
12 posted on 12/22/2003 7:44:46 PM PST by TAP ONLINE (Not a hater, just smart enough to know when I saw evil..)
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Pull our troops out of the Middle East, and turn it into a parking lot.

Pave..then repeat.
13 posted on 12/22/2003 7:45:17 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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Don't forget that Egyptian pilot who deliberately took a whole planeload of people to their deaths on an Egypt Air flight a cuple of years ago. (Was it before 9-11?) He was praying to Allah all the way down.
14 posted on 12/22/2003 7:45:37 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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Real pilots flying foreign planes on terrorist missions to the US would be diabolical indeed. Hard to believe muslims so fanatical as to train as pilots only to be suicide bombers. Or would they be recruited from within muslim pilots?
15 posted on 12/22/2003 7:46:04 PM PST by luvbach1
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Another likely scenario is a few female suicide bombers in a populated area--Rockefeller Center/Fifth Ave/St.Patrick's Cathedral.
16 posted on 12/22/2003 7:46:14 PM PST by jolie560
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To: oceanview
all foreign flights into the US from middle eastern airlines (and some others) should be halted, period. let them fly into canada and let the passengers connect there to come to the US.

You know that is something El Al would do....in a heartbeat.

17 posted on 12/22/2003 7:46:25 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Have YOU been spanked by Sarcasto-tron today?)
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To: Palladin
The key word here being DOWN. He went down. But he didn't find Allah. And he didn't find 72 virgins either.
18 posted on 12/22/2003 7:46:41 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You know how those liberals are. Two's Company but three is a fundraiser.)
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To: thoughtomator
How about not letting muslim piolots not born in the US fly in the US.
19 posted on 12/22/2003 7:46:51 PM PST by Revel
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where do you find large crowds in rural areas in the east in the middle of winter?

Gillette Stadium. Foxboro, Mass. This coming Sunday.

20 posted on 12/22/2003 7:47:47 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Have YOU been spanked by Sarcasto-tron today?)
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