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For More People in 20's and 30's, Home Is Where the Parents Are
The New York Times ^ | December 22, 2003 | TAMAR LEWIN

Posted on 12/22/2003 1:35:37 AM PST by sarcasm

On the job, James Navarro seems to be a model of mature adulthood. At 30, he is an appellate court lawyer in Brooklyn, working 50 hours a week on research to help judges decide cases.

But look at the rest of his life, and the picture becomes murkier.

Mr. Navarro lives with his parents in Queens. His mother packs lunch for him a few times a week. His bedroom still has his high school baseball trophies and a giant stuffed bunny that was a present from a former girlfriend. On weekends, he plays touch football and goes drinking and clubbing with his two best friends — both about his age, fully employed and living with their parents, too.

"When I was in college, I thought I'd be married by 24 and have a house and kids by 30," Mr. Navarro said. "Now I think the idea of being an emotionally developed male by 24 is ridiculous. I want to get married and have kids someday. But I don't feel any pressure that it has to be soon."

Mr. Navarro is no loser: he is funny, good-looking, charming — and typical of his generation's slowed-down approach to adulthood. To some extent, the data tells the story. Nearly all the traditional markers of adulthood, including marrying, getting a college degree and moving out of the family home, are occurring later than they did a generation ago.

The shape of life for those between 18 and 34 has changed so profoundly that many social scientists now think of those years as a new life stage, "transitional adulthood" — just as, a century ago, they recognized adolescence as a life stage separating childhood from adulthood.

"There used to be a societal expectation that people in their early 20's would have finished their schooling, set up a household, gotten married and started their careers," said Frank F. Furstenberg Jr., a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania. "But now that's the exception rather than the norm. Ask most people in their 20's whether they're adults and you get a nervous laugh. They're not sure."

Sociologists say there are several indicators of this state of mind. Nationwide, the median age of first marriage, which hovered around 21 for women and 23 for men from the 1940's to the 1970's, has risen steadily since to 25 for women and 27 for men.

Education takes longer. Only about a third of those who go straight from high school to four-year residential colleges graduate four years later. With so many young people taking time out to make money or change direction, most education experts now use six-year graduation rates as their benchmarks.

Perhaps the most striking change, though, has been in the proportion of young adults nationwide who live with their parents. To be sure, the numbers remain small — about 14 percent. Nonetheless, between 1970 and 2000, the most recent census, the percentage of 24- to 34-year-olds living with parents or grandparents increased by 50 percent. During the boom years of the 90's, the trend reversed slightly among those in their 20's but held steady among those in their 30's.

The Census Bureau's Current Population Survey shows that the numbers are on the rise again. The trend is most visible in New York — 30 percent of the New York-Northeastern New Jersey area's 22- to 31-year-olds live with their parents — followed by Los Angeles and other large, expensive cities.

The changes raise many policy concerns, chief among them that most American institutions are still built around the idea that people in their 20's are fully autonomous. Young adults coming out of the foster care system, or the juvenile justice system, get no continuing support. Health insurance cuts off, even for 20-somethings in affluent families.

Then, too, the longer transition to adulthood has striking implications for parenthood.

"Parenting used to be thought of as a life stage of about 18 years," said Robert Schoeni, a professor at the University of Michigan who works at its Institute for Social Research. "If it means continuing support for 30 or even 34 years, that's not always comfortable for parents who were raised under very different conditions and were expected to be on their own much earlier."

In part, Professor Furstenberg and others say, the longer transition to adulthood reflects an economy in which most jobs that pay enough to support middle-class life require years of advanced education. For most young people, that means years of semiautonomy, in which they piece together loans, part-time jobs and whatever money their families can provide. Many spend their 20's and early 30's shuttling between college and work, professional school and travel, community service and internships, never earning enough to settle down, marry and raise a child.

Nancy Dye, president of Oberlin College, said that whereas most graduates used to go straight on to graduate school, having chosen at least a preliminary career path, many now stick around, uncertain of their direction. A few years ago, she said, "students came up with a new term, F.T.L. — failure to launch."

In interviews with dozens of 20-somethings, most say they share a sense that there is no right time to have completed their education, lived on their own or gotten married, that such fixed expectations have no place in their lives. And many see it as beneficial to step slowly and gradually into adult life.

"I think it's great, and really important, to take time to date and travel and hang out with your friends," said Elisabeth Levy, 28, a catering sales manager at a private club in Midtown Manhattan. "This way, when you do finally settle down, you're really ready, and you don't wake up at 33, married with two kids and a house, and trapped, like `How did this happen?' and `What did I do with my life?' "

Those living at home, even if employed in good jobs, often describe their arrangements as sensible and mature, in that instead of throwing away money on rent, they are saving money toward their future. And if, meanwhile, they are back in their childhood bedrooms, working at low-paying jobs to save enough to continue their educations or buy homes, they say, that is no tragedy.

For many, the 20's are a floating, flexible, exploratory time.

"For the last few years, my life has been so up in the air," said Jennie Schneier, 24, who works part time in public radio. "Several of my friends have started applying to grad schools. One is applying to three different types of grad school — law, business and photography — to see where she'll get in.

"I find grad school appealing, too, because I like the idea of settling into something. But I don't have any idea what to study."

Ms. Schneier, who has lived with her parents for three years, recently moved from an unpaid internship to a job where she is paid one day a week. "Sometimes I think it's ridiculous that I'm about to turn 25 and can't support myself," she said. "I've regressed a little since I've been back with my parents: If I'm home by 6:30, there's dinner on the table. And my dad does the laundry."

The Research Network on Adult Transitions, a team of social scientists directed by Professor Furstenberg and financed by the MacArthur Foundation, has for years been gathering data on 18- to 34-year-olds: when they reach the traditional markers (later, throughout the Western world), what they think constitutes adulthood (self-sufficiency, a full-time job and an independent household, but not necessarily marriage or children), when they feel most adult (at work), how much support they get from their parents (on average, $38,000, or $2,200 a year from 18 to 34).

The return to the nest of children in their 20's and 30's can be a jolt for parents. Several parents with newly returned children, who would not be quoted by name for fear of hurting their children's feelings, agreed that despite the pleasures of having their offspring close at hand, their return had been stressful and, in some cases, disruptive of their plans to sell a large home, retire or move.

Suddenly, they say, everything is up for grabs: Who will be home for dinner? Who will cook dinner? If a parent is wakened at 2 a.m. by the smell of cooking, and rises in the morning to find no milk for breakfast, dirty dishes in the sink and a house full of sleeping 20-somethings, what is the right response?

Many parents face not one departure and one return, but a revolving door, as one after another of their offspring leaves for college, returns, leaves for graduate school, returns, moves for a job and returns again.

At the Navarro household, in Maspeth, Queens, all four grown children are back home: James; his two brothers, 27 and 25; and their sister, 23.

"Michael, the 27-year-old, talks about moving out, but he never does it," James Navarro said. "It doesn't make me feel too much like a kid to live there. As I've gotten older, I appreciate my parents more."

Still, it is not the life Mr. Navarro envisioned. In high school, he was a star athlete, good enough, he thought, for a professional baseball career. To that end, he chose St. Thomas University in Miami. But his baseball dreams did not pan out, so after graduating he returned home and spent two years working as a security officer in Midtown Manhattan.

"I knew I wouldn't be doing that too long, but I didn't know what I would do," he said, describing a state of mind that seems to descend on many of his generation as they leave college. "I thought about teaching, social work, working for a nonprofit, but law school seemed the most challenging."

Most of Mr. Navarro's closest friends remain unmarried, he said, and not quite ready, at least financially, to set up households.

"I've only been to one wedding in the last three years, and that was because a girl I know wanted me to go as her date," he said.

But one of his best friends is in a relationship that has become increasingly serious. And hanging over their lunchtime banter is the first tinge of awareness that they may be getting a bit old for the lives they lead.

"On New Year's Eve, sometimes, we have these motivational talks," Mr. Navarro said. "We'll say, we're getting older, we can't go to these places with teeny-boppers anymore."

They laugh and begin talking about the weekend football team. They are asked about the age range of the other players.

Mr. Navarro gets a look of mock alarm: "Who's the oldest? Oh, no, is it me?"


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To: Rays_Dad
You are lucky to find a woman both wise and committed.
61 posted on 12/22/2003 7:01:55 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Dosa26
If any of my kids grow up to be liberals, they wouldn't be welcome to stop with us for long :-).
62 posted on 12/22/2003 7:02:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (My baby is 2 today!)
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To: sarcasm
I loved my parents more than anything, but as soon as I could afford to, I moved out and enjoyed life on my terms. There's a certain pride in knowing that you're taking care of yourself, at least for some people, that is.

This mindset makes absolutely no sense to me.

63 posted on 12/22/2003 7:02:26 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: sarcasm
Mr. Navarro is no loser

I quit reading right after this line. Trust me... he's a loser.
64 posted on 12/22/2003 7:08:39 AM PST by Daus
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To: sarcasm
Mr. Navarro is no loser...

Hee hee hee hee...

65 posted on 12/22/2003 7:13:22 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sarcasm
There is so much wrong with these people.

"This way, when you do finally settle down, you're really ready, and you don't wake up at 33, married with two kids and a house, and trapped, like `How did this happen?' and `What did I do with my life?' "

This one wants to wake up at 53 with these questions ???

What if she doesn't live to see her kids reach 18 ???

66 posted on 12/22/2003 7:17:49 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
I lived with my mother in her house until she died last year when I was 38, for several reasons. In the beginning she was somewhat disabled, a condition that later turned into debilitating congestive heart failure. She could not support herself financially, and in later years couldn't care for herself much at all. During that time I was always employed full time, and in later years became VP of Software Development for a leading investment management firm, a position I still hold today. I spent zero time partying with friends, dating (I'm still not married), traveling or living a self-indulgent lifestyle - between working long hours and taking care of my mother, there wasn't much time to be a loser.

But hey, don't let my story interrupt all the sweeping generalizations. I know they are a lot of fun.

67 posted on 12/22/2003 7:26:55 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
This one wants to wake up at 53 with these questions

LOL. And he-she will. You see them all around you, first child at age, say, 39.

68 posted on 12/22/2003 7:30:53 AM PST by riri
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Completely different scenario.
69 posted on 12/22/2003 7:31:32 AM PST by riri
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To: sarcasm
Mr. Navarro is no loser

Really?

70 posted on 12/22/2003 7:33:29 AM PST by cruiserman
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To: Gritty
Well...I too started working at age 12. We were never given an allowance as kids; my parents thought that all family members should be expected to help out without expecting to be rewarded. I worked all through college and moved away after graduation. I came home two years later after I was offered a job in my hometown. I lived in my parent's house for about a year, while saving money for a down payment on a house. I cooked, cleaned, did most of the laundry and really got to know my parents as people. My sister moved back while she got her master's. What is the point of paying rent using student loans if you can save that money? If you look back, it is really only in the last 75 years or so that most people have left the nest for good at 18. Young people used to live with their parents until they were married. I think it is a great thing if it is used as an opportunity to spring forward, not as a crutch for people who don't want to grow up.
71 posted on 12/22/2003 7:33:55 AM PST by immykidsmom
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I lived with my mother in her house until she died last year when I was 38, for several reasons. In the beginning she was somewhat disabled, a condition that later turned into debilitating congestive heart failure. She could not support herself financially, and in later years couldn't care for herself much at all. During that time I was always employed full time, and in later years became VP of Software Development for a leading investment management firm, a position I still hold today. I spent zero time partying with friends, dating (I'm still not married), traveling or living a self-indulgent lifestyle - between working long hours and taking care of my mother, there wasn't much time to be a loser.

But hey, don't let my story interrupt all the sweeping generalizations. I know they are a lot of fun.

I did that for both of my parents, they were divorced and each had poor health. Since I was the only single daughter the rest of the family more or less put the responsibility on my shoulders. With my mother, for a year she had to travel 400 miles three times a week for physical therapy and I did it. I was 24 at the time. I willingly moved back home and cared for her because it was the right thing for me to do. After she died I moved to Hawaii for a few years to work and had the time of my life then.

I then wanted to finish college and I did move in with my grandmother because she lived one mile from school and did not want to move into a nursing home. I worked while in school, I was there to make sure she turned off the gas and did her errands for her and gave her that one wish to stay in her home until she died.

Then my father became disabled after being hit by a drunk driver and there weren't enough nursing home facilities willing to put up with his behaviors in the state ;) I eventually had to move in with him because of several choking events and his mental state. I will tell you right now that was the most difficult job I could have ever worked. Yes I could have put him in a nursing home, but as a christian and a conservative I believe that families should take care of their own. I had been estranged from my father for years but there was a bible verse that kept coming back to me and that was "Children honor your parents." He was able to make peace with all of his children before he died in April of this year.

For me it was the right thing to do and it did pay off in a way because my siblings gave me my father's house and I started up my own business providing non medical home care for the elderly and am doing quite well.

72 posted on 12/22/2003 7:47:04 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: Lazamataz
If I ever have a kid, if he's not building his own log cabin by the age of 12, I'm shooting him.

And he damned well better know the difference between a Zygote and a Gamete!

73 posted on 12/22/2003 7:51:47 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: sarcasm
I joined the service when I was 17, and my daughter wanted to leave when she was three - must be in the genes...
74 posted on 12/22/2003 7:59:42 AM PST by 11th_VA (If you can read this IN ENGLISH - Thank a Veteran !!!)
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To: SaucyCranberry
I especially take exception at the comment by the twenty-eight-year-old Ms. Levy. As I am 33, married (12 years) have two children and the only time I feel trapped is when I have to watch live events on CNN Intl' and pray they don't open their mouths.

And I am 33, never married, with no kids, and I definately wish that I was married and had the kids. The only problem is that the vast majority of the young women today are just like Ms. Levy...

(Case in point: My brother had his fiancee of two years break up with him about six months before the planned wedding. He treated her like a queen, but she made up her mind and dumped him in the course of a weekend. No discussion, no warning, nothing. The reason? She didn't feel like she had "lived enough" yet to get married. It devestated him, but by now we both know he is much better off without such a shallow, confused b***h...)

75 posted on 12/22/2003 8:12:32 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (All in all, I'd rather just have the rib back...)
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To: Iris7
A consolation might be that Harry Truman lived at Bess's parents home when he was 33, so its not too late for anyone.
76 posted on 12/22/2003 8:18:37 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: KC_Conspirator
A consolation might be that Harry Truman lived at Bess's parents home when he was 33, so its not too late for anyone

am I wrong to assume it was a sprawling estate of some sort and not a 2,500 square foot box on a 70,000 square foot lot?

77 posted on 12/22/2003 8:20:20 AM PST by riri
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To: sarcasm
In our family, the kids are given a lovely set of matched luggage for their 18th birthdays.
78 posted on 12/22/2003 8:21:51 AM PST by T Minus Four
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To: Cronos
I didn't see any mention of these young boarders paying rent. When I got a full time job after college, my parents discussed with me the necessity of paying rent (in addition to the chores that I had been doing.) That seemed reasonable to me, and we had that arrangement till I found my own apartment a few years later.
79 posted on 12/22/2003 8:33:40 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Gritty
3. It is difficult to support oneself and a family nowadays on a "normal" job. Because "everybody" works, it often takes two incomes to comfortably support two people. Thirty-five years ago, many more jobs were capable of supporting a family. Not today.

Contrary to popular belief, no one promised them a rose garden. We're a one income family and Mr. M has a "normal" job. Actually, he's a state employee so is making below "normal" income. We're managing. It's in the prioritizing - long work hours vs. family life and knowing your kids.

80 posted on 12/22/2003 8:54:00 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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