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To: mrustow
"Black neighborhoods are now increasingly patrolled by black police officers who flunked the department hiring AND psychological exams, who are in fundamental sympathy with black criminals, and who are members of racially segregated, urban counter-police organizations, such as the Black Sentinels in Cincinnati and 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement Who Care in New York."

I stopped reading here. Statistics? Not very well done.

12 posted on 12/22/2003 9:26:00 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: jjm2111
I think that quote is one of Mr. Stix's "issues" coming to the fore in lieu of actual fact.
16 posted on 12/22/2003 9:27:51 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: jjm2111
Cute post on your part. The writer has devoted reams of articles to the issues discussed in that paragraph, articles that have been posted on FR. Satisfying your vanity would require not a 3,000-word, but a 30,000-word article, which you also would have complained about, and refused to read. As for the statements about blacks failing the department tests, do you really think PDs keep official stats on "Black candidates who flunked our department aptitude and psychological exams, but who we hired anyway," or are you just blowing smoke?

As I said, if you're serious, you'll read the author's other 30,000 words on the topic for which you demand further information.

17 posted on 12/22/2003 9:32:22 AM PST by mrustow
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To: jjm2111
Note that: 1. Mauer has not revised his numbers since 1995 (All figures I was able to find on the subject merely repeated Mauer, who in 1990 reported that one in four black men from the cited age group were convicts. If his 1995 figures are correct, the percentage of black, 20-29 year-old convicts rose 30% in five years, which is as hard to believe as some of the statistics produced by urban police departments since 1995, showing miraculous declines in violent crime); 2. His figures, if correct, mean that 32.2% of all black men 20-29 years of age are CONVICTS (advocates often misrepresent parolees and probationers as “ex-convicts.” Only when convicts have completed their parole or probation, do they become ex-cons. It is because one is still a convict, that a violation of parole or probation can result in one´s having to finish one´s sentence in prison.); 3. The rate of black convicts cannot be reduced to poverty, since it is 33% higher than the current black poverty rate of 24.1%. Middle class black men are increasingly imitating street toughs from the projects; and most importantly, 4. Mauer speaks of black convicts as victims, rather than as perpetrators, as if they had suddenly been “hit” by crimes, as if by falling bricks from a building. Hence, when he notes that the white and Hispanic rates of 20-29-year-old convicts were only 4% and 16%, respectively, he suggested the other groups – particularly white men — were tremendously lucky.

The guy kills himself explaining the vagaries of statistics that are frequently used, where such statistics even EXIST, so you go and isolate a paragraph where he discusses issues for which no such statistics exist, and beat him over the head with that? Is that the best you can do? You guys are pathetic hypocrites. You're as lazy as the day is long, yet you demand the impossible of the author. No matter what the writer did, you would come up with some lazy man line, in lieu of honest criticism.

"Hey, he didn't tell the history of black crime, starting with Creation!"

23 posted on 12/22/2003 9:40:42 AM PST by mrustow
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