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Dornan to make drugs an issue
OC Register ^ | December 22, 2003 | MARTIN WISCKOL

Posted on 12/22/2003 3:22:02 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:06:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Bob Dornan thinks he's found Rep. Dana Rohrabacher's Achilles' heel, the issue that will be the Huntington Beach incumbent's downfall when the March Republican primary rolls around.

Drugs.

In his challenge to Rohrabacher, Dornan has quickly made the subject an issue, focusing on his opponent's drug use as a young man and his support for legalizing medicinal marijuana.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; addiction; dornan; electionushouse; marijuana; rohrabacher; wodlist
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To: Dahlseide; Dane
Aren't you only referring to medical use - but of course not as I doubt you refer to medical use as fun

I was making fun of Dornan and his campaign volunteer, Yvonne Wachter's statements concerning Rohrabacher's co-authorship of a medicinal marijuana bill.

Rohrabacher says it's to ease suffering and they say it's because he's a reefer advocate. To coin a phrase popular with a certain contingent of FReepers, a doper.

I quote:

"I do believe that marijuana is a threat and is harmful," Rohrabacher said. "But that doesn't mean that if someone is sick and it will help their appetite, we should arrest them. I'm not for changing federal laws, but if the states want it, they should be allowed to proceed."

Rohrabacher is also critical of some drug laws that result in users being imprisoned, saying intervention – and even mandatory drug testing for high school students – would be better. However, he said he is not advocating changing any drug laws. Dornan, 70, questions the motive behind Rohrabacher's medicinal-marijuana bill.

"This is all a bogus smokescreen for the legalization of recreational use of mind-altering chemical substances," Dornan said. "Anybody's who's ill is told, 'We can give a THC (marijuana's active ingredient) substance to you, a legal pill or patch.'"

Wachter goes on to say:

"He's an advocate for reefer," said Wachter, a Dornan campaign volunteer. "When you give states' rights on this, you give growers a free pass. We'll have fields of reefer."

So, to me, Mencken's quote perfectly describes Dornan and his supporters description as the stereotypical puritans, not Puritans. The accuracy of any such sterotyping notwithstanding.

61 posted on 12/22/2003 7:04:27 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
There is only one way to stop B-1 Bob, by whom I have been pleasantly bemused for years, as long as he wasn't MY congressman.

In a debate on any subject, use the key phrase "30-06." B-1 Bob will launch himself into a dissertation on the ballistics of the round, the story of the '03 Springfield, the development of the M1 Garand, and marksmanship. As soon as he is out of breath, (O, say 2-6 hours later) say the words, "Spitfire and Me-109." B-1 will launch into a series of monologues that would shame the History Channel, including quotes from Winston Churchill, Hermann Goering, and probably Eva Braun. When he is through, (say a-day-and-a-half later), he will sing 'Lili Marlene.'

This man is so mind-numbingly boring, that when a Polish girl pretending to be a Mexican cheated him out of his seat, nobody cared. They were relieved! Ya gotta love this guy. (During the campaign, in which Loretta mobilized dead, incarcerated, and never-existent illegal aliens, when someone pointed out that Loretta was Polish, and not Mexican, Bob launched into an incredibly informative lecture on Polish cavalry tactics as applied against the Wermacht) He is like every know-it-all in every bar from here to Alameda.

Love-ya Bob. You're over.

62 posted on 12/22/2003 7:24:09 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Dog Gone
We entrust them with murder, for pete's sake.

Oh, really? I guess we have to ignore the Feds predilection to prosecute any one who beats a murder rap under the civil rights statute

63 posted on 12/22/2003 7:58:10 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
'Bye, Bob. The wind is blowing over thataway and the tide is out. Running a 1980s anti-pot campaign won't cut it today.
64 posted on 12/22/2003 9:28:53 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
65 posted on 12/23/2003 8:36:54 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"You just can't make up this type of stuff."

Nope. Sure can't.

"Rosenthal, 58, is now facing charges of cultivating more than 100 marijuana plants at a San Francisco medical marijuana club, conspiracy to grow more than 1,000 marijuana, and maintaining a place to grow marijuana at an Oakland warehouse. The warehouse reportedly contained several thousand tiny starter plants that Rosenthal says were intended for distribution to medical marijuana patients who want to grow their own cannabis."
--alternet.org

Wanna bet it wouldn't be "fields of reefer" if Rosenthal had his way?

66 posted on 12/23/2003 8:50:30 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Wanna bet it wouldn't be "fields of reefer" if Rosenthal had his way?

So what? Who (besides DEA JBTs and the WOD cheerleaders on FR) cares?

67 posted on 12/23/2003 9:04:49 AM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: robertpaulsen
Wanna bet it wouldn't be "fields of reefer" if Rosenthal had his way?

Guess what? The voters of the State of California authorized him to do this when they passed Prop 215.

Do you have a problem when a majority of voters pass laws in their own state, Mr. Federalist?

Do federal laws trump state laws, Mr. I-Don't-Know-or-Care-About-The-10th-Amendment?

68 posted on 12/23/2003 9:13:14 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: bassmaner
"So what?"

Well, your buddy, Ol' Dan Tucker, scoffed at the notion.

So what is it guys?

69 posted on 12/23/2003 9:15:30 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: bassmaner
So what? Who (besides DEA JBTs and the WOD cheerleaders on FR) cares?

They need to ban dancing too close, too.

70 posted on 12/23/2003 9:20:59 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"Do you have a problem when a majority of voters pass laws in their own state, Mr. Federalist? "

Not if they're constitutional laws. Do you support voters in a state passing unconstitutional laws, Mr. Anarchy?

"Do federal laws trump state laws, Mr. I-Don't-Know-or-Care-About-The-10th-Amendment?

Every time. It's called the Supremacy Clause, found in Article VI of the U.S. Constitution.

71 posted on 12/23/2003 9:21:17 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Not if they're constitutional laws. Do you support voters in a state passing unconstitutional laws, Mr. Anarchy?

Please point to the area of the constitution that says that all laws passed by the voters in a state are unconstitutional.

Please point to the area of the constitution that specifically bans the use of marijuana for any purpose, medical or otherwise.

Please point to the court decisions that say that all medical marijuana laws are unconstitutional and as such are null and void. IN EVERY STATE THAT HAS PASSED SUCH LAWS.

Every time. It's called the Supremacy Clause, found in Article VI of the U.S. Constitution.

I see.

Then what is the point of including the 9th and 10th Amendments into the constitution if Article VI says that the federal government is the supreme law of the land?

Getting back to the topic of this thread, who do you support, Dopey Dornan or Doper Dana?

72 posted on 12/23/2003 9:44:58 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"Anybody who wants to legalize marijuana or any other illegal substance is the enemy of this country,"

There goes B-1 Bob again, makin' friends.

73 posted on 12/23/2003 9:45:07 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: robertpaulsen
So what is it guys?

I give up.

What is it?

74 posted on 12/23/2003 9:46:31 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
What's next? Charges of corrupting the youth with that wicked rock and roll music?

White women will undoubtedly be raped by negro jazz musicians, that's what.

75 posted on 12/23/2003 9:46:34 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
There goes B-1 Bob again, makin' friends.

And influencing people.

I don't think the result will be what he is after...

76 posted on 12/23/2003 9:54:30 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; bassmaner
Well, you had yourself a real big laugh at the statement, "We'll have fields of reefer."

Still laughin' at that statement, or does it have the ring of truth in it?

bassmaner doesn't see anything laughable. As a matter of fact, he says, "So what?" He believes it.

77 posted on 12/23/2003 10:00:18 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"Please point to the area of the constitution that says that all laws passed by the voters in a state are unconstitutional."

What are you talking about? Proposition 215 is only valid at the state level. In no way does it change federal law, which prevails over state law.

The Controlled Substances Act of 1970 specifically bans the use of marijuana for any purpose, medical or otherwise. The CSA has been upheld by the courts as constitutional.

If a state law conflicts with federal law, federal law prevails. Period.

"Then what is the point of including the 9th and 10th Amendments into the constitution if Article VI says that the federal government is the supreme law of the land?"

The states may write all the constitutional laws they wish. All of these laws are valid, as long as they don't conflict with federal law.

And feel free to support whomever. I don't live there.

78 posted on 12/23/2003 10:15:36 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
And feel free to support whomever. I don't live there.

Any opinions on the original topic or did you just stop by to argue (some more) about the WOD?

79 posted on 12/23/2003 10:26:13 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"Any opinions on the original topic ...?"

This is a local story. Dornan is looking for an issue to run on. He thinks it's drugs. Good luck.

I was more interested in addressing the broader issues brought up by the posters rather than, "Is the drug issue the right one for Bob Dornan?" Yawn.

80 posted on 12/23/2003 10:34:44 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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